49,583mls:flooded!
 

I have defended this car from day one on this forum, now two and a half years, 49,583 miles later, it finally got me, my car flooded. Nothing more to do except wait for roadside to come haul it off. Of all times for it to happen, my mother was using it because I needed to travel in a car that got more than 4 miles to the gallon!! Her v-6 gets 28, and you can bet it will never leave you stranded! I think its time to shop around, I am throwing in the towel. I love this car, but its not just me anymore, I need a reliable car. Goodluck to you all.

exactly your mother was using it she probably doesnt know the shut off procedures turned it off cold like u would never do without revving the engine and flooded it good thing is u have 400 miles left on the warranty u get new spark plugs free the better 1's and hell try and get new brakes and battery while u are at it.

Just curious. Were you careful about never cutting the engine off cold?

someone inexperienced with the rotary was driving it just sounds like this guy doesnt want his car

That the longest paragraph I have seen without a period. :D:

psshh.. you should see one of the responses to me when i said something similiar couple days back.
Don't blame the car. The car (so far anyways) has been very reliable to me :scratchhe

Yep, sounds like yo moms fucked up.

did you have the flame suit on? :lol2:

Look, you can debate "rotary procedures" all day long. I have been on this forum from day one, and am well aware of the kinks with this car, but the bottom line is you pay alot of money for a car and you expect it to at least crank. It is not reasonable to expect every one that drives this car to be rotary savy, even if you inform them of procedures, cutting the car off cold will happen. You are correct, I do not want this car anymore. Imagine how you would feel about a fairly new car that left someone you cared about stranded. Defending this car on this issue is not reasonable.

god this planet is going to SUCK when everything is idiot proof and we have to live un bubbles and have warning labels on everyhting that read aloud to you in 77 diffrent languages in case you can't read.

Nice grammer JCT, how stupid is yu?

TSB? did you do it? If not = lazy and = you deserve it

Thats it for me, have fun sitting in your car waiting for it to warm up!

Everone I care about that has access to my 8 knows about cold engine shut down. Also the tow truck was invented before the RX-8, other cars break down and strand people. Your human, it's ok to admit to mistake.

if y ou been here since day 1 (i guess you mean since the website was first created) then you should of known about the flood issues with rotary. its not like something new. really please get rid of the 8, be one less thread about why i hate the 8 so much. really if i hated the 8 and was going to get rid of it . think ill come here and make a thread about it? no these bye bye threads so gxy. sorry that your having issues atm. but these drama queen threads are just old.

btw dude im so JDM!


oh and also. there is a mercedes that cost 1mil and the person who bought it only drove it 5 times till it wont start up any more. and guess what mercedes will not fix the car.

My advice:

1. Wait until you calm down and can look reasonably at the situation and decide if what truly is a minor inconvenience is worth ditching a car you enjoy to drive.

and if not 1. then:

2. Wash the sand out of your vagina and worry about something that matters :wavey:

bye

Instead of bashing you for what you're saying, and I think you have a valid point, let me point out that there are other cars out there with much worse problems that can happen. It flooded, sure... but at least you're not having a blown head gasket, a bent rod, transmission failure or any of the other wonderful and far more expensive problems that other cars are subject to. And with the TSBs this should never happen again either.

gas mileage is therefore your only problem and only a new car will help you with that, just don't get a grand prix, 3 times bigger with a v-6 but gets only 20 mpg as well.

Calm down bud, like you said, you love and defended for this car since Day One and you are fully informed about when and how will the engine can get flooded. So dont let the frustration of a car breakdown turned into a hatred for the RX-8. Take a deep breathe, read those R&T RX-8 reviews again, watch the Top Gear video one more time and you'll feel much better.

Frankly, given that you've like this car for so long and got so angry of it because of just one incident exactly shows how much you really love it inside. Think about it Bud.

good advice, i was thinking the same thing. its okay to want something else, but i have a hunch that after this whole thing blows over, youll want your 8 back. maybe when you get in that rental car, and you realize that driving most cars just isnt as fun. good luck.

get the toyota prius it gets lots of mpg and can beat a ferrari enzo 0-6

whens the last time teh plugs were changed?

Does the deflooding procedure not work sometimes? I just dont get how the car could flood so bad it needs to be taken to a dealer to get fixed. Seems like the rotors would just paddle the gas out of the exhaust.

Have fun with the reliability of your next car

wow that's the perfect summation of whats happening in this country, amen brotha!


What ever happend to "if you don't like it get the fuck out" motto of the united states? Now billions of dollars and millions of man hours are wasted trying to please "everyone".

On a side note to the person that had the flood after almost 50K miles, sorry to hear it man, if you dont like the care trade it in, but dont bash it. Yes our car has quirks, but I like to think of our car as mildly exotic in a few ways.... and anything that's different and/or rare needs to be treated differently. You wouldn't expect a Ferrari to be as reliable as a Volvo would you, even though it costs assloads more?

kthxbye!

lawl my car just got more exotic lawl

I figured the flood was caused by a rotary-inexperienced person.

My question to greene76 was to find out whether he was one of those people who had traditionally been careful in avoiding shutting the engine off cold, or whether he was one of the individuals who don't believe that flooding is a problem and doesn't avoid cold cut-offs.

I guess his next choice of car is limited to Honda or Toyota. I like Honda as much as the next person, but that's gotta suck.

