convince me of buying an rx8
08-29-2005, 08:24 PM
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whats wrong with the WRX? there are lots of fast WRX's out there that are not STi's. hell at least i get a factory turbo with the car and AWD! i did a turboxs stage 2 and im already up to 230hp to the wheels. im working on getting an aftermarket turbo and i will be bumped up to 260-280hp to the wheels. there is nothing stupid about buying a WRX. at least the WRX can be an all season wonder instead of a 1 season wonder :o
i have nothing against the RX-8 when i owned it but it wasnt my taste. never letting the wife pick an AT car again. took all the fun away.
i have nothing against the RX-8 when i owned it but it wasnt my taste. never letting the wife pick an AT car again. took all the fun away.
08-29-2005, 09:03 PM
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hmm. after owning two mazda's (supercharged miata and protege 5), mazda makes a great vehicle, but as i remember, the RX-8 in the 6 speed version with the full options is roughly $30-35k ..correct? why are you looking at a $25000 WRX to compete. The STI is more in the price bracket that the RX-8 is in. I have to admit, the RX-8 has great looks and a decent interior and if that is all you are looking for, then go with the RX-8. The WRX and STI is all about the driver. It is hard to get out of either without smiling. the more the car breaks in, the faster it is. with 3000 miles, it should be broke in. if you can, drive a friend's WRX or drive a used one with under 20k on it.
i work for a group of dealers and was going to purchase an RX-8 but after driving one, i was very disappointed in the performance.
the 2006 WRX does have the 2.5L in it with 230 hp and lag should be much less than previous years (mine is a 2005). I am not stock anymore, but even loved it in the stock form.
I dont think you can go bad either way, but from a driver's point of view and if you are one that likes to drive rather than stand by your car waiting for compliments, i would go with the WRX. they are very comfortable on long trips, have great performance out in stock form, let along with a few minor upgrades.
The STI on the other hand, is a force unlike anything you will find for under $35k (except the competition EVO which is very similar in performance)
i work for a group of dealers and was going to purchase an RX-8 but after driving one, i was very disappointed in the performance.
the 2006 WRX does have the 2.5L in it with 230 hp and lag should be much less than previous years (mine is a 2005). I am not stock anymore, but even loved it in the stock form.
I dont think you can go bad either way, but from a driver's point of view and if you are one that likes to drive rather than stand by your car waiting for compliments, i would go with the WRX. they are very comfortable on long trips, have great performance out in stock form, let along with a few minor upgrades.
The STI on the other hand, is a force unlike anything you will find for under $35k (except the competition EVO which is very similar in performance)
08-29-2005, 10:41 PM
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The wrx is indeed a great car, the new engine (from what i hear is underrated) should make it perform even better then previous years, seeing as though the forrester XT can pull a 13.8-14.0 1/4 in stock form, there is no reason the 06 wrx now with the same engine wont top that. Will be quite a bit faster then an rx8, but on the other hand the rx8 is prob more comfortable, refined, and better/more unique looking....
good luck with your desicion
BTW nice looking red wrx^
good luck with your desicion
BTW nice looking red wrx^
08-29-2005, 11:36 PM
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My advice for you is to find some info on your local Mazda service centers before you buy. As long as they will take care of you without major hassels there is absolutly no reason I can think of not to buy an 8. I love mine, just not a big fan of my service center anymore
08-30-2005, 12:07 PM
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Oh look, a new troll spreading misleading information...
Originally Posted by mazdaturnedsubaru
...the RX-8 in the 6 speed version with the full options is roughly $30-35k ..correct? why are you looking at a $25000 WRX to compete. The STI is more in the price bracket that the RX-8 is in.
Originally Posted by mazdaturnedsubaru
I have to admit, the RX-8 has great looks and a decent interior and if that is all you are looking for, then go with the RX-8. The WRX and STI is all about the driver.
My WRX was fun, but I traded it in for the RX8 precisely because I wanted a car that was more about the driver. Throwing the 2.5L in the 2006 WRX will most certainly reduce its lag and improve its throttle response. But its inferior road feel, steering feedback, shifter, brakes, and balance wont be helped by increased engine displacement.
08-30-2005, 12:18 PM
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in the real world, the RX8 and WRX are gonna get pretty similar milage.
The AC seems to vary from car to car (like a lot of things with the RX8) i personal have no problems with cold air from my '05.
Check the oil every fill-up or every other fill-up and add a little when it needs it (only about a 5 minute investment of time every few weeks)
Let the car warm-up before you flog it around (something you should do for any car)
There are lots of shops all over that are not mazda dealers that work on the rotary. Plus there isnt that much that can go wrong that would require a mechanic that knows a lot about the rotary....most of the time you will have problems with parts that are on every car (trany, suspension...ect.)
The AC seems to vary from car to car (like a lot of things with the RX8) i personal have no problems with cold air from my '05.
