232 Hp Rx-8?
01-06-2006, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dmp
lol...riiiiiiiiight. Seems more likely Mazda just applied a new set of correction values against their current numbers. Cheaper. 
01-06-2006, 09:22 AM
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OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! MY CAR IS DOWN ANOTHER 6 HP! Whatever shall I do? OH MY GOD!
[running screaming around the room, hands waving in the air]
The only thing that counts with me is my "butt o meter" which says that my car is fast and fun to drive. Numbers only matter if you're comparing your schwanz in size relative to the guy next to you. And if you're obsessing about that, you've got bigger issues.
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The only thing that counts with me is my "butt o meter" which says that my car is fast and fun to drive. Numbers only matter if you're comparing your schwanz in size relative to the guy next to you. And if you're obsessing about that, you've got bigger issues.
01-06-2006, 09:40 AM
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Its really not a big difference going from 238, to 232 at the crank. That is like 3whp. Not a huge deal, and still doesn't explain the huge hp loss. I think people are making a bigger deal of this than it really is, and I still don't think this is the true hp figure. Not unless they start dynoing higher for the 06 models.
01-06-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
Its really not a big difference going from 238, to 232 at the crank. That is like 3whp. Not a huge deal, and still doesn't explain the huge hp loss. I think people are making a bigger deal of this than it really is, and I still don't think this is the true hp figure. Not unless they start dynoing higher for the 06 models.
carefull...you'll **** off people...they'll call you a 'hata'. For the record, I'm RIGHT there with ya.
01-06-2006, 10:02 AM
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Sounds to me like they are starting to come clean like the motorcycle world is. everyoen was pushing such high HP numbers then that got all shot to hell when everyone started testing and such, it is what it is...I still love the 8
01-06-2006, 10:05 AM
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Not too bad I guess, but I wish Mazda found another 15HP for real cause I think that's a bit of misinformation. The reason it went up is because of the new tranny not so much because Mazda truly found another 15HP.
I can't wait to see what Adrain-1 can get from his 100whp upgrade to his 8, so far 13.6 is pretty dang nice but I'd love to see low 13's.
I can't wait to see what Adrain-1 can get from his 100whp upgrade to his 8, so far 13.6 is pretty dang nice but I'd love to see low 13's.
01-06-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
Its really not a big difference going from 238, to 232 at the crank. That is like 3whp. Not a huge deal, and still doesn't explain the huge hp loss. I think people are making a bigger deal of this than it really is, and I still don't think this is the true hp figure. Not unless they start dynoing higher for the 06 models.
01-06-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DrKillJoY
From what I understand the AT got some of its significant power bump due to the change in transmission choices.
The old AT were handicapped because they could not take full advantage of the RPM range of the Renesis.
The old AT were handicapped because they could not take full advantage of the RPM range of the Renesis.
01-06-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Roaddemon
This car can't be dynoed acurrately for rwhp. There are reports of 175 all the way up to 210 for stock rx8's. Mazda has explained this in news realeases. The dyno is only good for a starting point when tuning for hp increases. My 8 definetly feels stronger than 230 hp and can easily stay with or pull on cars with the same wieght and hp. Maybe some owners just have weak cars.
01-06-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Roaddemon
This car can't be dynoed acurrately for rwhp. There are reports of 175 all the way up to 210 for stock rx8's. Mazda has explained this in news realeases.
The dyno is only good for a starting point when tuning for hp increases. My 8 definetly feels stronger than 230 hp and can easily stay with or pull on cars with the same wieght and hp. Maybe some owners just have weak cars.
01-06-2006, 10:40 AM
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its perfectly normal for dyno numbers to vary by a lot. some dynos are extremely conservative (mustang dyno etc) and some dynos are extremely linient (dyno Jet etc). Its not hard to set up a dyno to yield artificially high results. Ive seen anything from 235whp to 260whp for G35s.
on the rx8 vs s2k thread, its said that rx8 generally dynoed 180-185whp while s2k dynos 200-210whp on the same dyno on the same day under the same conditions. Im sure the new SAE NET rating of 232 crank hp is very accurate under the guidelines of the testing method, however there still shouldnt be such a huge discrepency between the whp of the 2 cars. Something else must be draining a lot of hp between the rx8 engine and its wheels compared to the s2k. But eitherway as everyone has been saying the car isnt any slower or faster compared to previous model years. its just a new rating method.
on the rx8 vs s2k thread, its said that rx8 generally dynoed 180-185whp while s2k dynos 200-210whp on the same dyno on the same day under the same conditions. Im sure the new SAE NET rating of 232 crank hp is very accurate under the guidelines of the testing method, however there still shouldnt be such a huge discrepency between the whp of the 2 cars. Something else must be draining a lot of hp between the rx8 engine and its wheels compared to the s2k. But eitherway as everyone has been saying the car isnt any slower or faster compared to previous model years. its just a new rating method.
01-06-2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Any any links to any of those releases? I'd love to read 'em
On the front straight - at least a 1/2 mile - of a local track, 240hp M3s would 'walk' my supposedly 238hp RX8. I mean, steadily-but-not super-quickly pull away. Weight is similar...Gearing is close.
On the front straight - at least a 1/2 mile - of a local track, 240hp M3s would 'walk' my supposedly 238hp RX8. I mean, steadily-but-not super-quickly pull away. Weight is similar...Gearing is close.
those things can run very low 14 scond 1/4 miles and mid 5 second 0-60.
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01-06-2006, 11:08 AM
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[QUOTE=dmp]Any any links to any of those releases? I'd love to read 'em
Here's one thread https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/does-explain-dyno-problem-46195/ There's more but I can't find them right now.
Here's one thread https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/does-explain-dyno-problem-46195/ There's more but I can't find them right now.
01-06-2006, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DrKillJoY
From what I understand the AT got some of its significant power bump due to the change in transmission choices.
The old AT were handicapped because they could not take full advantage of the RPM range of the Renesis.
The old AT were handicapped because they could not take full advantage of the RPM range of the Renesis.
01-06-2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BunnyGirl
I don't know how they determine based on the new test but a lot of cars lost hp in the new rating system.
01-06-2006, 12:22 PM
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Now I'm thinking, if not for the rx8 safe mode on dynos, turbo rx8's making 240 rwhp are probably making closer to 260 rwhp. Anyone with a turbo can confirm this? Someone on here said they could easily walk EVo's and sti's with his greddy turbo.
