Mazurfer

Of course I realize that English may be the 2nd language for many(or at least a few) people on this forum. I know we all get lazy from time to time, but one should be able to construct a coherent sentence part of the time. I'm old and crabby when it get's late in the evening Linda, but I can still tell when people don't have a clue as well.
I'd prefer not to see our Country become full of nothing but 2nd class wage earners working at the local Taco Bell or Wendys. (Not that there is anything wrong with that).
I'm done.............I'll try to let it just slide off from now on.

05TiGr8Lady

Dave, we could go in all kinds of directions here and I could write a book...especially when it comes to our country.. but I won't... In terms of the written word though, I think it will be much more affected by the use of text messaging and Blackberry-type devices. Life is moving just too fast to take the time to be "proper". If I recall, the median age on this forum is early 20's - same age as my daughter and her friends - and they tell me to "get over it" all the time (re: internet speak, spelling and grammar errors, etc.). It just makes me feel old... but then - I AM!

FYI - I reacted to what you said because I feel protective of my peeps in the NW Forum They are very cool - all of them - regardless of their ability to write, spell or pass an English class.

Mazurfer

I can relate on all points.
I tend to over-react on some posts and I was going to come back and delete my response to yours, but then I saw what you wrote. So.......... No worries!
I've just had to spend the better part of 30+ years in the corporate world having to deal with the Jeff Spacoli(sp?) dumb surfer stereotype, so you'd think I'd know better. Sometimes it has the opposite effect............kind of like ex-smokers being worse than non-smokers, you know what I mean? Anyway, I have two daughters in their mid-twenties so I know the drill. Any time you want a book, just let me know!

05TiGr8Lady

LOL, thanks... er... ah... I mean no thanks!

crafted_soul

I'm so lazy to read all the posts and respond accordingly. lol...but I just wanna throw in my 2 cents....
My warning light comes on whenever the weather gets really cold or cold and wet and it goes away when I drive around for a while. I figure it probably has to do with temperature ...or maybe the interference in the air when it gets dense..... maybe I don't even know what I'm talking about...hahaha....but i just decide to leave it alone since it only happens when it gets really cold and it always goes off on it's own eventually. I do check the tire pressure every now and then though.

and to the dude who's picking on mis-spellers..... give it a rest, dude! nobody cares!...lol

kristopher_d

I try to let spelling and grammar slide on forums 'cause it's just not worth the fight. But in e-mail and other more formal correspondence, I do feel there's no excuse. Thanks, Linda, for ascribing it to age. Now I have to feel old too.

crafted_soul, when your light comes on and it's cold out, get your tires up to pressure. It goes out when the tire heats up, but you're running hot pressures that are more in line with cold pressures. A few PSI do to weather may not seem like much, but I've been known to adjust a single tire by as little as half a pound to make the car handle the way I want. With low pressure, your tires will be squishy and steering just a tad more sluggish. With I high pressures, of course, you'll just be skittering over the road. However, keeping the tires within a pound of 32 PSI COLD will yield the best results for most drivers. You can make adjustments as you figure out what they do, if you care to be that ****. I used to run an extra half pound on the drivers side, and an extra pound in the rear. I've got the tires equalized for now, until I sort out what the new sway bars actually did to the handling.

Mazurfer

I'm in that same boat right now....figuring out what effect the RB sways did to my handling, and adjusting as needed for personal taste.
Everything you said was right on the mark and I agree.
In terms of spelling and what-not(then I hope we ALL let it go). I only get frustrated when people ask a question(or attempt to ask a question), but don't take the time to convey properly due to poor spelling and/or grammar. That to me is just being lazy.........it's these same folks that are too lazy to search or even read the manual, however they want instant results from everyone else. My two cents....I'll shut-up now.

Oh.............and it wasn't exclusive to this thread at all. It was more than likely a couple of threads/questions I ran into that night. My bad, I admit it......BFD.

Mazurfer

That depends..............I have one I'd send you for very little or perhaps just for shipping Ray, if you just need one??????
If you wish to buy a new one or more, I would say...........Rosenthalmazda and get one from Tommy(He's a member here and vendor). He had the best price I found at $69.95. Anyway, there are two different grommets and I would recommend you get the latest one!

Here is the thread and has the pics of both new and old. It also has Tommy's info at Rosenthal.

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/tpms-gasket-114960/

Crap, I just found the direct link to Roesenthal and the sensor:

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...n&key=RX081038


Dave

Mazurfer

Ray......nuttin I really need at the moment. Still sitting on the trigger on the SC. Might need help or advice if I don't have Cam do the install down there, but they will be moving soon.
By the way.........we can't have you driving around with a busted valve stem, so if you wanna PM me your info, I'll be glad to send it out to you. BTW......it doesn't have the grommet on it, but I think yours is okay based on what you said. I might throw one on there that worked for me, as I have quite a few laying around now after my fiasco!
I'm sure over time that you will return the favor in some manner, so I'm not worried about that.

BunnyGirl

Guess I have to join the "old" club then, too. I spend all day at work dealing with punctuation, grammar, spelling, et cetera, so I get extremely irritated when I keep encountering it wrong. Of course, random typos I let slide as that is not deliberate.

