Burning Rubber in Automatic
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Burning Rubber in Automatic
Just wondering... is it possible to burn rubber in an automatic 8? I have tried numerous times and it just doesn't work. I've turned traction off by pushing the DSC button and then turning it FULLY off by holding the DSC button. Still nothing. I even tried in the rain and it won't work. Has anyone burned rubber in the auto 8 and if so can you give me some tips?
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Re: Burning Rubber in Automatic
Originally posted by Flawless
Has anyone burned rubber in the auto 8 and if so can you give me some tips?
Has anyone burned rubber in the auto 8 and if so can you give me some tips?
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Originally posted by RX8Lover
Yep - sell it and buy a manual. :D
Yep - sell it and buy a manual. :D
As for "burning rubber", it's not gonna happen in the auto (just not enough torgue). With DSC and TCS off I've gotten small amounts of wheelspin only by bringing the revs up to about 3K with the brake depressed. Perhaps with a high stall speed aftermarket torque converter you could. On a wet road however (even a dry one if driving hard enough) with no traction control you can hang the rearend out very easily.
It's good being back in a rwd car. Went fwd with my last one, and it's just not nearly as fun (and I never could get used to torque steer.
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Re: Re: Re: Burning Rubber in Automatic
Originally posted by therm8
Typical reply , I'm actually surprised there's only one.
As for "burning rubber", it's not gonna happen in the auto (just not enough torgue).
Typical reply , I'm actually surprised there's only one.
As for "burning rubber", it's not gonna happen in the auto (just not enough torgue).
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Peak torque doesn't matter. The Renesis doesn't make much torque at low RPM. With the manual, you can rev up to a higher engine speed (where the torque is) before you drop the clutch. The tight factory torque converter of the auto just doesn't let the engine get far enough in its powerband.
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I lovehow these morons who dont own an automatic think they know so much about my car.
AnywayThere aretwo ways I have burned rubber in the automatic. Oneway is to be in neutral and rev to at least 4500 RPM and then quickly drop into drive. This is badfor the transmission but should almost always work.
The other wayIve done it is by doing a brake rev launch. This means holding your left foot on the brake pedal while your right footis on the accelerator. RPMs will probably get to about 2500 - 2750 RPM. Release your left foot and you are off. You can get a short chirp usingthis method and its not as damaging as the other way. It doesnt always work though.
AnywayThere aretwo ways I have burned rubber in the automatic. Oneway is to be in neutral and rev to at least 4500 RPM and then quickly drop into drive. This is badfor the transmission but should almost always work.
The other wayIve done it is by doing a brake rev launch. This means holding your left foot on the brake pedal while your right footis on the accelerator. RPMs will probably get to about 2500 - 2750 RPM. Release your left foot and you are off. You can get a short chirp usingthis method and its not as damaging as the other way. It doesnt always work though.
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Originally posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
The other wayIve done it is by doing a brake rev launch. This means holding your left foot on the brake pedal while your right footis on the accelerator. RPMs will probably get to about 2500 - 2750 RPM. Release your left foot and you are off. You can get a short chirp usingthis method and its not as damaging as the other way. It doesnt always work though.
The other wayIve done it is by doing a brake rev launch. This means holding your left foot on the brake pedal while your right footis on the accelerator. RPMs will probably get to about 2500 - 2750 RPM. Release your left foot and you are off. You can get a short chirp usingthis method and its not as damaging as the other way. It doesnt always work though.
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Originally posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I love how these morons who dont own an automatic think they know so much about my car.
I love how these morons who dont own an automatic think they know so much about my car.
I'm talking about using the e-brake from a stunt driving, spin the car around, sarcastic point of view. Not for power braking.
I do know alot about your car! :p
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That's because weight transfers backwards off of the front wheels when you accelerate. This places far less weight load on your Buick Rendezvous' drive wheels which cause them to lose traction very easily. If it does not have a limited slip differential it makes matters even worse by supplying all of the power to the wheel with the least traction. Even my fwd 127 hp Civic EX can spin the front wheels easily. If it were rear wheel drive and had a limited slip, it would be a far different story.
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rotarygod you posted several seconds before me I did not evensee your post and I appologize for makingit look like you were included w/the group I was referring to. :o
flawless you can do the neutral rev method once or twice just dont get into a habit of it.
flawless you can do the neutral rev method once or twice just dont get into a habit of it.
