Beodude

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Boy, talk about a

adamwzl

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you have a lot too learn about engine life with a rotary. driving like you stole it is the whole purpose of keeping a healthy engine. Now were not saying drive like a bat out of hell and ignore all traffic laws. If thats what your thinkin.


We're saying redline as much as possible and dont be one of thoses douches who thinks their doing good by keeping the rpms under 3k all the time to save on gas and to increase engine life. Just freaking drive it and stop bitching about gas mileage. It sucks we dont get the best mileage but honestly who cares.

Beodude

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Okay, first off, I've done more reading than most of the people on here. I've been on here since 2005 or so, but my other name got banned for Russian spam, or some junk.


Also, this thread was more of a joke, just to see what people would say. I posted a link to my "why people cry about gas mileage" thread in the first post, but since it was a text hyperlink, people must have missed it. I pretty much asked why people cry about crappy gas mileage of the 8. I know what the car is, I know what it means to own one. I know that the gas mileage is part of the experience, and that experience, as a whole, is more than worth the cost of fuel. So don't take this thread as me crying about gas mileage. Because I'm not.


I have had my car two weeks so far, and I've taken it through many full rev cycles, so I know how to drive it. I know about carbon on the SSV and everything else. Hell, I know that race teams have problems with side seal failure due to the nature of the side exhaust port. I know things to do to improve the life of the engine. I'm already removing the cat and putting the Sohn adapter on. I'll also be premixing, since I read that entire thread and thought it was a good idea.

Lord ET

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He isn't a 'hypermiler.' He has other threads where he talk about the fact that he does like to drive spirited. He simply asked if anyone has done it, admitted to shutting off his engine for one stoplight (which I think is dumb...if someone can't stop for you then you won't be able to move out of the way) and people just jumped him about it...


EDIT: Beat me to it.

fuztupnz

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If it's a joke, why do you keep arguing for it? Really? I'm proud of you for reading and that you've driven your 8 for 2 weeks. My wife has more rev cycles in my car than you, but it doesn't mean she knows anything about it other than it's fun, good for it, and not to do it when it's not warmed up.

I'm not hating on you man, but you're contradicting yourself and opening up a can of warms that will lead to dumb pictures posted and your thread closed.

Beodude

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All I'm saying by the hypermiling type stuff, is, why not get the most out of it that you can? Is it silly? A bit. Am I going to have fun with my car still? Heck yeah I am. Am I going to drive like a grandma trying to get it to do 25 mpg on the highway? Heck no. But when I'm not having fun with it, who's to say that it can't do better than what the EPA posts (which is BS anyways)?

I was just thinking about pumping losses one day, and then I thought of the irony of me posting about this, just after making my other thread. I had a good laugh, and wanted to see where it went.




Now then, I'm going to get back to making an RX-8 in 3D Dot Game Heroes. I already did one, but it came out sideways. I guess you need to pay attention to where the arrow points... LoL

Marc_GS

It never ceases to amaze me how aggressively defensive people get about gas mileage on this board. It's like the RX-8 community just collectively has this giant chip on it's shoulder about the gas mileage of the rotary.

Yes, it's a fact, the rotary gets **** mileage and we have to accept that. Those looking to get great mileage should not even consider this car.

On the other hand, why is it not ok to try to get better mileage? Sure, if the method used damages the engine (low rpm high load, for example) then avoid it, but if there are good ways to get better mileage without damaging the car, why the hell can't we have a grown-up discussion about it?

longpath

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The problem with large throttle openings at low rpms in the Wankel is that the intake velocity drops to the point where out air/fuel mixture starts to condense or clump, instead of being fairly evenly distributed across the combustion chamber. This is because of the long combustion chambers. I think that if you were using a fuel like propane that is a gas at room temperature, you could try something like this with some modicum of success; but doing this with a liquid fuel in the Wankel negatively impacts fuel vaporization.

Try this as an experiment. Try lugging the engine uphill and then on the same slope, change down a gear, so you have the same temperature, slope, and throttle angle. Use an instrument like a ScanGauge II or an AccessPort to measure your instantaneous fuel economy. I've done this experiment on my 2004 RX-8 and my fuel economy improves after I change down a gear, bumping the engine to a higher RPM and restoring intake velocity. This is especially so if the low rpm is less than 2000.

