Any idea about rubber
10-23-2002, 11:33 AM
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Any idea about rubber
Got one question whos going to supply tires I hope Yokohama as thats what I have on my Olds but Toyo is alright except it seems they pick up every little thing off the road-nails metal fragments.
The AVS from Yokohama is a very good grade tire and super sticky
and superior wet traction. Just wondering if any one heared anything.
The AVS from Yokohama is a very good grade tire and super sticky
and superior wet traction. Just wondering if any one heared anything.
10-23-2002, 12:05 PM
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Re: Any idea about rubber
Originally posted by Spining Ncnratr
Got one question whos going to supply tires I hope Yokohama as thats what I have on my Olds but Toyo is alright except it seems they pick up every little thing off the road-nails metal fragments.
The AVS from Yokohama is a very good grade tire and super sticky
and superior wet traction. Just wondering if any one heared anything.
Got one question whos going to supply tires I hope Yokohama as thats what I have on my Olds but Toyo is alright except it seems they pick up every little thing off the road-nails metal fragments.
The AVS from Yokohama is a very good grade tire and super sticky
and superior wet traction. Just wondering if any one heared anything.
In this range, my recollection is that the Pilot Sports are what most manufactureres include as OEM tires, since they have pretty good all-around performance.
10-23-2002, 09:52 PM
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......and Blizzak LM-22
Actually, I hope it comes with Bridgestone Potenzas, I've heard alot of good things about those tires (expensive, though).
10-23-2002, 10:36 PM
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SP9000s are not sold in the very odd 225/45/18 size, but aren't they 19s on the prototype anyways? Personally I'd rather have 225/45/17s which are the same profile but much cheaper and with a gazillion choices.
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
10-24-2002, 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by Macabre
SP9000s are not sold in the very odd 225/45/18 size, but aren't they 19s on the prototype anyways? Personally I'd rather have 225/45/17s which are the same profile but much cheaper and with a gazillion choices.
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
SP9000s are not sold in the very odd 225/45/18 size, but aren't they 19s on the prototype anyways? Personally I'd rather have 225/45/17s which are the same profile but much cheaper and with a gazillion choices.
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
10-24-2002, 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Macabre
SP9000s are not sold in the very odd 225/45/18 size, but aren't they 19s on the prototype anyways? Personally I'd rather have 225/45/17s which are the same profile but much cheaper and with a gazillion choices.
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
SP9000s are not sold in the very odd 225/45/18 size, but aren't they 19s on the prototype anyways? Personally I'd rather have 225/45/17s which are the same profile but much cheaper and with a gazillion choices.
not too keen on spending $1000 for a set of street tires that are only 225mm wide
http://www.tyre4u.com/productdetails...20Sport%209000
10-24-2002, 10:13 AM
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perhaps, but according to www.dunloptire.com, there is no such size.
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10-24-2002, 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Macabre
perhaps, but according to www.dunloptire.com, there is no such size.
perhaps, but according to www.dunloptire.com, there is no such size.
10-24-2002, 05:15 PM
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I DESPISE Dunlop SP9000s. That tire is too hard to offer any kind of grip, and it's hard compound makes it a lousy wet surface tire. I can tell you from experience on the street and on race courses, it is a marketing type of tire that is intended to look sporty, last awhile, and cost a bit of money. It sucks when it comes down to performance.
If Mazda wants their car to actually be able to handle, they need to stay away from the SP9000s
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If Mazda wants their car to actually be able to handle, they need to stay away from the SP9000s
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10-25-2002, 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by BryanH
I know you weren't asking me, but... :D
I know you weren't asking me, but... :D
10-25-2002, 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Hercules
Never liked Pirelli's. I'm a Michelin man
Never liked Pirelli's. I'm a Michelin man
10-25-2002, 09:16 AM
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I've gone through a few sets of Pirelli P7000s, and I would be quite happy if they come on the car. I've also been happy with the sets of Michelin Sports that I've had on two different cars. I want to avoid anything like a Kumho Ecsta that will get greasy when driven hard, and won't last worth spit. I'd like to try some Toyos next on my Miata, but I'm not in the business of evaluating tires, so I think I'll go with what I know is good and stick with the Michelins.
I don't have an issue with Dunflop either. A few years ago, I had great results from a set of D40s. It's just that the SP9ks are designed incorrectly for my tastes, and they cost way too much for what they don't deliver.
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I don't have an issue with Dunflop either. A few years ago, I had great results from a set of D40s. It's just that the SP9ks are designed incorrectly for my tastes, and they cost way too much for what they don't deliver.
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10-25-2002, 09:35 AM
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http://www.mrccfl.com/sevenstock/rx8/hires/rx82.jpg
This picture shows a Bridgestone S-03 P.P. on the prototype at Mazda in Irvine. I would "guess" the size as a 225/45R18. Bridgestone to date has not installed S-03's as an O.E. fittment on any vehicle, so the final product may be some variation designed for the RX-8.
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10-25-2002, 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Zoom4Three
http://www.mrccfl.com/sevenstock/rx8/hires/rx82.jpg
This picture shows a Bridgestone S-03 P.P. on the prototype at Mazda in Irvine. I would "guess" the size as a 225/45R18. Bridgestone to date has not installed S-03's as an O.E. fittment on any vehicle, so the final product may be some variation designed for the RX-8.