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Originally posted by magixpuma
that sux u cant even get wheel spin in the rwd rx8 cuz i drive a buic rondevous fwd and i spin those tires of dead stops lik ehteres no tomorro
that sux u cant even get wheel spin in the rwd rx8 cuz i drive a buic rondevous fwd and i spin those tires of dead stops lik ehteres no tomorro
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if you want to burn some rubber (ie, do a burnout), it's really quite simple (though not necessarily easy)... doing an RPM drop from neutral to drive is about as stupid as it gets... with your TCS and DSC systems off (of course), hold the brake, floor the gas with the transmission in manual mode (so you can keep it in first), and try to get a nice hard launch on the tyres. now the tricky bit is to try and dab the brakes ever so softly so you can stop the cars forward progress while the rear tyres aren't getting any grip (a little puddle of bleach in front of the rears would help immensely and give you an incredible smoke show), then to control the cars forward movement while you continue to try and peg the needle... if you press the brakes too hard you'll stop your wheels from spinngin. burning your tyres just takes a couple seconds of spinning, they'll overheat and smoke up somethin' awful after that.
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Originally posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
rotarygod you posted several seconds before me I did not evensee your post and I appologize for makingit look like you were included w/the group I was referring to. :o
rotarygod you posted several seconds before me I did not evensee your post and I appologize for makingit look like you were included w/the group I was referring to. :o
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I've never driven an automatic RX-8 so I'm not sure what it really feels like. However, I've done some great burnouts with automatic Hondas and such. Put the car in neutral, rev to about 5000rpm, lift off the gas for a split second while you shift into driving gear, then immediately jam on the accelerator at full blast. You should be able to get some pretty wild wheelspin this way as opposed to just dumping into drive with your foot on the gas.
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I've never driven an automatic RX-8 so I'm not sure what it really feels like. However, I've done some great burnouts with automatic Hondas and such. Put the car in neutral, rev to about 5000rpm, lift off the gas for a split second while you shift into driving gear, then immediately jam on the accelerator at full blast. You should be able to get some pretty wild wheelspin this way as opposed to just dumping into drive with your foot on the gas.
I've never driven an automatic RX-8 so I'm not sure what it really feels like. However, I've done some great burnouts with automatic Hondas and such. Put the car in neutral, rev to about 5000rpm, lift off the gas for a split second while you shift into driving gear, then immediately jam on the accelerator at full blast. You should be able to get some pretty wild wheelspin this way as opposed to just dumping into drive with your foot on the gas.
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another way to burn rubber would be donuts.
turn off TCS/DSC & throw it in the 1st gear of 'M' mode then accelerate moderatelywith a LOT of room around you then turn one direction slightly then quickly/abruptly turn it the opposite direction while getting on the gas hard.
Good luck, I accidently had this happen to me.
turn off TCS/DSC & throw it in the 1st gear of 'M' mode then accelerate moderatelywith a LOT of room around you then turn one direction slightly then quickly/abruptly turn it the opposite direction while getting on the gas hard.
Good luck, I accidently had this happen to me.
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I've never done a burnout from a standstill, its just not possbile in the auto. But what I have done thats just as sweet is turn the DSC off and make a U turn and put the pedal to the medal. I've down this several times and you will get a nice spin out of those back tires! Oh by the way put the car in Manual mode!
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Originally posted by sjt
another way to burn rubber would be donuts.
another way to burn rubber would be donuts.
I've tried brake-torquing with my RX and it doesn't work. The engine won't rev past about 2500rpm. The small amount of torque and HP generated at that point can't break loose the big tires the RX-8 has. I beleive peak torque isn't hit until 5k.
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Keeping everything else equal, you are SUPPOSE to get more wheel spin from a FWD car than a RWD. As someone mentioned, this has to do with the transfer of weight from the Front of the car to the back. This is exactly the reason why performance are designed to be RWD.
Back to your question, For a quick launch, Hold the brake pedal nice and tight, rev the engine to 4K, release the brake very quickly and then floor the gas pedal.
For a tire burnout show, find a empty parking lot, put you car in reverse and get your self going like 2,3 mph backwards, don't touch the brakes, put it in neutral, rev the engine to 5K, put it to Drive quickly and then floor the gas. (hurts tires and transmission big time but you get a good show)
Back to your question, For a quick launch, Hold the brake pedal nice and tight, rev the engine to 4K, release the brake very quickly and then floor the gas pedal.
For a tire burnout show, find a empty parking lot, put you car in reverse and get your self going like 2,3 mph backwards, don't touch the brakes, put it in neutral, rev the engine to 5K, put it to Drive quickly and then floor the gas. (hurts tires and transmission big time but you get a good show)