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Old 06-22-2010, 04:56 AM
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pdx, let me know when your portland track days are in july. it's about time i got out there again...
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^ have you driven any of the Portland tracks? I'd like to try them out.
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On 7 club, they were talking about a sketchy track day there in the wet where there were 4 wrecks... and I'd always heard PIR was safer?
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wet tracks scare me haha. I've never driven on one, but I'm sure it's worse if you start the day dry and then it starts raining.
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Originally Posted by TANKERG
^ have you driven any of the Portland tracks? I'd like to try them out.
not yet

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On 7 club, they were talking about a sketchy track day there in the wet where there were 4 wrecks... and I'd always heard PIR was safer?
safer than what?
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wet tracks scare me haha. I've never driven on one, but I'm sure it's worse if you start the day dry and then it starts raining.
Scott, you should really go out on a wet day of you have the chance. I've done two wet sessions since I've been in Oklahoma (we get down pours not drizzle like in WA) but I learned SO much. You have to be so sensative on the throttle but I was surprised how fast we could still go and feel safe. Braking is effected the least followed by turning and accelerating. You can get on the brakes pretty good but you have to make sure you come off them super smooth and have a super smooth turn in and transition to maintenance throttle. Once you're through the corner you just can't get on it like you would like to but you just have to make small adjustments so you don't over-do it.

I think you would enjoy it and learn a lot. Plus most people chicken out when it rains so you get the whole track to youself

And leave TC and DSC on. You can easily get the tail out with it on and, for me, I'd rather have it save me and keep going than waste time going off track and coming in to the pits just because you gave it a hair too much throttle. You know when you step over the line you just don't spin because of it.
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hey, i was looking into to the preformance lisence.but its a lil too spendy .. so i was wondering if there are other ways tht are cheaper then tht so that i can get my self on the track i no i have to go throw somthing to actually get me ready but still 555 i think is a lil too much. i was thinkin more lyk 100-200 or so.. but yea .. let me no .. im 19 jus a lil street "ricer" went from a audi rs6 to jaguar to this now.. and i really want to get out of the streets and get into serious track.. thx
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Originally Posted by dondo
safer than what?
Than PR. I've been told the run offs are much better at PIR and it's a lot more forgiving to mistakes.

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Scott, you should really go out on a wet day of you have the chance. I've done two wet sessions since I've been in Oklahoma (we get down pours not drizzle like in WA) but I learned SO much. You have to be so sensative on the throttle but I was surprised how fast we could still go and feel safe. Braking is effected the least followed by turning and accelerating. You can get on the brakes pretty good but you have to make sure you come off them super smooth and have a super smooth turn in and transition to maintenance throttle. Once you're through the corner you just can't get on it like you would like to but you just have to make small adjustments so you don't over-do it.

I think you would enjoy it and learn a lot. Plus most people chicken out when it rains so you get the whole track to youself

And leave TC and DSC on. You can easily get the tail out with it on and, for me, I'd rather have it save me and keep going than waste time going off track and coming in to the pits just because you gave it a hair too much throttle. You know when you step over the line you just don't spin because of it.

I'd second that... once or twice. The first 4 AutoX events of this season were wet and by the time I got to the first day where it started to dry a little, I'd forgotten how to drive in the dry.

Even at AutoX speeds, it's unreal how much less grip you have in the rear. Our ABS is incredibly good though, so it always surprises me how well we can still brake.

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hey, i was looking into to the preformance lisence.but its a lil too spendy .. so i was wondering if there are other ways tht are cheaper then tht so that i can get my self on the track i no i have to go throw somthing to actually get me ready but still 555 i think is a lil too much. i was thinkin more lyk 100-200 or so.. but yea .. let me no .. im 19 jus a lil street "ricer" went from a audi rs6 to jaguar to this now.. and i really want to get out of the streets and get into serious track.. thx
For the clubs that are around much, you usually have to do a skill day first like Porsche's.
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Originally Posted by Anijo
Than PR. I've been told the run offs are much better at PIR and it's a lot more forgiving to mistakes.




I'd second that... once or twice. The first 4 AutoX events of this season were wet and by the time I got to the first day where it started to dry a little, I'd forgotten how to drive in the dry.

Even at AutoX speeds, it's unreal how much less grip you have in the rear. Our ABS is incredibly good though, so it always surprises me how well we can still brake.



For the clubs that are around much, you usually have to do a skill day first like Porsche's.
yea i understand that but im trying to avoid the 555 bux and to see if there are cheaper ways
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Originally Posted by JantzenRX-8
Scott, you should really go out on a wet day of you have the chance. I've done two wet sessions since I've been in Oklahoma (we get down pours not drizzle like in WA) but I learned SO much. You have to be so sensative on the throttle but I was surprised how fast we could still go and feel safe. Braking is effected the least followed by turning and accelerating. You can get on the brakes pretty good but you have to make sure you come off them super smooth and have a super smooth turn in and transition to maintenance throttle. Once you're through the corner you just can't get on it like you would like to but you just have to make small adjustments so you don't over-do it.

I think you would enjoy it and learn a lot. Plus most people chicken out when it rains so you get the whole track to youself

And leave TC and DSC on. You can easily get the tail out with it on and, for me, I'd rather have it save me and keep going than waste time going off track and coming in to the pits just because you gave it a hair too much throttle. You know when you step over the line you just don't spin because of it.