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http://www.mrccfl.com/sevenstock/rx8/hires/rx82.jpg
This picture shows a Bridgestone S-03 P.P. on the prototype at Mazda in Irvine. I would "guess" the size as a 225/45R18. Bridgestone to date has not installed S-03's as an O.E. fittment on any vehicle, so the final product may be some variation designed for the RX-8.
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Those are rated 100%, the best tyre in consumer survey at the Tyre Rack:-
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....+Pole+Position
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10-25-2002, 05:15 PM
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Well either that, or they are those new Khumo MX look alikes. S03's are quite expensive, but I hope it comes with them. I'd probably just buy Yokohama AVS ES100s when the stock tires wear out. Can't really afford nearly a grand in tires + installation for 18" rims. 
But I think that Brigestone S02's have been fitted to a fair number of sports cars as stock tires, so S03's might just be a reality.
But I think that Brigestone S02's have been fitted to a fair number of sports cars as stock tires, so S03's might just be a reality.
10-25-2002, 05:47 PM
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Hmmm,
I'm wondering how long tyres on this sort of car are gonna last... I mean it might be a reflection on my driving, but I tend to get pretty high miles out of a set of road tyres... although not as much as my father who seems to regularly get 30,000 miles.
At that rate, I'm gonna make at least a year if not two on a set of tyres... so the cost isn't so much for a good set, especially if it can make the car handle better!
I'm wondering how long tyres on this sort of car are gonna last... I mean it might be a reflection on my driving, but I tend to get pretty high miles out of a set of road tyres... although not as much as my father who seems to regularly get 30,000 miles.
At that rate, I'm gonna make at least a year if not two on a set of tyres... so the cost isn't so much for a good set, especially if it can make the car handle better!
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Originally posted by fuz
Well either that, or they are those new Khumo MX look alikes.
The tires pictured are S-03 Pole Position's, Kuhmo MX's are quite different in tread design.
But I think that Brigestone S02's have been fitted to a fair number of sports cars as stock tires, so S03's might just be a reality.
Well either that, or they are those new Khumo MX look alikes.
The tires pictured are S-03 Pole Position's, Kuhmo MX's are quite different in tread design.
But I think that Brigestone S02's have been fitted to a fair number of sports cars as stock tires, so S03's might just be a reality.
Mazda has a strong relationship with Bridgestone, and the S-03 is a awesome product. It would be great to see them make the production car in one form or another.
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10-25-2002, 11:19 PM
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Give me any tire, im too novice a driver to notice the difference b/w cheap and expensive tires, I also dont race around everywhere. the wheels are gonna be some 18in ordeal so I hope i can find tires in that size when i need new ones. Does anyone thing the fenders are too flaired on the 8? from some angles the car looks odd, but i have to see it in person before i pass judgement.
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If you say that, you must have only experienced one type or the other. The difference between the long-lasting Cosco-brand tire and an ultra-high performance street tire is *HUGE* even if you aren't a spirited driver. Even if it's just for the active safety, you definitely want the better tires!
10-26-2002, 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Macabre
If you say that, you must have only experienced one type or the other. The difference between the long-lasting Cosco-brand tire and an ultra-high performance street tire is *HUGE* even if you aren't a spirited driver. Even if it's just for the active safety, you definitely want the better tires!
If you say that, you must have only experienced one type or the other. The difference between the long-lasting Cosco-brand tire and an ultra-high performance street tire is *HUGE* even if you aren't a spirited driver. Even if it's just for the active safety, you definitely want the better tires!
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First time I swiched to better tires than the average all seasons, there was a fair change, but I didn't drive agressively enough at the time to notice a huge difference in grip. The handling however, completely changed by a good margin. Road feel went from non-existant to almost too much. Was quite a handfull on wet roads.
As you get more used to pushing a car to its limits, the more you notice tiny differences in tire quality, so if us fanatics seem crazy, well, we are. :D No matter how good a car is, all it connects to the road with are the tires. You don't want that to be your weak link in the chain.
The light weight of the RX-8 should get the tires to last a bit longer, I'm hoping. I'm certainly not going to be pampering this car after a gradual break-in. I wear out tires at about 20-30k miles on every car I've driven, most of them all season tires, of the Michelin Pilot XGT type. It's probably cause I hate them so much that I run them into the ground. Parents wonder what I do to need tires every ~1.5 years.
They tend to replace tires every 4 years. :o
As you get more used to pushing a car to its limits, the more you notice tiny differences in tire quality, so if us fanatics seem crazy, well, we are. :D No matter how good a car is, all it connects to the road with are the tires. You don't want that to be your weak link in the chain.
The light weight of the RX-8 should get the tires to last a bit longer, I'm hoping. I'm certainly not going to be pampering this car after a gradual break-in. I wear out tires at about 20-30k miles on every car I've driven, most of them all season tires, of the Michelin Pilot XGT type. It's probably cause I hate them so much that I run them into the ground. Parents wonder what I do to need tires every ~1.5 years.
They tend to replace tires every 4 years. :o