Notices
Purchasing, Financing, & Insurance Talk about dealerships, your order status, delivery experience, ordering options, financing/leasing, insurance deals, etc.

This Guy is crazy!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 11-16-2004, 05:33 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Skinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This Guy is crazy!!!

This really bothers me but it is something I have to do! I went to a dealership today to trade my 04 lightning yellow RX8, GT package, rear wing. The guy totally insulted me by only offering me 21K for a car that only has 740 miles on it. yes that is what I said 740 miles. I need a truck. What do you guys think a fair price would be? I told him to **** himself because there is no way, my car has lost $11,000 of value in less than a year. I would like to sell it to someone that would appreciate it but i dont know what to ask for it. Please be fair! I really wanted to smack this guy! Thanks for all the help.
Old 11-16-2004, 05:44 PM
  #2  
Wannabe Guru
 
Murray16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey... they gotta try to make money off of the trade. A private sale would be the way to go for a basically brand new car.
Old 11-16-2004, 05:46 PM
  #3  
Hi
 
RotaryNoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From Kelley Blue Book www.kbb.com

Private Party Value : $26,745
Trade-In Value : $23,175

Thats in my zip code. Check your own yourself. Also check www.autotrader.com and see what similar cars are selling for. Don't be so damn lazy.
Old 11-16-2004, 05:55 PM
  #4  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
I would suggest finding out what a brand new 2004 can be bought for, then taking 1-2 thousand off that price to get a decent number to work with.

I've heard people are able to get a 2004 for 3,000 under dealer invoice... but not everyone is aware of that, and your car is basically brand new. I'd suggest trying to sell it locally for 2k under dealer invoice as a starting point.
Old 11-16-2004, 05:59 PM
  #5  
Follower of CHRIST!!!!!!!
 
rx8wannahave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 3,241
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah, I think you would probably be able to get $24,000 for it...just my opinion, maybe $26,000 to someone that loves the car and aint to bright...LOL

GOOD LUCK!
Old 11-16-2004, 06:05 PM
  #6  
Mmmmm... Rotary Donut
 
G8rboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL (NW Chicago Burbs)
Posts: 2,376
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
You're not going to get anywhere near the value for your car at a dealer... it just won't happen. You also have a few other things going against you too, unfortunately. There are still '04's at dealer lots that are being blown out way below invoice, and yellow is a color dealers might shy away from (being hard to sell). I think the yellow RX8 is awesome... so don't take that personally. With such low miles, you should be able to sell it to private buyer for at least $25k if it's still in new condition. I wish I had room for another : ).

Good luck...
Old 11-16-2004, 06:15 PM
  #7  
"...I'm a Dapper Dan man"
 
Rotary Nut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Newport News, Va
Posts: 840
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Question

Originally Posted by Skinny
This really bothers me but it is something I have to do! I went to a dealership today to trade my 04 lightning yellow RX8, GT package, rear wing. The guy totally insulted me by only offering me 21K for a car that only has 740 miles on it. yes that is what I said 740 miles. I need a truck. What do you guys think a fair price would be? I told him to **** himself because there is no way, my car has lost $11,000 of value in less than a year. I would like to sell it to someone that would appreciate it but i dont know what to ask for it. Please be fair! I really wanted to smack this guy! Thanks for all the help.

Dammmmnnnnnn!

I got $22500 for my silver AT W/ sport pkg with 9100 miles on it. I'd walk away from that dealer!
Old 11-16-2004, 06:17 PM
  #8  
Giant Space Hamster
 
quack_p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
After 740 miles, you realized you need a truck? Can I just say: "D'OH!" While you're slapping the dealer in the face, slap yourself, too!

Last edited by quack_p; 11-16-2004 at 06:20 PM.
Old 11-16-2004, 07:01 PM
  #9  
<p><
 
downshift's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 693
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you could wait, sell the yellow RX-8 next Spring. By that time, all the 04's would be sold out and the yellow RX-8 should become more valuable since they no longer come with that color on the 05's.
Old 11-16-2004, 07:29 PM
  #10  
Registered
 
Icemastr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Redmond, WA
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rotary Nut
Dammmmnnnnnn!

I got $22500 for my silver AT W/ sport pkg with 9100 miles on it. I'd walk away from that dealer!
Yeah but did you buy your new car at invoice?

Dealers are commonly selling RX8 GT's for $1000 below invoice, so $27,620 plus there are some incentives out there. Figuring you could buy a brand new one for $27,000 $25,000 would be a fair price to sell it on their lot, and it probably wouldn't even move that quickly. Sorry but if the car is registered in your name, its not new anymore even if it only has 720 miles so that hurts the value a bit. So you are mad they are trying to buy your car low enough that they can sell it to make $3-$4,000 profit? Keep fighting the good fight their buddy! Maybe if they rip you a new one on the car you buy (make $5000 profit on it) they will give you $23,000 for your trade to make you happy.