Check the oil every fill-up or every other fill-up and add a little when it needs it (only about a 5 minute investment of time every few weeks)
Let the car warm-up before you flog it around (something you should do for any car)
There are lots of shops all over that are not mazda dealers that work on the rotary. Plus there isnt that much that can go wrong that would require a mechanic that knows a lot about the rotary....most of the time you will have problems with parts that are on every car (trany, suspension...ect.)
08-30-2005, 01:21 PM
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Go with an 05 WRX/STI if you can find one because the 06 looks like ****. If you want more bang for your buck mod wise, the RX8 can't compare. Sure, it might look unique, but if a ***** looks good to you, then by all means....
08-30-2005, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shakRpahX8
If you're trying to choose between Rx8 and wrx
you are stupid if you go with wrx
if it's Sti, it would be a different story though..
you are stupid if you go with wrx
if it's Sti, it would be a different story though..
08-30-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by myWRXisFaster
You RX-8 guys are soooooo petty. If you want something that looks "abstract" get the RX-8.
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08-30-2005, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8===DEnvy
You must be smart because a STI is a WRX.....
Same platform, totaly diffent car, better drive-train, better suspension, Better brakes, better wheels/tires, better aero-package, better seats...ect ect.
Yes they are both the 'same' car but the STI is a true AWD sports sedean, where the WRX is a 'sporty-sedan', its the difference bettween a Mustang GT and a Cobra SVT.
as for the other comment "but if a ***** looks good to you, then by all means...." i dont see the RX8 looking like a *****....but maby there is something wrong with my ****. :D
As far as gas miliage. In the real world youll find they both get around 18mpg doing the same things (driving around town, daily commute, ect.) 'flat' engines are know for getting less than stellar miliage, and its turbo....so depending on how much time you spend in boost...well you know. :p
Also the RX8 is a lighter car I belive (not sure exactly how much the differnece is) but its easy to make more power on any car given enough cash, and its easy to increase the grip....its also easy to improve the handling....but when it comes to shaving weight off....its much harder to do and keep all the creature comforts.
08-30-2005, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by soggy8noodles
The WRX has too much oversteer.
Watch out for that tree.
Watch out for that tree.
when I drive ANYTHING AWD, all i get its buckets of understeer, unless I REALLY flog it into the corners at hot speeds.
08-30-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rx8===DEnvy
The WRX and STI both understeer and the EVO handles way better. Forget the WRX/STI and go w/ the EVO.
I'd suggest that you drive both cars, look at both cars, consider the price and other aspects of both cars, and buy the one _you_ like better, not the one most folks on the RX-8 forum like better.
08-30-2005, 01:59 PM
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Just to let eveyone know Subaru are setup from the factory to understeer becasue from the safety point of view it is easier to control it then oversteer. Now the psi pressures are 32 front and 29 in the back, just change that to 32/36 and your understeer is practically gone, add a 125 dollar rear sway bar and you're into oversteering heaven. Also the stock rubber of the WRX is the worst that you could have, change that to some sticky rubber and you have a car that handles like its on rails. I should know I drive a WRX, I have nothing against the RX8 but since hes asking for opinions I think he should hear both sides of the argument. Also learn how to drive/handle the car on your own, you can understeer in any car if you don't take the correct line or put too much speed going into a corner.
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08-30-2005, 04:22 PM
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Name of what we are doing
Hi there abbid,
Don't you think closing a " Discussion " thread is a little od on a " Discussion Forum " ?
You no likee no readee
Just my thought. I was enjoying the info
Don't you think closing a " Discussion " thread is a little od on a " Discussion Forum " ?
You no likee no readee
Just my thought. I was enjoying the info
08-30-2005, 04:29 PM
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I think this request of convincing him to buy an RX-8 is one of the dumbest things written in this "Discussion Forum".
1) He comes to an RX-8 group to ask them to convince him of buying the car... (OH... we're all here because we own EVOs and STis... but wanted to be here)... uhh ya.
2) We have to convince someone to buy a 25k+ item.. hmmm..we're sure great salesman.
1) He comes to an RX-8 group to ask them to convince him of buying the car... (OH... we're all here because we own EVOs and STis... but wanted to be here)... uhh ya.
2) We have to convince someone to buy a 25k+ item.. hmmm..we're sure great salesman.
08-30-2005, 04:43 PM
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Agreed Outlaws eXtreme
The idea of convincing anyone via an internet forum is laughable. What it does accomplish though, is the comments from people that have owned both vehicles. A lot if not most, forum talk is funny at best, misinformed at the least.
My comment earlier was more a comment on why " close " a thread because it may have been discussed before. lol
Sitting at the bar the other day talking about how well Brett Favre could do this year for the 16th year and someone said " hey already talked about " .
My comment earlier was more a comment on why " close " a thread because it may have been discussed before. lol
Sitting at the bar the other day talking about how well Brett Favre could do this year for the 16th year and someone said " hey already talked about " .