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J.Cab 11-13-2008 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by gregs (Post 2723742)
i really think its your ultimate, i had very simalar afr's at wot, once i got my cobb ap i removed the ultimate and just used the ap and my afr's changed dramatically, everyone is right about not going into boost at those levels that is really scary i was lucky myself i didnt damaged anything...if you cant wait for maps on the ap you can get your emanage tuned to lower your afr's as well i just didnt think it was worth investing the money into the ultimate at the time

Can you elaborate more...so were you just running the base FI from MM on the AP, and the car was still running fine,etc? Because I was under the impression that the base FI map was not a tuned map rather just to give you readings.

Brettus 11-13-2008 12:33 PM

take out the ultimate - put the base map in and see what you get .

J.Cab 11-14-2008 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2724194)
take out the ultimate - put the base map in and see what you get .

Alright took out the Greddy completely. Installed the MM FI map and still got AFRs that idled at 14.7 then while in boost according to the AP stayed at 14.7 the whole way through. Still had problems accelerating past 5k it was starting to "buck" again. Gosh I tempted to just take off the turbo kit...is it possible that I may have damaged my engine already?

05rex8 11-14-2008 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by J.Cab (Post 2725146)
Alright took out the Greddy completely. Installed the MM FI map and still got AFRs that idled at 14.7 then while in boost according to the AP stayed at 14.7 the whole way through. Still had problems accelerating past 5k it was starting to "buck" again. Gosh I tempted to just take off the turbo kit...is it possible that I may have damaged my engine already?

the greddy intake is not going to work with the ap, that's a lot of the problem right there

Brettus 11-14-2008 12:58 AM

well -you should have taken it gingerly into boost looking at the afr's the whole time then backing off if you saw high numbers ...

The greddy intake sucks (so to speak) . You need a decent intake ... AEM , Mazsport , make your own . The key is to get the right diameter at the maf housing and plenty of straight pipe before the maf to get a good reading .

Kane 11-14-2008 01:35 AM

And yet - none of this information help to determine why the AFR's are reading incorrectly.

Please; you need to figure that out - not swap intakes. I have 5000 boosted miles on the Greddy intake; it is not THAT bad.

Brettus 11-14-2008 01:45 AM

he already replaced his 02 - but yes you are right Kane . There is something else screwing around with his readings .

How about if he takes the car to a shop with a sensor that clips into the exhaust to get a reading that he can compare to the AP reading ?

tiltmode43 11-14-2008 02:34 AM

Oh, and PM me if you happen to want to sell the kit ;)

Really though, hope you can sort this all out!

dondo 11-20-2008 08:18 AM

any news yet?

MazdaManiac 11-20-2008 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by J.Cab (Post 2724165)
Can you elaborate more...so were you just running the base FI from MM on the AP, and the car was still running fine,etc? Because I was under the impression that the base FI map was not a tuned map rather just to give you readings.

Did you read the instructions? The thread? Anything?
Really. What would lead you to think that its just a "base map"?
It is an application-specific tune.
If you filled out the form correctly, you got a calibration for your car that matches what you have modified.
If you asked for a turbo tune - you got one.

Further tuning is accomplished by following the instructions in the e-mail precisely.

That said, you obviously have something wrong. A leak, a disconnected/damaged sensor or a failure in vacuum/pressure routing or wiring.

J.Cab 11-20-2008 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2735116)
Did you read the instructions? The thread? Anything?
Really. What would lead you to think that its just a "base map"?
It is an application-specific tune.
If you filled out the form correctly, you got a calibration for your car that matches what you have modified.
If you asked for a turbo tune - you got one.

Further tuning is accomplished by following the instructions in the e-mail precisely.

That said, you obviously have something wrong. A leak, a disconnected/damaged sensor or a failure in vacuum/pressure routing or wiring.