I am probably just overly **** seeing as how when I was younger I would take a pen and fix mistakes I would come across in books and newspapers. I actually still fight the urge!

I guess I was a born editor.

05TiGr8Lady

Oh, good point Ray... I'm doing the online thing now too, and I have to admit that I count spelling, grammar, and punctuation as important attributes. I guess it doesn't bother me as much on forums, plus I'm not looking for anyone in the age group who grew up with internet speak as a norm

05TiGr8Lady

Ha ha... great story.

+1 on errors and attentiveness in other areas of life.

I hope your GF appreciates you!!

05TiGr8Lady

Back on topic....

Why does my TPMS light come on exactly 10 minutes after I start driving? I've been timing it lately... I always thought it would come on right away if the pressure was low and go away after the tires warmed up...

Ducky

Mine did that lol...

Last 2 mornings, TPMS kicked in, checked it, it was cold, tires fine, also i notice it feels like my tires are off balance when its cold, like im running over a bump lol, i think my car doesnt like cold...

Also its mad at me cuz of gas prices i tried Safeway Gas... =( not sure of the savings, might go back to the big guys.

Mazurfer

Linda, how much "cold" pressure do you run? It will come on if you are over-inflated as well, but that would have to be pretty high. If you are high in pressure, then as it heats up it could go over. I think I've also heard of some folks having interference problems(aka....noise), but that doesn't sound like your issue. Not really sure at this point unless over inflated, but I think your cold presure would have to certainly come in at over 40lbs. I'll see if I can find the actual number.

Dave

swoope

iTrader: (5)

wow,

grammar and stuff, i am dooooooommmmmmed...

btw, the 10 minute thing is how long it takes the batterys to power up and start talking to the ecu if the car has been off for a while...

if it comes on then goes off the tire is low and is still low, it just passes the 27 psi threshold with heat..

beers

Mazurfer

Yeah......guess you're right, especially maybe in cold weather(?). Mine will come on pretty much right away no matter how long the car has been sitting without starting. But it does say that after changing or anything like that, that it can take x amount of miles for it to re-calibrate, so.......................we still need to know what her cold pressure is.


I should never respond in threads before my morning coffee.

BunnyGirl

I was told that it's because during those first 10 minutes it is taking "samples" of the pressure, et cetera. After that time the car is considered warmed up and begins fully transmitting the information back to the car. That's when it can tell that a sensor is not functioning, which is why you get the light. At least this is the explanation I was given for it. I believe there is something about it in the manual, but I can't remember at the moment.

05TiGr8Lady

Holy freaking cr@p...

About a week or so ago I drove to Les Schwab on my way home and had a guy check the pressure... tires were hot. He said they were all at 35, except one was 34 and he filled it to match the others. Since they were warm, I figured that was ok and they would cool off a few degrees.... I just now went outside in the dark, and it's 33 degrees outside. The cold pressure in my tires is not good and I think I made it a lot worse from checking with my digital gauge... If I'm doing it right, I got 28, 29, 26.5, and 26!!! Then I went back around again and the one that had been 29 was reading 16 and then 11!! I guess I learn how to use my air pump tomorrow and drive slowly to the Les Schwab store (it's only about 2 miles from my house).

Here's another option... I have Randy's brand new air compressor in the garage and I think it's already hooked up to a tire gauge, but I've never tried running it myself... It's been sitting for almost 3 years or so since the last time he used it before he died. Do I need to do anything except just turn it on and try to fill my tires? I'm not sure if I trust myself to do it

BunnyGirl

Your tires were that low (below 27 psi cold) and you didn't get immediate beeping when you turned the car on? That's a little odd. A month or so ago I started my car to leave and the tire light came on and then beeped, so I thought I might have had a flat tire again. I got out and checked them (with my digital gauge ). They were all at 30, except one of the back tires at 26.5. Since it was below 27 psi it was beeping. You may still want to have your sensors checked after fixing the air, especially if the light continues to blink.

Oh, and the little compressor in the trunk that comes with the flat tire kit is super easy to use. It comes with "multicultural" pictures on it for instructions. The only thing is, it's pretty slow at filling the tires.

05TiGr8Lady

I have never had my TPMS beep. And it's never flashed before 10 minutes. Occasionally it will start flashing and stop. But lately it comes on at 10 minutes and stays on. Guess I know why now!!

Thanks BG, I'll try it tomorrow.

Mazurfer

I'm a little concerned about what you wrote Linda. It's possible if that one tire really did start loosing more pressure after you checked it and that the valve is stuck, or(biggest fear) that you compromised the seal around the valve stem and/or you bent it while checking and caused a crack.

Make sure you zero out the digital guage before taking each reading. If it's like mine and has auto shutoff that won't be an issue as it only stays on about ten seconds. In terms of using the "old" compressor, you could try it, but I don't know what kind it is. You said it has a guage on it and so does mine. Mine has an auto shut-off and I set it for about 35psi and then I let about 1/2 to 1 pound out when it's done(checking with digital guage). You also might have the spare pump in the trunk if you have the tire kit. Either way, be gentle when either checking the tires(guage) or when you put the compressor on as you can damage the valve stem/sensor.

