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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Thats why I date paraplegics... no legs to get in the way.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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^^^^ "Good Job" ^^^^
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Thats why I date paraplegics... no legs to get in the way.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Freddie
^^^^ "Good Job" ^^^^
thanks
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thisllub
I am pretty puzzled about that one. I can't imagine how it would get in the way.

He makes a convincing former F1 driver argument
Fifth Gear - RX-8

He talkes about the shifter around 1:30
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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I thought the hand brake was a standard technique used to break the back end loose by The Drifters.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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Doesn't the ABS system malfunction when the e-brake is set? Couldn't that have caused it?
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaMonkey
He makes a convincing former F1 driver argument
Fifth Gear - RX-8

He talkes about the shifter around 1:30
yeah wellk if he was driving on the right side of the road, then the shifter wouldnt have been in the way... its not in my way...
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaMonkey
He makes a convincing former F1 driver argument
Fifth Gear - RX-8

He talkes about the shifter around 1:30
He complains about the shape of the **** too.

There is no way the handbrake can interfere with the gearstick. It does intrude into the legroom but it isn't a bad leg rest for highway cruising.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Yeah I disagree about the shifter. I love the way the **** feels in the RX-8. He is just old school racer how has his mind set. He probably thinks paddle shifters are ultra dumb too
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Yeah, the shifting **** feels great, and fit perfectly with the car and all the rest of the rotary accents.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I always hated that handbrake. Disgusting design. Don't understand why it has to be so prominent. Look inside the car and that's the first thing you notice...
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver Blue-8
I was driving on the highway (raining), and I was merging into a curve lane to make an enter to the another highway route. I was new to that area so I didn't know about the merge and was in "not slow" speed, probably around 65km/hr. When I realised there was a lane merge, I slowed down, just gradually, no heavy braking at all. The next thing I know , my car started drifting to the left, then I steered to the left trying to save it, then the whole car spinned to the right, pushed to the grass on the right continue spinning accorss the lane and ended up on the grass on the left.
This is called "trailing throttle over-steer"... when you got the steering far enough to the left to regain directional control, the momentum of the front of the car going left was enough to snap the car into a spin to the right (uncorrected fishtailing). This used to be a horrible problem with Porsche's older 911 designs when entering a corner too fast. This is also why cars are made so that they'll understeer drastically and dramatically when entering a corner too fast. Lifting the throttle on an understeering car merely returns control to the driver at some point. Staying off the throttle in a "lift-oversteer" condition simply results in a spin, usually in the direction of the initial oversteer, but our cars have enough steering angle to over correct, causing snap spins in the other direction, especially when off the throttle.

The correct response is countersteering in the direction of the slide and a CONSTANT pressure on the throttle, not the brakes. Watch Stig drive the RX-8 off the corners in any Top Gear video and you'll see what I mean. You have to use the throttle to keep the rear wheels turning in a forward motion while they're struggling for grip. Formula Drift and D1GP drivers make this look easy.

1/2 up on the E-brake was NOT a factor at all or you would have simply spun out to the left and that would have been the end of it.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Still i like e-brake better on RX-8 than G35... They have those stupid foot e-brakes where you have to use your foot to press down. You can't drift like that !
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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Never had that problem with my gf (or any other passenger). If I did, as some have said, new rules would be made immediately.

Then again, the OP said his gf denies doing it. It could've been a very bad accident and that is a great deal of responsibility for her to admit to. Might not be worth pressuring her as I doubt, if she did do it, she'll do it again.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Photomunkey could be right, I wasn't too sure what I was doing, it's probably me driving too fast in the rain, and just by coincidense that she jacked up my handbrake at the same time. Like Shinka-dono mentioned, there's no point pressuring anybody to admit anything now. However, we came up with a "so-called" solution.

Now when we go out together, she drives her big SUV, nice and slow. When I drive to work or when I am on my own, I will then enjoy my Blue-8. But yeah, after that experience, I drive slower in the rain, which cannot be a bad thing.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thisllub
Not in right hand drive cars.
True....Mazda was too cheap to change it.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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the handbrake is there because this was originally designed as a RHD car in japan. still not sure why they didnt change that when they moved everything else over for the LHD here ...

cheaper that way. they don't need to make any new parts for the US models.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RedSheDevil
the handbrake is there because this was originally designed as a RHD car in japan. still not sure why they didnt change that when they moved everything else over for the LHD here ...
Even though it was designed primarily for RHD the e-brake is still a problem on those because it gets in the way of the shifter. Who knows why Mazda decided they needed the e-brake to be bigger than the engine.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Even though it was designed primarily for RHD the e-brake is still a problem on those because it gets in the way of the shifter. Who knows why Mazda decided they needed the e-brake to be bigger than the engine.
The gear **** is higher than the brake and at least 3" away. The only way the brake could interfere with the gear changing process is if you depress the clutch with your left hand.
The gear lever is perfectly positioned so that your elbow rests on the console between shifts. Good ergonomic design.

My only complaint with the handbrake is that its short travel could lead to incomplete application when parked.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Ebrake drifts?! The ebrake on our cars is not nearly strong enough to maintain a drift. It can be used to initiate a drift but mid drift I find the "clutch kick" to be more helpful and hella faster. I spent a lot of time this winter fooling around in parking lots....
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