Race in February (2010)
 

Oh snap! It's actually time for a legit one of these again! And... for some reason, there's actually a LOT of events! The first of the Novice schools is this month. Going off last year, BSCC will do 2, SCCA will do 1 and then you'll be stuck going to regular events and practice days. Registration for the BSCC school is through Motorsportsreg.com, see the link below.

I'll try and keep up with who plans on attending what event. If it's too much of a pain in the ass, I'll stop. Regardless of if I update the Members planning on attending lists, we can use this thread to organize meeting up to go to an event etc. as well. The Tacoma Mall Krispy Kreme has worked out pretty well for Bremerton based events. Southcenter Mall would work out better for Packwood events for those going ass early. Click the location link for directions to any of the sites. For PR, click the directions link on their site (it's in Java so I can't link straight to it).

Membership Requirements:

• Alfa Events: No Membership Required
• BEAC Events: Must be a Boeing Employee
• BSCC Events: Must be a BSCC Member [$20 Membership]
• Porsche Pacific Northwest Events: Schools - Porsche Club Sponsor or Membership in one of the following clubs: PCA, Alfa, Audi, BMWCCA, BSCC, Corvette, Mini, Viper, or PDC club member
• Proformance Racing School: Must be a client for all non-school events, going to a school makes you a client, or be a member of the Alfa or Porsche clubs.
• NWR SCCA Events: Membership Required [$10 Weekend memberships available on site, full memberships available online for $45 or $60, up to 3 weekend memberships can count towards a full one]
• SCCA Oregon Region Events: Membership Required [$10 Weekend memberships available on site, full time memberships must be Dual Region]
• WWSCC - No Membership Required (I think)

Pre-registration varies from Event to Event. Pre-Registration is always cheaper, sometimes required, but not always available more than 2 weeks before the event. Always check the link for a given event.

Remember to Bring:

• Oil - During the lapping days you can burn as much as a quart! Autocross days are less, but it's still worth topping off at the beginning of the event
• Sunblock - Especially for the autocross events where you'll spend half the time working the course
• Water - No matter what the event, it's going to be hot in your helmet and car
• Helmet (If you have one that meets the requirements) - All clubs require a helmet, some will lend you one in exchange for your license, others will charge you money to rent one. Helmet Requirements (always double check the club's listing!):
  • AutoX - Snell Approved M2000 or higher
  • Lapping - Snell Approved SA2005 or higher
• Cash - At almost all Bremerton events, the local Lions Club will show up and serve cheap burgers, hot dogs and Philly Cheese Steaks but they're cash only
• Your Checkbook - All autocross events that involve timing equipment have a rule: If you car touches the timing equipment, it's a $100 fine payable on the spot. You can sometimes run and pick up money from an ATM down the street but it's easier if you have your checkbook handy.
  • Don't be intimidated by this, in reality, it's very rare. The club doesn't WANT this to happen, so they setup the course to try and prevent it from happening
• Gas
  • AutoX - 1/2 tank or more
  • AutoX Practice - Full tank
  • School - Full Tank
  • Lapping - Full Tank

February 7th:

• WWSCC - Slush Series Event #1 [Sanderson Field, Shelton, WA]
• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]

February 8th:

• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]

February 9th:

• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]

February 10th:

• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]

February 11th:

• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]

February 13th:

• Porsche NW – Driver Education [Bremerton Motorsports Park, Bremerton, WA]
  • Members Planning on Attending: Shin

February 14th:

• BSCC Practice Day #1 [Bremerton Motorsports Park, Bremerton, WA]
  • Members Planning on Attending: Anijo, Dondo, ANIBALRX8

February 20th:

• Proformance Open Lapping Day [Pacific Raceways]
• Proformance HP Driving Clinic [Pacific Raceways]

February 21st:

• WWSCC - Slush Series Event #2 [Sanderson Field, Shelton, WA]

February 28th:

• BSCC Novice School [Bremerton Motorsports Park, Bremerton, WA]

ooh fun! i just got some new tires mounted on the rpf1s this week too. ;)

no pacific raceways events yet i assume?

None that I could find, actually I can't find any for March either. NWR SCCA has posted their full schedule but BSCC only has their first practice posted. Like I said in the OP though, Michele says there's going to be a Novice school soon, not sure when though. Alfa has their first school in March but it's Bremerton. Pacific's site says their 2010 schedule hasn't been defined yet, so it's gonna be a while before we know.