Last edited by Icemastr; 11-16-2004 at 07:33 PM.
Old 11-16-2004, 07:54 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
jsh1120's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm shocked, truly shocked that an auto dealer would attempt to profit from someone who purchased an RX-8 when he really needed a truck. Considering that dealers' prime responsibility is to make up for customers' mistakes in their purchases, I don't blame you for feeling badly treated. Considering that new 2004 RX-8's with the GT package routinely sell for $27K (in the Pacific Northwest, at least), I'd think he would have offered you at least what you paid for it and absorb the loss.

As others have noted, find out what a new 2004 is selling for in your area, subtract a few thousand to make it worthwhile to deal with you rather than a dealer and sell the car. Next time, don't mistake a sports car for a truck.
Old 11-16-2004, 08:33 PM
  #12  
Giant Space Hamster
 
quack_p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Icemastr
Dealers are commonly selling RX8 GT's for $1000 below invoice, so $27,620 plus there are some incentives out there.
More like $3,000 below invoice right now. kbb.com says trade-in value is $23,275, private party value is $26,860. Hmmm, kbb.com obviously isn't aware that you have a good chance of getting this car new for $26,000.

Here's what I'd do -- I'd advertise the car at $27,360 OBO, come down to $26,860 and tell the buyer this is Blue Book value, and be ready to come down to $25,000 if you can't afford to wait. There's no way I'd pay more than $25,000 but I probably know a little more about the pricing than the average buyer (thanks to the RX-8 Club!).

Last edited by quack_p; 11-16-2004 at 11:52 PM.
Old 11-16-2004, 08:44 PM
  #13  
Insanely Yellow
 
StewC625's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buffalo Grove IL
Posts: 2,093
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. He obviously wasn't willing to pay what you wanted. Keep shopping for another buyer.
Old 11-16-2004, 11:16 PM
  #14  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Skinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for all the replies! I knew I was gonna take some heat. I bought the car because I think it looks and drives great just like everyone else on here. I just feel that the RX8 is a great car and that it would hold its value alittle better. The sad part is my job is driven by the airline industry. We all know how bad it is (USairways in Pittsburgh) I had originally intended for this to be my summer toy that I could add all the performance accessories,rims and etc.... Now my job is not as secure as it once was. I have had the car for awhile not like I bought it yesterday and today decided I needed a truck, Job is changing, life is changing. I just thought I would ask everyone what they thought I should do. I take it the thing to do is wait until spring. Thanks for all the help
Old 11-16-2004, 11:57 PM
  #15  
Giant Space Hamster
 
quack_p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Skinny
Thanks for all the replies! I knew I was gonna take some heat.

Now my job is not as secure as it once was.
You're such a good sport! People can be nasty around here. Sorry to hear about your job. Don't worry, I'm sure you won't have any problems selling your car for a much better price than what that dealer was offering. Now might be a hard time to sell since the city is getting ready to freeze over and since there's probably still new 04's on the lot.
Old 11-17-2004, 12:01 AM
  #16  
⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠
 
mysql101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 8,625
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
soon as they get rid of all the 2004's on the lots, if you keep your car at 700 miles, you'll be the closest thing anyone can get to a brand new rx-8 in yellow

your color choice is the best decision you made for the rx-8.
Old 11-18-2004, 11:09 AM
  #17  
Registered User
 
dvarapala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Aztlan
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Originally Posted by Skinny
This really bothers me but it is something I have to do! I went to a dealership today to trade my 04 lightning yellow RX8, GT package, rear wing. The guy totally insulted me by only offering me 21K for a car that only has 740 miles on it. yes that is what I said 740 miles. I need a truck.
Does your car have the nav system? If so, I'll trade you even-up for my 2003 Tacoma. :D
Old 11-18-2004, 11:20 AM
  #18  
Registered User
 
Rxdriftingaction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
dude .. milliage doesn't equal condition.!! but I beileve U keep ur car nice..!!! unfortunate..U are not in CA.... my friend looking for a car..!!! and he also want to get a 8..!!! sad....
Old 11-19-2004, 12:12 AM
  #19  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Skinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pittsburgh,PA
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry no nav! I bought the car and was working like crazy and didnt have time, plus it has rained almost everyday. Car has been in a heated garage since I got it, seen rain once. I even kept the paper floor mats that the dealer puts in it when I bought it. I looked on autotrader and there must be tons of other people out that dont know, that you can get a left over for so cheap. Lost count of how many are over $29,000 that have close to 10k miles on them if not more. Someone must be paying these prices. I guess I will hold on to it until spring and try to sell it myself.
Old 11-19-2004, 07:38 AM
  #20  
Registered User
 
jsh1120's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Remember that the prices in AutoTrader are asking prices, not selling prices. In my experience the prices in AutoTrader are about 10%-15% higher than actual selling prices. Call it the "my s**t don't stink" premium that most people apply to their own cars when they're trying to sell them.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gwailo
New Member Forum
30
06-07-2020 12:21 PM
Randolph Alvarez
New Member Forum
5
05-30-2016 01:08 AM
nowakm99
Series II Technical and Trouble shooting
1
10-09-2015 07:10 AM
Tsurugi
New Member Forum
0
09-07-2015 08:27 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: This Guy is crazy!!!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:46 PM.