Wow, that's pretty interesting. I never thought of it helping me learn car control, but what an excellent learning tool/situation. I guess I'll just need to man up and go for it. And about the DSC, that stays on in the dry!!! My car would not be here without it.

How's OK? What track are you driving out there?
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Originally Posted by ggavgg
hey, i was looking into to the preformance lisence.but its a lil too spendy .. so i was wondering if there are other ways tht are cheaper then tht so that i can get my self on the track i no i have to go throw somthing to actually get me ready but still 555 i think is a lil too much. i was thinkin more lyk 100-200 or so.. but yea .. let me no .. im 19 jus a lil street "ricer" went from a audi rs6 to jaguar to this now.. and i really want to get out of the streets and get into serious track.. thx

There are other clubs in the area that drive out at Pacific Raceways like the Porsche Club and the Alfa Romeo club, I don't know how to get a hold with them, when they drive, nor the costs. The $555 is only for the school with Proformance, after that it's about $240-$280 for Proformance driving days.

You might also try the autocross events, they are a lot of fun and relatively cheap ($35 and I think you get a cheaper fare because you're inder 25). The speeds are slower, but it really pushes your car and you, something to think about.
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yea i understand that but im trying to avoid the 555 bux and to see if there are cheaper ways
Listen to Scott

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There are other clubs in the area that drive out at Pacific Raceways like the Porsche Club and the Alfa Romeo club, I don't know how to get a hold with them, when they drive, nor the costs. The $555 is only for the school with Proformance, after that it's about $240-$280 for Proformance driving days.

You might also try the autocross events, they are a lot of fun and relatively cheap ($35 and I think you get a cheaper fare because you're inder 25). The speeds are slower, but it really pushes your car and you, something to think about.
Besides, AutoX is competition. SCCA even gives out Trophies for Novices! BSCC doesn't but then will let you run Novice for the entire season (unless you're me, who they threw out of Novice for the last event of my first season )
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Wow, that's pretty interesting. I never thought of it helping me learn car control, but what an excellent learning tool/situation. I guess I'll just need to man up and go for it. And about the DSC, that stays on in the dry!!! My car would not be here without it.

How's OK? What track are you driving out there?
It's good. It's freaking hot though. I think it's 99 right now. I go running in the morning at 6:30. By the time I'm done it's already 85. We have tornados too which contrary to what some might think they're only a little cool and a lot scary. I don't like tornados so far.

I've been driving out at Hallett Motor Racing Circuit. It's hard for me to say this but I think it's better than Pacific. It's really fun, especially we run counter-clockwise. A full day at the track is only $95 and you get just as much time as a club day at Pacific. It's in BFE though. 2 hour drive and it's hard to find 91 octane anywhere but at the track for 4.50 per gallon.

Really fun though. I'm going there Saturday and i'll try to get an in car video for ya
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How much is 91 on the street out there? it's around $3.19 here. That's not too bad for the convience.


Nothing wrong with liking another track better and you can't beat the price, there's just nothing like your first haha
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I think i paid $2.65 last time i filled up. There's nothing like living in oil country!

Haha, yeah, Pacific will always be a special place for me.
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Speaking of firsts, here's me slow pokin' around the track on my first day. Check out the video time. That's right, a 1:39!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXLF83peHJE


from turn two to turn nine
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Your car is so quiet... you can hear it from the other guy's car!

I'm gonna see if I can't find time to do the July thread tomorrow... get it out early.

Mike, if you're looking for PIR track days, check here: http://www.pnwhpde.com/schedule.htm It's my new source for HPDE events for these threads It includes clubs I didn't even know to look for.

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Originally Posted by JantzenRX-8
I've been driving out at Hallett Motor Racing Circuit.

Looks like a fun course, though through peoples car cameras, it looks like there's a lot of blind parts of the track with all the rolling hills. Looks challenging and fun!
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Looks like a fun course, though through peoples car cameras, it looks like there's a lot of blind parts of the track with all the rolling hills. Looks challenging and fun!
Here is a video from yesterday's track day. Dont mind the two M3's that walk through me -- they're two of the more seasoned drivers out there. Well, the second one i let by but he was generally a little faster than me. Anyways, enjoy!

I was running consistent 1:36-1:37's with a couple 1:35's in there. It was pretty hot and greasy out there though. My fastest time from the previous track day was a 1:36.8 and i know i'm taking a faster route around the course now. Just one example is that I used to have to cruise at the top of third on the straight up/down the hill because it wasn't worth it to shift. Now i'm grabbing fourth and actually using it for a significant period of time before the braking zone for turn 2. I guess that'll happen when you gain enough confidence to blaze through turn 1 at 75mph cutting over the curbing and tracking out all the way to the rumple strips

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Nice video!! Saw what you meant by turn one (if that's the turn after the track entrance.) You were in fourth a bit. haha
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Also, how are your seats both on and off the track?
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^^^ best money i've ever spent on my car. Seriously.

I don't recommend everyone spend as much as i did though. Cheaper seats would have done just fine but racing seats in general is a very wise investment.
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Lol im way too short for racing seats haha I'd have to lift then


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