I want in on the free posts..........................

RX8 won.

I love a free world.............

40-50hp loss is NORMAL? Dude - that's normal for a 1987 Mustang GT - NOT a car with today's materials AND a CF driveshaft.

I've seen two independent engine dyno's of the stock renesis. Both were about 215hp at the crank. Maz/SAE revised numbers of 232hp is even optimistic.

;)

You guys must of heard it...............Power Is Nothing Without Controll..................and this car has controll!

I am a torque junkie (drive a CTS-V). But I love my sister's RX-8. She just moved back to town so now I get to drive it more. I think it is one of the few remaining sports cars around that hold to the ideal of sports cars. The TT and Z are NOT sports cars. They are shortened sedans masquerading as sports cars. If I could live with such a small car, the 8 would be on my short list.

"You are not your job.
You are not how much you have in the bank.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking Khakis.
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
You are not free posts on RX8club.com
You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of
the world."
-Tyler

Actually, the original rumors and press release from Mazda was 280ps, then it was 250hp in the ads and brochure, then 247 upon release, then 238 after the lawyers told them that was a good number, then it was 232 after the SAE testing.

All the same engine? Same setup as well?

torque can suck it, I'd rather drive an rx-8 than a mustang, and the TT is a massacre to the leg to drive, AND GOD DAM YOU GIVE ME SOME SPACE TO PUT MY STUFF!!!

no i completely agree, after driving all those cars i get the most enjoyment out of the Rx8. I went and drove the new Z yesterday and i couldn't wait to leave and go drive my car.

Yes

Should be around 220 at the flywheel too, 232 is bs

you forgot to say that we now all know it actually makes 215 hp .

So we went from 280 to 215 and yet we STILL love the car .

my 8 has 17k. i ran a 14.87 94.5 trap speed last week at infineon (about 58 degrees F). i ran against a shitty wrx driver and beat him. hope this makes you feel better.

Why would it make people feel better when the WRX is rated less than the RX-8, weighs more, has AWD drivetrain loss, and usually is about as fast or faster depending on MY (and is certainly quicker than the RX-8).

Sorry to go off topic, but whatever happened to the RX-7? I remember reading a couple years ago that they were going to bring it back to sell concurrently with the 8. It was to be similiar to the 8, but no back seat (?) more aggressive suspension and a turbo option. I guess that is not going to happen.

There are many factors that can change the output of the motor.

In Europe it was rated at 228 hp. Probably a bit more realistic, even then it might be a bt high. In SAE certified tests it ranat 232 hp at the crank, which must mean something in the driveline is junky & killing the output.

im confused. i don't know what you're saying here, but you did say that the wrx should be faster. so, an rx-8 beating a wrx ON THE STRIP should make a couple of rx-8 owners smile.