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Old 06-29-2004, 06:19 PM
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help - i need advice and quick on this deal.

ok, so some of you might remember i was here a week or 2 ago talking about getting a rx8, and i finally went to check it out today, with the possibility of buying. basically, i only want stick, and either titanium grey, or in black, i went to a dealership and all they had new in those 2 colors were automatics, but they had 1 demo

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grand touring package, black w/brown 2tone leather
4,500 miles

they told me $30,000 out the door, thats including tax and a new tag, the final cost came out to like $27,750, but with tax and such it came out to $30,600, we told them that our limit is $30,000, and we have until tomorrow night to take it,

the car is basically brand new, the owner drove it, it will have a full warranty from the day it is bought. basically, is this a good price, for those of you who have bought a 6spd with the grand touring package, taking tax and such into consideration,thanks again for the help and input.

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Edmunds says:

6MT invoice = $24,659
GT = $3,441

If you get it at $27,700, you may as well buy a new one for $300 more.

Bad deal. I wouldn't even consider it unless they drop the price down to $25,000 range, especially since the 2004 line is almost done with.

Also, check the build date. If the car was made before December 2003, you may have additional problems.
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I think you can do better! Call the next dealer close to you ask him how much for same mod & equip. (Black is hardest to sell in hot areas) I would want to brake it in myself, eng,trans,brakes, everything. You know that "DEMO" has been red lined by everybody that drove it. You will do better! Look around.....
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well youre saying 27,700 is invoice, but is anyone selling for invoice? they are selling msrp at like $26,500, and the package goes for $4,000, add tax and youre atl ike $33,000 or so, this is $30,000 out the door, and it was driven by the owner of the dealership for a month and a half, it wasnt a test driver.
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bad deal.... i got mine new 14 miles same package for 31 out the door in black
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I got my car below invoice so yeah I think u can do better~
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anyone in south florida? btw im not driving 400 miles to get a new car, im talkin west palm and south.
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Originally posted by fliggil
well youre saying 27,700 is invoice, but is anyone selling for invoice? they are selling msrp at like $26,500, and the package goes for $4,000, add tax and youre atl ike $33,000 or so, this is $30,000 out the door, and it was driven by the owner of the dealership for a month and a half, it wasnt a test driver.
Here is the invoice for my car:
http://tyrannical.org/rx8/index2.html

MSRP is $32,680. Then you have to add in $500 for dest.

I bought it at dealer invoice. Almost everyone here has been getting them at invoice these days. Only the first few months did people pay full MSRP.

Tell the dealer you want a better deal or you'll go to a dealership who will offer you invoice.

Just so you know, I contacted the online sales person at my local dealership, her FIRST offer on the car was invoice. I didn't even haggle or say anything.

My car had 7 miles on the obo when I picked it up.
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the owner did not put on 4500 miles in a month and a half. when did that car first hit the dealership? what is it's build date?
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With 4500 miles, it is a used car and should be priced as such.
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Keep looking, don't feel pressured to get into this deal. And I really doubt this car being the owners, that's another name they have at the dealership for a demo.
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Try Gunther in Ft. Lauderdale & Fairbanks in Orlando...either one should be able to give you a great deal without even trying, especially Fairbanks..........call them before driving to Orlando.
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You can get it at invoice virtually anywhere in the united states. You shouldn't have to drive to Orlando to get it.
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thats a really bad price for a used rx-8 ...
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Originally posted by fliggil
well youre saying 27,700 is invoice, but is anyone selling for invoice? they are selling msrp at like $26,500, and the package goes for $4,000, add tax and youre atl ike $33,000 or so, this is $30,000 out the door, and it was driven by the owner of the dealership for a month and a half, it wasnt a test driver.
You're a dealers dream. You seem too eager to have the car, and are willing to buy into their scam. I wouldn't touch the car. As previously said, it's a demo... which is to say it was redlined by lots of different drivers. Of course they will tell you the owner drove it. But, that's usually only once a week commute along with all the other demo's. While at work, what do you think its used for?

If it's a must have, offer him 23,000 and watch them turn you away. Expect it. It's quite likely they'll let you sit for a week... and then they'll call you - asking if you're still interested. They'll see if you'll bite again at 30,000. But, when you hold firm... they will say let me call you back. It's a test. Often, they'll just call back shortly and take your deal. Why not? It's a used car and they need to dump it before the new model year.
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thanks for all the advice, i didnt realize it was this easy to get invoice now, ill definatley let them know tomoro thats just way too much.
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I'm glad you see the light - the RX-8 is a great car, and you can get great prices on it right now. You shouldn't have to pay brand new car prices on a beaten up demo.
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Walk away. There are tons of RX-8s sitting on lots around the country. Better to find one new at invoice somwhere else and pay $500 to have it shipped to your location.

4,500 miles is a ton, and they were probably hard miles. "Sure, drive the $#!+ out of it, Hal. We'll find some sucker to buy it for close to invoice once you're through. Ha ha ha..."

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wow, i just got in touch with marlin mazda, they said id be looking in the $25-$27k range for a brand new 6spd with regular touring package (what iw ant anyways), cant believe how they were ripping me at the other place, $27.8 with 4500 miles and leather. awful.
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There you go. Keep looking you have control now. You have to understand they will try anything they think they can get away with to put more money in their pockets! Unless you are buying a real hard to get car you can get it for $300 to $1000 over there cost....
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Originally posted by Kagero
There you go. Keep looking you have control now. You have to understand they will try anything they think they can get away with to put more money in their pockets! Unless you are buying a real hard to get car you can get it for $300 to $1000 over there cost....

This is true. It's their job to get as much money out of you as possible. Some people go into a dealer and say "Is this as low as you can go" and leave it at that. You have to have them play YOUR game not theirs and thats when you'll get a good deal.
good luck.
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Any takers on my base six speed red 1300 miles at $22900 cash.
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