Also... I know the moment I switch back to summer tires, it's going to snow :lol:

yeah dont do that yet. i made that mistake last year and ended up going back and forth like three times..

I wish that BSCC practice wasn't on valentine's day... We'll see if I can get permission to go :lol:

hah i was gonna say.. that's the practice for single folk. i do have the 15th off for presidents day so maybe i can reschedule and still make it out on sunday

ok i'm in for the 14th. do we need to sign up?

^^^ Nice. Let me know how you like those tires ;)

will do man; they're mounted and ready to go. let me know when you need me to drive your car out there. i'll fly out whenever for some seat time. ;)

My car is covered in snow and ice at the moment :( but when it warms up and i finally get back on the track i'll let ya know.

ok sweet :wavey:

I may come out on the 14 feb. to play with you guy. Its been a year or two since I been there. Hope to see you all there!!!

Proformance might have some track days. They have several scheduled next week, and they'll pick the day based on interest and weather.

http://www.proformanceracingschool.com/schedule

ooh i was just thinking about that. are you going to any?

what'd it run for a day? and have you thought about taking out their elise?

Bah, I knew I forgot a site. I'll update tonight...

Feb 14 practice day: Registration isn't open yet, I'll post when it opens.

^ k thanks

The BSCC Novice School has been posted, 2/28. No registration link yet, but last time it was limited to 50 entrants and done through motorsports reg rather than the normal autorosskeeper which means you have to pay when you sign up.

Mike, I think your car will qualify for CSP on those tires... and it might even be competitive in this region :D:

tell me more.. :wink2:

CSP is C Street Prepared, and I think you can even go FI in that class :D: We don't have very many people running in *SP in this region and I don't know if any of them have done significant power mods. Here're the results from this class in the last 2009 SCCA event: http://www.wwscc.org/event_results/2...ca-08.html#NS2

I will not be able to make it. I think I might be out of a job again, so I'll be off the track untill I can find other employment (I really want to go though :) )


It runs $260 for the day, and since it's your first time with them, you'll need to hire an instructor for two 25 minute sessions, which costs an additional $125. It's a little more money than Alfa, but with the extra time on the track, it makes it worth it.

I really think you should give Proformance a try. I think you get a lot more track time (on a normal lapping day, you're out every half hour,) and there are more days offered. They even have a powerlunch deal when they have the school programs, it's $125 for a solid hour of driving at 12:30 (the students are not on the track with you during the powerlunch drive.) The lotus costs $200 for a 25 minute session.

hmm wouldn't that be funny if my mods kicked me out of being competitive in bstock but made the car competitive somewhere else on accident. ;) i may need some nick schooling on csp rules..

^ i'm definitely doing that. probs have to do the instructor and all the firs though, huh?

is there any way to waive that part?

We're actually a C Stock car now. A stock was moved to B and B to C, creating a new A stock from former Super Stock cars (Base C5, M3 and a few others). The main thing that would make you competitive in CSP is the tires, it's an R-Comp class.

ok cool. what class are you running this season?

STX again. It's roughly the same as CSP but without the R-Comps and you still need a cat. I was just poking through the rules, and your... side skirts might technically violate the letter of the rules but not the intent. Not sure how that would play out. You... might be in SM... which is even smaller but harder to compete in.

ok cool. are you going to all events this year?

If I can!

Yep you have to do the instructor, but not the school (as long as you can prove you ran with Alfa) I really liked my instructor a lot, if you can request him I'd see if Kevin Doyle is available. Here he is in a Pro 3 race :lol2:

Check it out at 00:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cLVuw4cHjA

lol

Registration is open for the Practice Day on the 14th!

Nice vid Scott. I think that exact string of words has come out of my mouth while driving before :lol2:

me too haha I've done that in my truck when a car pulled in front of me on the highway when I was doing 70 and they were doing 25. Luckily they pulled out of the way just in time, because I kept the wheel straight.

so i was thinking of running track pads this season since i have to swap wheels anyway. my only question is how do i get them off afterwards?? wont they be burning hot? and i'd like to get them out when i take the track wheels off so i dont have to do it all over again later.. ideas?

