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Old 08-21-2006, 05:28 PM
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$18 consumer reports faq on this car.

Just figured I wouldnt hog the info.... it has all the pricing for factory purchases. Its in the new buyers guide, but i figured not everyone visits there.


Hope this info is interesting to someone... it will save me a few $k.
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huh?
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for $18 bucks you can get every last bit of info on this car, including what the dealer payed for the car, what acessories really cost, stats, .... Helps when buying a new car cause you can get a beter deal.
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Not to highjack your thread but that source is also recommended on carbuyingtips.com


just thought i'd add to it. my friend dug up what the dealer was paying on the above-mentioned site and the salesman was so pissed that he had to let the car go for little above what they pay for it. Good find!
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...and for free you can go to KBB.COM and get the same dealer invoice prices.
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edmonds (and a whole host of other sites) will tell you the same thing for free
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And remember that most dealers get a kickback from the invoice price. Figure on 2 to 3 percent, so if you get it at invoice price, they still make a little money. I bought a base model that invoices at 24458. So they may get 500 or more back after the sale and true invoice might be 24000 or less. They have to make some money on the deal so say 24458 minus the incentive of 1500 and if you went MAC another 500, you might be able to walk out the door paying 22458 for a car with an MSRP of 26435 (Edmunds). That leave your trade-in. Get the price you want first, then add the trade-in and know what it is worth. All of the websites said mine was worth about 13500 and the dealers in my area all wanted to give me 12000 to 12500 for it, the lowest being Carmax. After all of the haggling with the new car and trade-in, I got my final price down to 22500 after incentives then asked for extras at the end to seal the deal. I got the spoiler but they wouldn't throw in the tint.

If you can't get it for invoice price, then try another dealer.
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The only time a salesman or dealership does not make money on the deal is when they 'choose' not to. That typically only happens when the vehicle being sold is something that no one wants to buy. I guarantee that if you take that little report into a dealer to buy a Saturn Sky they will laugh you right out of the showroom. The RX8 is a dog and no one wants them in their showroom. It's the combination of the report and a slow moving brand that makes the deal.......not the report alone. The dealer can always say 'NO'....they don't have to sell at break-even just because you have a piece of paper in your hand.
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Originally Posted by hoosier
And remember that most dealers get a kickback from the invoice price. Figure on 2 to 3 percent, so if you get it at invoice price, they still make a little money. I bought a base ...

Ya if you had read the report that I posted, it shows all the benefits the dealers get, such as kickbacks....
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by kick back do you mean "hold back"? some car companies don't do hold backs...

Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Land Rover, MINI, Porsche and Scion don't. The rest have between 1-3% hold back values.

I dunno if it's worth buying the 18 dollar thing though when you can go to KBB and subtract the hold back value of your car yourself.
holdback values by company.
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Ya thats what I ment. I did post all that info in the New car buyers / financing section. I just wanted a more complete price listing of what the dealer pays for it all, including parts... And hold back was what I ment.
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