Yep...I would think that the originator of this thread could even sue Mazda for upwards of $10 million if he wanted to. HE can't be responsible for taking care of his car...that's just silly. [/sarcastic comments]

$40,000 actual damages (cost of the car to date) and $9,960,000 for pain and suffering?

i agree, its like ppl sueing mcdonalds, because they did not know eating hamburgers every day would make them fatter

The car/engine requires some special care, if you decide to buy it knowing this then you take the risk of flooding it. However I do think there are some basic things Mazda could do to help.

How hard would it be to have an indicator like they have on diesel motors (a warning indicator comes up after you turn the key one notch to wait to start) that says “Engine Cold” and then switches to a tack at 3000 RPM and 10Sec. Yes you can just look at the temp gauge but Americans are lazy as a rule and how hard is it to add a light on the dash.

I'd say it's more like someone suing the door lock company because they locked the keys in the house.... or suing the door manufacturer because the wind blew it shut.

Maybe they should sue the oil comapny becuase their fuel caused the problem. I think they should sue their parents for bringing them into this world.

I think only really stupid thing about this thread is your indignation.

Look, there's plenty of reasons to not want to keep this car. Be honest with yourself and don't try to act so indignant about an issue you knew about and is technically your fault. :-/

I mean look, you should've just said, "I'm trading my car in for a car with better gas mileage and doesn't flood. My mom borrowed my car and flooded the engine, I need a car without quirks like that."

The whole "OMG! My car betrayed me! Left my mom for dead!" attitude you're putting out is pretty over the top. (I'm exaggerating, but that's what I feel like you're trying to do.)

everyone is assuming the car flooded because of a short trip shut off etc. i can think of many reasons any car with 50k miles could flood- needs new plugs, battery weak from ligth sbeing left on etc etc . so it may not have even been a "rotary " flood just a car flood

my car is taking a few seconds to start when i crank it now i think im gonna trade it in!!!!!! oh wait theres a tsb for a new bigger better battery and better spark plugs i think ill just go get that done!!!

It's no big deal... anyone who doesn't want to follow the cold-engine shutdown procedure simply shouldn't drive an RX8. Good luck with whatever you get!

did you forget about all the rotary cars mazda came out before the 8?

I'm 21...this is my first rotary...and i've had no problem with my car ever flooding. It's also not that hard for me to have explained to the people in my household not to shut off the car when its cold...and guess what...it has never happened. One day my car was at home while I was away, and a possum got into the garage...even my neighbor...which I told once about the rotary engine...left the car on after he pulled the car out of the garage as my mom didn't trust driving my car (stick shift). Like I said...I don't think twice about whether or not to ever shut my car off when I have to move it a small difference. Even when I goto just get gas (my house is less than a mile from the gas station)...I let it warm up slightly in my driveway.

my body shop was supposed to have my bumper painted by today but they didnt and now im not getting my car back till monday....screw this im trading it in!!

This is absolutely right.... I have never shut down this car cold and my she flooded at 40,000km and needed a tow. Got a new battery, plugs and a new set of coils - under warranty. Then she flooded again at 49,000km and again needed a tow. This time I got another set of coils - done under warranty again. Then at 49500km the battery light came on and stayed on while I was cruising on the highway. This time I got a new alternator ( which may have been the problem all along) - also under warranty. Yes it's been a hassle, but there are just too many upsides to this car.

Sports cars always need more attention than any Camry Beater. Ask any "true sports car owner, not a Civic sports car wannabe" that do they need proper maintence. Even Civics (I mean those wannabes) pay special attentions to their cars.

but I guess sports cars is not for you. Go buy yourself and your mom a Prius. It gives you great mileage and lots of repair bills (way more than the 8) can give ya down the road.

I'm not sure what you're getting at.... according to my friends who owned RX7s, they were also susceptible to flooding (when shutdown cold without being revved first).

As far as the question over why greene76's car flooded goes, he wrote:
I actually agree with him to a certain extent: it's absurd that a new car sold today has this "quirk". But on the other hand, the rotary is not a mainstream engine... anyone not willing to put up with the cold-engine shutoff procedure shouldn't drive an RX8. That's not a criticism of greene76; it's just reality.

we all understands the "required" caution to a rotary engine. but at least we just wont whine like greene76 did. From his words he just sound like one of those"typical I need a accord/camry" kind of guy out there who doesnt deserves to have a special sports car.

I bought a 2004 with around 23,500 miles on it about 2 weeks ago. I talked to the rotary expert at the local dealership today. He's very familiar with the car I bought. He heard me "rev" when I turned the car off, but told me that he's installed protections against flooding. For this car, he recommends only taking additional precautions in cold weather (not something we get a lot of down here in Pensacola). I was glad to hear that he had done the work necessary to update the car. Naturally, I hope he's right.

Yes... I do the same... The other day I pulled the 8 out of the garage to wash it and wax it.... I left the car running until it warmed up, then turn the engine off.....

It is not really that hard....I am also a first rotary owner, and to me it is actually very cool to take all these precautions with my 8... it makes me feel unique when I tell my friends about the things to do and watch for with my car...
NO OTHER CAR currently in production is this unique :)

49k aint bad.. mine flooded at 10k.. now im at 14k and about ready to sell it for somethin else :)

after 2 1/2 years you have 100 posts :dunno: thats a lot of defending :lol:

Since when is 50k miles a "relatively new car"?

My only question for the OP.