Pose the question in the racing section, I'm sure some one else has tried that before.

you dont think the nw homies can help?

I'll help!! Or at least give my opinion.

I bet they cool down faster than you think. Especially with a cool down lap and maybe a little brake-free drive down the road and back. I was really surprised how fast they cool down if the car is moving. Now, cool enough to get your hands in there remove the pads i dont know for sure -- they're definitely not going to be cold.

You'll need some track pads with those new tires for sure or you'll burn through your pads super fast since you've got so much more grip. There are some pads out there that should be able to get you home without swapping them but like you said you'd rather swap them with the track wheels.

Would you autox on the pads you have now? Dont you have Mazdaspeed pads or something? I doubt you'd overheat them in a normal autox. I have Racing Brake ET500 which i think are good up to 900-1000 degrees and i've only faded them once at an autox and that was at the end of that crazy 30+ run practice when we were hot-lapping like crazy people :Eyecrazy: Just my thoughts. I couldn't imagine having street, autox and track pads.

Tracking is a different story. Brake pads get punished on the track and a dedicated set would be a worthwhile investment. I'm in the same boat. I want to run R-comps this summer (or whenever the Bridgestones on the RPF1s kick the bucket) but i'm going to need some track pads to take advantage of the new found grip and hold up to the punishment. I'm leaning towards Carbotechs (XP10 in the front XP8 in the rear is a popular combo) or Hawk somethings. I can't pin down which Hawk compound would be best yet. I want to do some temp testing to get a better idea what pads would work best. I might try a different tier Racing Brake compound too. I dont know.

Let me know what you're thinking. We have similarly set-up cars and similar driving styles (different tracks now though :() so it'd be interesting to see what your ideas are.

Remember after those practice days though, you couldn't even touch the calipers or the pads after the event. i seem to remember yours melting away or something and causing an accident? ;)

Right, if i was on street tires i'd have no problem driving home and letting them cool sufficiently but i'd really rather pull them at the track after i finished running and can pull the rcomps at the time time.

yes, i do autox and track on the pads i have now. they're mazdaspeed and i haven't ever overheated them. i also bought hawk ceramics for my next set of street pads.

i was looking at the hawk ht-10 for track pads. they have great reviews and temp range is 300-1600. i dont mind swapping them in for events if i have enough time beforehand and can get them out afterwards. i do need to practice making the swap quickly though.. i suppose with all these changes i'll get pretty good at it.

yeah i'm thinking swap for track and i'm on the fence for autox. i'm going to try the new tires on autox this weekend and see how they do. if i like it i may think about using the mazdaspeed for autox, ht-10 for track, and ceramic for dd. hahaha, yes that sounds ridiculous..

Posing this in here first, then I might start a thread on it (I think Brad brought this up once...)

How do you guys feel about drag racing? Specifically, the Car Club Challenge, which starts up again in May. Sounds like a fun way to collectively kill our transmissions :D:

Nick... shun

hey what about replying to mine!!

If you're thinking about HT-10's why not DTC-60 or DTC-70? About the same operating temp floor but with higher operating temps and a higher coefficient of friction. Plus you could stagger them, 70's in the front 60's in the back.

:dunno:

Nick needed to be shunned ASAP

the HT-10 claims to have a smooth initial bite which seems like it'd be better when decelerating from high speeds, less likely to upset the car. i dont know anyone who's run the DTC 60 or 70 though so who knows :confused:

maybe i just need to buy some of both and try them. ;)

Yeah, who knows. Might want to Ask Brian at Good-Win Racing. I know he carries all these types of pads and usually has a good grasp on the characteristics of each compound on the RX8. You might want to send him an email, explain how you car is set up and describe the braking zones at Pacific. He'll probably give you a good idea what you need.

sounds like you've done it already! care to share?

lol... I dunno, the idea of competing as a team is kind of appealing (though drag racing is meh, I can't really see ever going by myself to do it, unlike AutoX where I was usually the only one from the Seattle crew :p:)

I have not asked him about brake pads but i have about other stuff. He'll usually get back to you within a day. I'm not going to email about this though. I feel bad, i've asked him for info twice before and didn't end up buying anything. I think the next time i ask for his opinion i have to buy.

You just need an autocross. You're going through withdrawals.

Can I register/pay membership on Sunday at Bremerton or is there a place I can register/pay online?