MM,

I understand that it is an application-specific tune. I am getting the new 02 Sensor put in today. hopefully this will fix my problem. The reason I said it was base FI map was because you said "The calibration set that you receive is NOT a "tuning" set. Changing calibrations up or down the series is NOT a viable way to alter the target AFR values or gain power/drivability. The series is ONLY intended to discover the correct MAF calibration for your particular vehicle and intake setup. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS PROVIDED HERE EXACTLY WILL YIELD A POOR TUNE AND INVALIDATE ANY FURTHER TUNING ATTEMPTS!" I will keep you guys updated.

gregs 11-20-2008 01:27 PM

that could be a big issue if there was mis-communication, when i got my map from MM i had the greddy intake at the time and that was the map i was given and my afr's where good enough to work with you might want to check your email and make sure the description is correct

J.Cab 11-20-2008 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by gregs (Post 2735216)
that could be a big issue if there was mis-communication, when i got my map from MM i had the greddy intake at the time and that was the map i was given and my afr's where good enough to work with you might want to check your email and make sure the description is correct

Yeah maybe I will have to check when I get home. But I am getting the new O2 Sensor put in today regardless. I will post the end result when I get it put in. Hopefully it was just a bad 02 Sensor.

J.Cab 11-22-2008 03:04 AM

Alright the O2 Sensor was bad. Now the car is going into 11.1 while in boost. I will have to datalog some. But overall I am excited the car is running normal now!

gregs 11-22-2008 09:52 AM

glad to hear you got your issue resolved. that would suck to remove the kit!

ravenforbidden 11-23-2008 03:21 AM

So that's it? Was the bump in power noticable at lower rpm?

I've never put the seat time into anything under a V-8 thumping anyless than 302 cubes, so I'm curious.

The advertisement for the new 370 Z on the site sickens me just a side note, no Z, Evo, or STi has ever so much as trailed my Rex since I put on the Fidanza flywheel and clutch setup.

and1kidd 11-26-2008 10:43 AM

J. Cab just wanted to see if you were going to make it down to Seattle anytime soon. I would love to check out the set up and soak up some of your knowledge.

Also I wanted to extend an invite to this weekends car run with The-Winding-Road. We usually get about 8-10 8's out and a few others but no turbo'd 8's since I have been with the group. check out the-winding-road.com to get more info.

J.Cab 11-26-2008 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by ravenforbidden (Post 2739083)
So that's it? Was the bump in power noticable at lower rpm?

I've never put the seat time into anything under a V-8 thumping anyless than 302 cubes, so I'm curious.

The advertisement for the new 370 Z on the site sickens me just a side note, no Z, Evo, or STi has ever so much as trailed my Rex since I put on the Fidanza flywheel and clutch setup.

Torque is definitely there if thats what you are asking...:ylsuper:

J.Cab 11-26-2008 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by and1kidd (Post 2744005)
J. Cab just wanted to see if you were going to make it down to Seattle anytime soon. I would love to check out the set up and soak up some of your knowledge.

Also I wanted to extend an invite to this weekends car run with The-Winding-Road. We usually get about 8-10 8's out and a few others but no turbo'd 8's since I have been with the group. check out the-winding-road.com to get more info.

I would love to go to The Winding Road drives. Unfortunately being in the military I have to work this weekend. Generally speaking the reason I don't go on the drives is because I live in Oak Harbor (Whidbey Island) and most of the drives are down South. However, I am down in Seattle about every couple of weekends. In fact I am going to be in Seattle from whole weekend on the 5-8 of Dec. So if anyone wants to meet up I can do that then. I am going to see if I can finally get this PPO2 ball rolling with Chris. But let me know if anyone wants to hang out.

ravenforbidden 11-28-2008 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by J.Cab (Post 2744875)
Torque is definitely there if thats what you are asking...:ylsuper:

That's good to hear, I'm ganna fab in a bigger greddy make turbo and kick the Renesis up to 500 on my 09 GT after I sell off my 04, I want the new car smell and things, this current 04 needs a new owner...

IE, it has flooded it's last flood!:rant:

05rex8 11-28-2008 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by ravenforbidden (Post 2746787)
That's good to hear, I'm ganna fab in a bigger greddy make turbo and kick the Renesis up to 500 on my 09 GT after I sell off my 04, I want the new car smell and things, this current 04 needs a new owner...

IE, it has flooded it's last flood!:rant:

500HP?? GL with that....I doubt anyone will ever see 500 HP on the renesis. Even if it does happen, it will be short lived.

I would just keep your 04 and swap in a turbo'd 20B. You will see well over 500HP with that setup.

