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DarkBrew 10-22-2010 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Lessa (Post 3757924)
I love my rx8.
can u tell me how cost to u rebuild ur engine ? also phone# of Mazda's rebuild facility in Virginia.
thanks.

Hi
First, please to introduce yourself and give a history of the car
Model year, mileage, maintenance etc.
Next, you should make sure that you search to see if this has been covered somewhere.
Last, you should start a thread for this if necessary.

another mazda RX8 fraud victim 10-22-2010 07:27 PM

I would also be intersted in knowing how to identify where your remanufactured engine came from.

Obviously if the Virginia plant does a better job that is where I want to make certain that my engine comes from.

Does anyone have any contact info and insight on how to identify where an engine came from?

Also what other components have been damaged and need to be changed with the engine block itself? I would think that the catalytic converter needs to be changed from damage also?

What version of software needs to be on the PCM when the new engine is installed to give the new engine the correct amount of oil?

Also what is the formula and frequency for the premix being mentioned?

Thanks.

DarkBrew 10-22-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by another mazda RX8 fraud victim (Post 3758876)
I would also be intersted in knowing how to identify where your remanufactured engine came from.

Obviously if the Virginia plant does a better job that is where I want to make certain that my engine comes from.

Does anyone have any contact info and insight on how to identify where an engine came from?

Also what other components have been damaged and need to be changed with the engine block itself? I would think that the catalytic converter needs to be changed from damage also?

What version of software needs to be on the PCM when the new engine is installed to give the new engine the correct amount of oil?

Also what is the formula and frequency for the premix being mentioned?

Thanks.

That's a lot of questions. I'll answer the ones I can

PCM information is a sticky in https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-performance-21/

You'll have to search the pre-mix threads. It's been discussed almost as much as which oil to use.
Read up on using seafoam to de-carbon your engine.
And learn about the benefits of getting a Cobb access port from MazdaManiac

Understanding this unique engine will help you enjoy years of trouble free operation

yiksing 10-22-2010 08:42 PM

@OP Just be thankful you live in the USA.

ShellDude 10-22-2010 08:54 PM

this thread hurts my feeble brain

2tone 10-23-2010 10:32 AM

omg, go away dude. you're getting your engine fixed under warranty. why on earth did you think you'd get a brand new one??

they'll fix it under warranty...and guess what...you'll still be under warranty! what a crazy thought that is.

get your "shitty" reman'd engine and sell it so we don't have to deal with your whining anymore.

by the way, failed engines are by far in the minority, so calm down on the class-action bullshit. if you had an rx7, you knew rotary engines can have issues, so stop playing the naive innocent victim. idiot.

ken-x8 10-23-2010 11:13 AM


you're getting your engine fixed under warranty. why on earth did you think you'd get a brand new one
He's not just getting his engine fixed. He's getting a rebuilt one. That's a lot better than what happens with conventional engines, where the dealer will open up the old one and just overhaul it.

Ken

RotaryBoi 10-23-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 3756609)
Did mazda ever actually claim that if your engine fails they will give you a brand spanking new engine? I thought they just said that they would replace the engines.

Typically if an engine covered under warranty fails, the manufacturer (or private extended warranty company) will replace the motor with a re-manufactured motor that previously had the same amount of miles as yours OR LESS. Also, Re-Manufactured doesn't always mean it totally failed previously. They can be bought out of a used/salvage vehicle, cleaned up, replace gaskets/wear-items, and tested to ensure it meets the same quality specs as a re-manufactured engine. This is exactly what happened with my 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix. The ONLY time I PERSONALLY might expect a NEW motor, is if it failed within a few thousand mikes from new.

Dude, get over yourself! Take the re-man'd motor and sell the Rex!

ken-x8 10-23-2010 12:23 PM


They can be bought out of a used/salvage vehicle, cleaned up, replace gaskets/wear-items, and tested to ensure it meets the same quality specs as a re-manufactured engine.
Remanufactured should mean the same thing as rebuilt: torn down completely, everything machined and/or re-fitted to new engine specs, and reassembled. As opposed to overhauled, where broken parts and one-time parts like gaskets are replaced and the fit criterion is within wear limits.

For auto engines the mileage of the core should not matter, as long as they test for cracks and don't have to machine beyond max limits.

Ken

RotaryBoi 10-23-2010 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 3759224)
Remanufactured should mean the same thing as rebuilt: torn down completely, everything machined and/or re-fitted to new engine specs, and reassembled. As opposed to overhauled, where broken parts and one-time parts like gaskets are replaced and the fit criterion is within wear limits.

I totally agree with you on this. It **should** mean rebuilt. But according to GM, as long at it meets the same quality standards, and passes all the testing, they have the option to use a "used" motor instead.


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 3759224)
For auto engines the mileage of the core should not matter, as long as they test for cracks and don't have to machine beyond max limits.

Also agreed. But like I said, this was my experience with GM...

Jedi54 10-23-2010 12:46 PM

I can't even take this thread seriously with the ridiculous user name of the OP.

:rolleyes:

Razz1 10-23-2010 02:42 PM

ha ha that's funny!

VashGS 10-23-2010 06:02 PM

Take the warranty engine it's as good or better. It's not "fraud". Good luck.

CyberPitz 10-23-2010 06:30 PM

I knew Mazda was screwing me when they sold me this engine! I should file for that class action lawsuit. How dare they sell me a motor that is going to die right away!

Wait, I'm on the original motor still.

Pardon me!

I've never thought I'd see the day that someone is bitching about getting a rebuilt engine.

expo1 10-23-2010 06:47 PM

With the series I engine out of production for two years are there any "NEW" ones to be had anyway?

Sephitrask 10-23-2010 11:11 PM

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ken-x8 10-24-2010 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryBoi (Post 3759228)
I totally agree with you on this. It **should** mean rebuilt. But according to GM, as long at it meets the same quality standards, and passes all the testing, they have the option to use a "used" motor instead...

So the replacement is a good used engine with the same or less mileage? And it passes compression test, etc?

If that's GM's policy and that's what they state in the warranty, then that's what it is. The purpose of a warranty is to keep you whole, not restore you to new. I think a lot of warranties say something about replacing with "new or used."

Ken

mkmike103 10-24-2010 11:53 AM

I think im with the majority here. I'm sure you're frustrated that you have a bad engine... I would be too. But its covered under the warranty, you are entitled to a replacement. What is the problem? If you don't like the car, or don't want to deal with any headaches, then get it fixed under warranty and sell it.

nycgps 10-24-2010 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by expo1 (Post 3759468)
With the series I engine out of production for two years are there any "NEW" ones to be had anyway?

You can still order new engine from Hiroshima. But it's going to cost at least 6k shipped to NYC and the quality will not be as good as a custom rebuild with everything cut to exact spec. Plus a custom build engine will cost about the same as buying new from Mazda so why bother.

Even when they stop making preassembled engine one day, you will still be able to get the parts, consider I can still get parts for 13b desi now, don't worry


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