There is a hypermiling trick that I have seen work. When I am going downhill on the highway, instead of lifting off the throttle and having the engine slow me down, I push in the clutch and then let off the throttle so that the downhill maintains my speed. For the duration of the hill, I see higher MPGs on my ScanGauge II than I would if I just let back on the throttle (in one case, I went about 2 miles with really ridiculous 3 figure MPG numbers showing and it bumped my trip average up one).

jasonrxeight

if your idea of getting most out of it is to drive longest distance, mine is to have most fun.
its your opinion, and everybody has their own opinions. just because its yours doesnt mean everybody else gonna love it.
I dont think people here really care about gas millage otherwise they would buy something else.

merrill77

Here here! No need to get brutal on the OP. It seems that people here are a bit over-sensitive about the gas mileage. Lets face it, there are a variety of engines that produce a sh**load more torque/power than the Renesis AND get much better mileage. By that measure, the Renesis engine is inferior. Such is life, get over it. It doesn't mean you need to hate on somebody for wanting to get better mileage.

C

Beodude

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I also fail to see why people see hypermiling, and instantly think that the fun has to go. GUESS WHAT PEOPLE! I STILL HAVE FUN WITH MY CAR! I DID MY RESEARCH! I KNOW IT GETS BAD MILEAGE! I DON'T CARE!

Thanks Marc and Longpath for adding to the discussion. I know things are different on a rotary, but I didn't know it was that different. I'll not lug the engine. It probably won't make much difference anyways.



I'll still be turning the engine off for long idles though.





Just a bunch of haters on here... Hahahaha

Jedi54

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hypermiling an RX-8?!

sorry, but that's gotta be one of THE most retarded things I've ever read.


"enjoy" your RX-8...

CyberPitz

Am I the only one who finds hypermilling way too dangerous to think of it as doing any good for your wallet???

Drafting 18 wheelers, taking turns way faster than need be, TURNING THE CAR OFF WHILE IN MOTION?

No thanks, I like being in control at all times.

fuztupnz

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no steering or power brakes is fun Cyber, especially when drafting something that can decapitate you when it has to short stop.

I think it's a dumb craze, and if i still had a car with steal bumpers, I would push hypermilers off the road and/or let them rear end me.

pdxhak

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I bet these people split a roll of 3 ply toilet paper into 3 rolls.

ken-x8

Yikes! He already said it was a fun post for discussion, not something he advocates, and he's still getting pounded!

If you think of hypermiling and aggressive driving as two interesting (albeit irresponsible) ways to have fun, I'll go with aggressive driving. You do it every now and then when the mood strikes, and get immediate satisfaction. If you hypermile, you've got to maintain it for a whole tank - maybe several - to see how you're doing. So you're making a commitment, and are less likely to knock it off when innocent bystanders are around.

Ken

Beodude

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Bwahahahahah! I saw some show that had people doing some weird stuff. Like some dude reusing paper towels, people cutting off the ends of toothpaste to get every drop out... Stuff like that. Made me chuckle.

Jacob6875

I am not sure what exactly constitutes "hypermiling" but by driving my car normally I have gotten as high as 22.8mpg.

Of course I bought the car to have fun but I don't see how, as some of you claim, that you drive it around at 9k RPM all the time.

I mean it is kind of hard to drive quickly when I go to school during rush hour every day. Can't really open it up following a minivan on a 2 lane road or sitting behind two trucks passing each other in the interstate.

Speed_8

When I saw this thread i found it interesting to read, while knowing its not a good idea to hypermill. I do not know why you guys are trashing the OP, Im pretty sure if his thread count was over 5000 you guys wouldn't judge him as harsh, if you have nothing positive to say, then say nothing, I found this thread more interesting then " I saw an rx8 on the road today " threads.

pdxhak

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Speed_8, if you think post count will limit members from being criticized then you have not been on 8club long enough Some of the most heated "debates" are with long standing members.

YaXMaNGTO

Speed_8

yes you are right, I've read many.. but I have done searches and sometimes I could not find what I was looking for, so I start a new thread with a question, and then get a response with a link with Q & A thread, that has nothing to do with my question and get asked to close my thread.. I just find it ridiculous, If you find the question is stupid, just do not comment and let someone else comment on it.

nycgps

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post count has nothing to do with ... anything.

from time to time I get hate pm telling me to **** off.

I was just telling ppl the truth, but truth hurts(most of the time)

Beodude

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I'm not butthurt. Actually learned something from my little irony thread.

Rx8vsMalibu

I've had my Rx8 for about one month now and I admit my gas mileage hasn't been great; about 180 miles until the low fuel level light comes on. I know for sure that my coils need to be changed however because the car chirps when it first starts. In the last month of owning the car I've only driven it about 10 times and tonight was the first time I actually redlined it(Ive taken it up to 8k rpm a few times). The beep at 9000 rpm felt very nice. When I'm just cruising on the road I usually stay in 5th around 3,000 rpm, that is the only "hypermiling" I do, just stay in low rpm when cruising and I try to avoid putting load on the engine when its in high gear and low rpm. I would think high throttle, low rpm would have a negative effect, but not sure.