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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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what pricing are you getting for 2005 RX8's?

There appear to be no current incentives for 2005 RX8's except $1000 off for what have to be the worst lease deals on the planet (way too high payment relative to the purchase cost)

despite this a local stealer is offering me slightly below S-Plan for a 2005 base no option 6 spd, approx. $2100 below MSRP. With the current gas prices I suspect at least some people will be leary of purchasing a gasoholic rotary engine and the RX8 will start stacking up on the lots.

This seems high compared to what some people have paid in the past. So I was curious to know what kind of deals people may be geting on 2005 RX8s?

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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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I got mine for more than $3000 under MSRP back in January
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Why dont you get an 04? There are some good deals on those.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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a local dealer quoting 800 under invoice
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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that's about the same deal, the S-plan is something like 6 or 7 hundred below invoice
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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S-plan is only about $20 below invoice.

Check your figures, S-Plan has a little asterisk that says "plus destination charges", whereas most of the time they show invoice-prices with the destination charge included.

When you add-in the destination charges, S-plan is almost the same as invoice.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kraeji
Why dont you get an 04? There are some good deals on those.
I just picked up my 2004 RX-8 with 5k miles... fully loaded with everything but Navi for about $23.5k out the door. Car was $35k in November when it was purchased... guy traded it in (couldn't afford the payments), so I scooped it up at a nice price.

FWIW, I used Autotrader.com to find a bunch of 2004 RX-8's and called around to about 6 dealerships until I found what I wanted.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Yeah, I have been having a problem with locating a good RX8. I visited 2 dealerships and took a look at two cars. No luck so far. I am considering one of the cars, but not sure if the dealer will go for what I can offer.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kenbob
S-plan is only about $20 below invoice.

Check your figures, S-Plan has a little asterisk that says "plus destination charges", whereas most of the time they show invoice-prices with the destination charge included.

When you add-in the destination charges, S-plan is almost the same as invoice.

that's only if you actually get the S-plan, he was quoted below S-Plan and my comment was in reference to his mention of it i.e., they were quoted about the same deal
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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I just got an offer in the mail yesterday from my dealership for up to $4000 off a 2005 Mazda, including RX-8, and 3.9% for up to 60 months. The offer is for current Mazda owners only. It's tempting, but I don't know if it would be worth it or not. My RX-8 spent alot of time in the shop in the beginning for small stuff, and I just now got most of the kinks worked out. Are the 2005's any more fuel efficient?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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carsdirect is showing $100 over/under invoice depending on the ZIP code I use. Some areas (ZIPs) may show a higher or lower price.

These are pre-negotiated no haggle prices, but the dealer may tack on a "doc" fee on top of the price. But still not bad for 0 work.

There is a $2k lease incentive if you lease via MAC, but the residual is poor and the money factor is high - so that is not really a good deal, but it does get you the car for $2k under cost.

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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The invoice isnt really the dealers actual net cost. No matter what they tell you they arent losing money by selling cars for $100 under invoice. They just know that customers all want to know the invoice price nowadays, and so they have adjusted their selling strategies accordingly.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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The invoice isnt really the dealers actual net cost. No matter what they tell you they arent losing money by selling cars for $100 under invoice. They just know that customers all want to know the invoice price nowadays, and so they have adjusted their selling strategies accordingly.
That IS the actual cost, less hold back (2% of base MSRP on an 8) and any dealer incentives. Now on an 8 the hold back is a decent number (not as good as brands with 3% of full MSRP, though) and for sure should be enough profit for most dealers to sell at or below invoice and still stay in business.

Of course they will want to add dealer or "doc" fees to the deal, and the majority of buyers will have a trade - and the trade lets the dealer make back lots of profit they gave up making someone a "below invoice" deal.

I am helping a guy get an Accord for his family - he thought $300 under published invoice was a good deal (including dealer fees). UNTIL I told him Honda has a dealer incentive this month of $200-750 per Accord sold. I put him in touch with a high-volume dealer and he is getting the same car for over $700 less. He is happy, and now is a better informed buyer :D

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Of course they will want to add dealer or "doc" fees to the deal, and the majority of buyers will have a trade - and the trade lets the dealer make back lots of profit they gave up making someone a "below invoice" deal.
This is why you don't mention the trade until the final numbers have been written down.

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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I just came home with a 2005 base model for 23,988 - $500 gerber
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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wow, a whole g under
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mx5racer
I just came home with a 2005 base model for 23,988 - $500 gerber

6- speed = 2k under :D

Last edited by mx5racer; Apr 25, 2005 at 06:36 PM.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Anyone get a good price in the Great White North?
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mx5racer
I just came home with a 2005 base model for 23,988 - $500 gerber

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mx5racer
I just came home with a 2005 base model for 23,988 - $500 gerber
I am guessing an AT car for this price?

Either that or you had a trade in that you didn't get enough for.

I (personally) would not want a base car - for sure a base AT car. The sports pack adds HID headlights, stability and traction control, LSD, lower profile tires, larger rims, fogs, larger brakes, better suspension. A lot to NOT get to save $1,700 or so on at AT car. Even on the 6mt the sports pack should the minimum anyone would get.

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dwynne
I am guessing an AT car for this price?

Either that or you had a trade in that you didn't get enough for.

Dennis
6- speed - paid cash - no trade in
It was advertised in the paper at one dealer and I had another
match it.
I had a sport package on order but I couldn't wait the 10 weeks
Everything in California is either base or GT
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Don't see how they could do that. No known incentives on 05s other than $2k lease incentives. Invoice shows $25,638 and hold back is about $544. Don't see how (or why) they would sell you a car and lose over $1k on the deal.....

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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Back in the saddle. Just got back to town with my clone VRed (see signature). $35,694 (MSRP) + $249 (dick fee)= $35,943.

Paid $32,559 (S-Plan) + $249 (Dick Fee) = $32,808

Invoice is $32, 585. So S-Plan is $26 below invoice. Whooppeee!

Total savings $3135. Without the haggling bs.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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What I said is that invoice price is not the actual NET cost to the dealers. They aren't selling cars below their actual cost when they sell them at $100 below invoice even though they might tell you they are.

I totally believe the price MX5racer got. Every week a local dealer here in Portland, Oregon advertises every 2005 RX-8 in stock at 3500 off MSRP, so thats $4k off with Gerber.

Last edited by Buffalo66; Apr 26, 2005 at 04:49 AM.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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Just beware and keep your wits when dealing... this is how it starts out and ends if you let it happen....just a reminder, its your money their after.
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