MazdaManiac 11-28-2008 09:55 PM

Yeah, the Renesis exhaust ports are too small to get you into that range with any longevity.

ravenforbidden 11-29-2008 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2746861)
Yeah, the Renesis exhaust ports are too small to get you into that range with any longevity.

I dunno, with Racing Beat Balenced rotors my Current setup does fairly okay on 100 Oct and 16psi boost, bit overkill but does good, I think with some bridge and exhaust porting it could be done, just as a race day thing, 400hp for DD, I have a TT RX-7 I snagged in a shady deal with some guys we're looking into getting Greddy on that right after we get the Racing Beat Internals and a new housing, it was fucked up by us, that is me and my Bro Trey.

MazdaManiac 11-29-2008 06:08 PM

So, I take it, you know nothing about the Renesis, then?

ducttape4054 12-20-2008 02:34 AM

so how is the expierence with the greddy kit? i am gonna order it in january. PM me pleaz. how much wuz yer install? bov? gauges? tht is awsome u r FI now. i cnt wait till i am.

nuke0907 08-17-2009 03:48 PM

could you post some updates on this thread? pics, dyno, info, etc.?

dondo 08-17-2009 04:01 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/nw-rx-8-forum-33/stay-tuned-theres-possibility-september-180270/

AngryBumblebee 09-03-2009 12:23 PM

He'll be tuning his set up with Kane next week! I will post pics and links to youtube of dyno

Brettus 09-11-2009 08:47 PM

Well ?????????????????????????????/

dondo 09-11-2009 09:14 PM

?..

Brettus 09-11-2009 09:16 PM

??....

dondo 09-11-2009 09:24 PM

???..

Brettus 09-11-2009 09:28 PM

..???

05rex8 09-11-2009 09:29 PM

*fart*

http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...es/leaving.gif

Brettus 09-11-2009 09:34 PM

/\ this is where you post your video 05

05rex8 09-11-2009 09:38 PM

ah yes...the infamous 05rex8 vid...

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090805215019683

dondo 09-11-2009 10:40 PM

hahaha nice

Kane 09-12-2009 05:38 PM

The tune was really good...

Brettus 09-12-2009 05:46 PM

/\ ya big tease . Tell JCab to get postin

Kane 09-12-2009 05:54 PM

He may not be posting too much info for a bit.

I'll explain the whole story once we get a few pieces of information and if he doesn't mind. Nothing super bad happened on the dyno or anything.... BUT there are some issues.

Brettus 09-12-2009 05:57 PM

what issues ?

dondo 09-12-2009 07:39 PM

?..

J.Cab 09-12-2009 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Kane (Post 3220646)
He may not be posting too much info for a bit.

I'll explain the whole story once we get a few pieces of information and if he doesn't mind. Nothing super bad happened on the dyno or anything.... BUT there are some issues.

Alright Kane, you can post any information you want.

I will just say that I had to use Seafoam. And I will be doing a compression test. Nothing to do tune with the tune, but I have an 04 with 52k miles on it.... :sad:

dondo 09-12-2009 09:15 PM

crap man.. no luck for you.

05rex8 09-12-2009 09:53 PM

oh noes...

details???

Brettus 09-12-2009 09:55 PM

/\ what he said

RawrX8 09-12-2009 10:42 PM

Did Kane try to give you some octane booster with that run Dan brought you guys?!

Kane 09-13-2009 04:03 PM

Octane Booster???? HUH; you mean the seafoam?


Short story long the motor is low on power - tune is spot on; however as the RPM's climb it just won't hold power - even with the BC set up for a nice 9 PSI to redline run.... he was barely breaking 200WHP.

So we seafoamed it (after I left) and he picked up 3" of vacuum at idle.... but not sure what the resulting power numbers were as he had to stop the dyno early. There is just something not right about the car - and it being an 04 never pre-mixed I have my suspicions.

05rex8 09-13-2009 08:09 PM

that's too bad.
hopefully someone else can uncork this turbo; I really would like to see what it can do

nuke0907 09-13-2009 08:22 PM

uhoh, hope this doesn't happen to me. mine is an '04 too with almost 60k never premixed.


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