Wondering if you have aftermarket rims? I had an issue with sealing on my after market rims and if you moved the stem while checking......that could be it as well. 2 miles isn't too far, and if you trust the guy, you can take it to him, but it's probably time to find out if that old compressor works.

Good luck and let us know what happens. If you were losing that much air last night, that tire may be down to around five pounds this morning....that's pretty much totally flat. Don't jack up your rims by driving even two miles with the tire that low. Find someone to help you or go ahead and put more air in it before making the drive. Hell, you may not even need to go to the shop once you fill them up.

Mazurfer

Holy freaking cr@p...

About a week or so ago I drove to Les Schwab on my way home and had a guy check the pressure... tires were hot. He said they were all at 35, except one was 34 and he filled it to match the others. Since they were warm, I figured that was ok and they would cool off a few degrees.... I just now went outside in the dark, and it's 33 degrees outside. The cold pressure in my tires is not good and I think I made it a lot worse from checking with my digital gauge... If I'm doing it right, I got 28, 29, 26.5, and 26!!! Then I went back around again and the one that had been 29 was reading 16 and then 11!! I guess I learn how to use my air pump tomorrow and drive slowly to the Les Schwab store (it's only about 2 miles from my house).

Here's another option... I have Randy's brand new air compressor in the garage and I think it's already hooked up to a tire gauge, but I've never tried running it myself... It's been sitting for almost 3 years or so since the last time he used it before he died. Do I need to do anything except just turn it on and try to fill my tires? I'm not sure if I trust myself to do it
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I'm a little concerned about what you wrote Linda. It's possible if that one tire really did start loosing more pressure after you checked it and that the valve is stuck, or(biggest fear) that you compromised the seal around the valve stem and/or you bent it while checking and caused a crack.

Make sure you zero out the digital guage before taking each reading. If it's like mine and has auto shutoff that won't be an issue as it only stays on about ten seconds. In terms of using the "old" compressor, you could try it, but I don't know what kind it is. You said it has a guage on it and so does mine. Mine has an auto shut-off and I set it for about 35psi and then I let about 1/2 to 1 pound out when it's done(checking with digital guage). You also might have the spare pump in the trunk if you have the tire kit. Either way, be gentle when either checking the tires(guage) or when you put the compressor on as you can damage the valve stem/sensor.

Wondering if you have aftermarket rims? I had an issue with sealing on my after market rims and if you moved the stem while checking......that could be it as well. 2 miles isn't too far, and if you trust the guy, you can take it to him, but it's probably time to find out if that old compressor works.

Good luck and let us know what happens. If you were losing that much air last night, that tire may be down to around five pounds this morning....that's pretty much totally flat. Don't jack up your rims by driving even two miles with the tire that low. Find someone to help you or go ahead and put more air in it before making the drive. Hell, you may not even need to go to the shop once you fill them up.

kristopher_d

If your tires were at 35 hot, in the middle of the day, and 26 cold in the dark and freezing temps, I'd say they sound about right, maybe a little low. It's easy to lose a lot of air when checking pressures, if you don't get the gauge seated properly right away. I'm sure the the Les Schwab guy added air to was the high one when you checked in the evening. Driving conditions can and will cause uneven tire heating which results in uneven hot pressures. Unless you have pyrometer and calculator with you, checking hot temps is pretty useless. Get all four tires to 32 cold PSI (at least 2.5 hours of sitting, in the shade. Then go for 20 minute drive. If the sensors come on, wait another 2.5 hours and check the pressures again. If they're within a pound of your previous check (I'm allowing room for variance in barometric pressure and user behavior ), the tires are holding air fine, and there's a problem with a sensor. If any of the pressures are much lower, there's a tire/seal problem. I'd recommend recording the pressure of each tire, both times you check so you have specific information for the tech at either the dealer or tire shop.

05TiGr8Lady

Alrightly then... Operator error! I read the pressure wrong... That's what happens when I'm tired, have a new pressure gauge that I don't know how to use, and go outside in the dark and cold in my PJ's to try to check my tires... I'm sure it was a funny sight for my neighbors

Got up today and read your posts, got out my little compressor from my 8, got the manuals from the big compressor in the garage (in case my little compressor pooped out), and proceeded to RTFM's for both. Then I decided to check the tire that read 29 and then 11 last night, and this time it read 26 - whew! So I put everything back and drove slowly over to Les Schwab (local tire store). I had the guy show me how to use my gauge properly, and had him check and fill every tire. The lowest they were was 26, and that was after driving 2 miles at no faster than 40mph on freezing cold tires. Now I just need to drive somewhere and see if the TMPS light starts flashing at 10 minutes again.

Thanks for the info guys. Now that I've had some time to try out the new gauge, I should be good. I'll follow your process next time. Hopefully they will be good to go for a while though!

I do think it would behoove me to check out the big compressor and get it up to snuff again. It's basically brand new - was used maybe 10 times, and just hasn't been used for about 3 years. Mfr is Campbell Hausfeld, oil-less, bought at Home Depot in 2004.