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musicaddikt 02-13-2012 06:25 AM

20w 50 for rx8?
 
I am thinking of changing my oil to 20w 50 mineral silkolene. Here in Malta is moderate climate, what you think??

jasonrxeight 02-13-2012 07:12 AM

try glue
super glue is the best cuz its thick as hell when dry

bse50 02-13-2012 07:59 AM

It's not a smart idea, especially with the stock oil pressure regulator.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 02-13-2012 09:34 AM

^why? In manuals for other countries they recommend 20w50 for certain climates.
I personally use 10w40 myself.

bse50 02-13-2012 09:41 AM

Don't know what manuals you're referring to... the us one says to use crappy 5w20, in europe the recommended viscosities range between 5w30 and 10w30.
I always used a good 10w40, even before changing my oil system's pressure.

Malta is very close to italy, 20w50 is definitely too much both climate and oil system capabilities wise.

rickeo 02-13-2012 10:24 AM

^ The FSM in the US actually says to use 5w20... :O

AZ R3 02-13-2012 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickeo (Post 4188139)
^ The FSM in the US actually says to use 5w20... :O

FSM?

http://www.no37.net/uploads/ImageLadle/FSM.gif

Not only does the manual say 5w20, but you are only supposed to change your oil every 5k miles :D

comebackqid 02-13-2012 11:30 AM

I use 10-40 myself I think if you're in a place where the temp will reach over 37.7 C I don't see anything wrong with running 20-50 I've used it before during the summer months with out any issue I live in southern california so temps in summer will exceed 37.7 C (100 degrees F) so I sometimes run 20-50, but if it's mild there I think 10-30/10-40 should be fine.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 02-13-2012 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4188114)
Don't know what manuals you're referring to... the us one says to use crappy 5w30, in europe the recommended viscosities range between 5w30 and 10w30.
I always used a good 10w40, even before changing my oil system's pressure.

Malta is very close to italy, 20w50 is definitely too much both climate and oil system capabilities wise.

I'll post the pic when I get home, I beileve it's for Australia.

xexok 02-13-2012 12:38 PM

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Is this what you are referring to furry? Couldn't find a better picture than this.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 02-13-2012 01:43 PM

Yeah, that looks like it. I wouldn't listen to the US version.... 5w20 is garbage for rotary. I always used 20w50 in my FC's year round with no issues.
I used 5w30 when I first got mine, but at 300 mile intervals for 900 miles to help get kind of a flush since the original oil looked so bad. After that it's been 10w40 for about 10k miles now.

xexok 02-13-2012 04:18 PM

Yep I have been using 10w40 since I got the car at 18k miles also. Seemed the best choice based on the little chart and from reading on here. Now I am at 37k miles and still running great(knock on wood).

pdxhak 02-13-2012 07:32 PM

That chart say it is ok to use 20w-50 between 0*-120* F?

nguise24 02-13-2012 07:35 PM

you will have better engine life using 20 50, if you use 5 20 like i did it will eat up the seal, and blow your engine eventually like the situation im in.

pdxhak 02-13-2012 07:40 PM

I have been using Castrol full synthetic 20w50 since Dec 2010.

monchie 02-13-2012 08:38 PM

I'm still using 5w-20, the recommended one, no major problem so far.

1.3_LittersOfFurry 02-13-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 4188516)
That chart say it is ok to use 20w-50 between 0*-120* F?

Yes, but if you think it will be that cold I would go with 10w40 or 10w30.

RX8RX7 02-13-2012 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by jasonrxeight (Post 4188056)
try glue
super glue is the best cuz its thick as hell when dry

u mean it's hard as hell when dry ? :yelrotflm


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4188068)
It's not a smart idea, especially with the stock oil pressure regulator.

FC has weaker oil pressure regulator but still survive the 20w50. all year long.


Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 4188111)
^why? In manuals for other countries they recommend 20w50 for certain climates.
I personally use 10w40 myself.

I use 20w50. 15 degrees a month ago. no issue. Well, a GOOD Synthetic 20w50. Not some Autozone junk :lol:

musicaddikt 02-13-2012 11:39 PM

Well I will not use any synthetic or semi syn, absolutely not, it will damage the seals. I will run 10w 30 mineral and see how it will run.

spgcyn 02-14-2012 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by musicaddikt (Post 4188686)
Well I will not use any synthetic or semi syn, absolutely not, it will damage the seals. I will run 10w 30 mineral and see how it will run.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl:

stop spreading shit u know nothing about. god.

ken-x8 02-14-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4188114)
... the us one says to use crappy 5w30...

I'm in the US and my manual says to use good 5w20. :)

Besides that page from the Australian owner's manual, one edition of the shop manual lists all of those oil grades without even specifying temperature ranges. No wonder everyone argues about which to use!

Ken

bse50 02-14-2012 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4188797)
I'm in the US and my manual says to use good 5w20. :)

Besides that page from the Australian owner's manual, one edition of the shop manual lists all of those oil grades without even specifying temperature ranges. No wonder everyone argues about which to use!

Ken

You're right, typo on my side! It's our manual that states to use 5w30 :)

RotaryTherapy 02-14-2012 08:15 AM

http://mcculloughpigott.com/206-larg...rotary-oil.jpg

Aseras 02-14-2012 08:18 PM

In the summer in florida I ran 20W50. 5w20 turns into water. 10w40 even gets thin. had over 110k miles on my 2004 rx8 before that engine was replaced after an accident, still ran awesome and had good compression. Make sure you premix though. the thicker oil doesnt inject nearly as well.

zoom44 02-14-2012 08:40 PM

yeah i dont see any issues and do see some benefits with running 20w50 if the climate is anything like louisiana alabama georgia or florida.


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