Yes its easy to spend that, very easy. there are many nice things of a good fitting, but a 5k ss ctx-10 is not nessecary to have a good running system.

My clusterfuck comment was aimed at the LS3 into the Auto swap from LA. That car is a clusterfuck. But feel free to prove me wrong with yours, I hope you do. We have Austin Driveway, Harris Hill, SAR, pick your poison. But unfortunately I don't have a lot of faith that you will honestly which is why I said it will likely end up a clusterfuck. Because 99% of the ones I have seen in Rx-8's do. .

Where do you get 110000km, my first motor lasted well over twice that and died due to my wife daily driving it and neglecting it when it started overheating.

Talk is cheap. Put up or shut up.

what kind of unicorn rx-8 were you driving? you also get 24mpg on 87pump?

I love all this talk about rebuilding every 110k km....
I have 111,000 miles (178637km) on my Renesis. Original clutch and motor. Did I mention I'm boosted yet? Wait, I forgot to mention up until 8-9k miles ago(when I boosted) I saw monthly track duty with HPDE's. For me and many others, your argument is invalid. If my motor went today, it served it's purpose and lived a long hard life.

check for the re-manufactured sticker on your motor
lol 178,000 + turbo on the original clutch... meth must be one hell of a drug lol

Get your license and learn to drive then you might know how to keep a clutch and motor. I will admit enough people have had engine problems, but theres little clutch issues on this car.

Of course you probably went with the exedy stage 1 to increase power then went thorough multiple of them.

Careful with the meth references there Sparky.

The original intent of the thread is a good one, but some don't seem to be able to participate in that vein without getting defensive.
It is after all an RX8 enthusiasts forum, with the rotary being a primary feature of the vehicle.
To expect to try to convince members of the supposed inferiority of it is folly.

But then reasonable judgement does not appear to be a strength of some.

... Hey.... I drive the same roads as this... Joker.... :suspect:

Good luck up there Gravey... If you see an RX-8 that looks and sounds like something the Clampetts would drive, you will at least know which joker is behind the wheel...

my renny is rock solid but a deer totaled my car. engine is one of the strongest na motors ive driven in an 8 (except boosted ones) so whats this rebuild every whatever metric #s you keep throwing out?

btw 9ks car is one of the cleanest here, he cut no corners and did it right. maybe by trial and error but he did it right and has been a big help to me when modding my car

Next week starts tread on "Rx taking 50seconds of cranking to start?" week after that, starts a thread on "rew swap is it possible?"

You obviously have no clue who or what you are talking about.
Ignorant remarks like that are why people like you get so little respect on this forum.
Good luck with your project.

ls swaps are fooking garbage. if you want tq its an isuzu v6 for the win

anyone who really wants to frankenfuckswap an 8 needs to pm kickerfox and become his best friend/lover. nobody knows more about throwing random parts at a bs swap from 28 different car companies than him

Just wait until my Isuzu build is done. I already have the badges for my car when it is complete.

http://www.motoracingstickers.com/im...-368-large.jpg

dont forget the stock 300zx twins, and dodgechevyfordgeojeepbmwchryslernissanfiatpontiact oyota badge. hope you have a bigger hood

87 octane is unhealthy for the engine, as with any engine designed to run on high octane. Complaining that your engine swap won't run on diesel won't get you far. The wrong fuel is the wrong fuel, and reliability has nothing to do with it.

But actually yes, not only could I get 24mpg without much effort, I got a 8,330 mile (around the country) average of 19.9 including traffic in LA, San Fransisco, Chicago, Denver, New Jersey, and New York, light to light in San Fransico, sustained 100mph+ in empty northern Nevada, and 32 hours of driving the Pacific Coast Highway where nothing is straight and speed vary from 20mph to 60mph.

I bet you wouldn't believe that I even got 27mpg on 4 back to back tanks of gas when i concentrated on hypermilling to see what I could get to.


So you expect us to take your word that you can do a cheap clean swap, but you aren't willing to take someone else's word that they haven't had any problems with their 8?

That's pretty hypocritical.

What I'd like to know is what the groups definition of a complete/finished frankenstien swap is.

Everything in the car working as intended, no short cuts. Cruise control, traction control, ABS, dash, etc. Unless of course it is a full on track car.

• Starts normally, and doesn't require prayers or tricks to get it started
• Idles normally without prayers or tricks
• All electronics left in the car that are connected still work and without warning lights
• The car actually sits correctly on the suspension (the 5.0L swap missed this mark badly)
• You can put another 20,000 miles on it minimum without a single swap related piece failing, including fittings, hoses, vacuum leaks, fluid leaks, bolts breaking, etc... This isn't hard if you don't take shortcuts.
• If someone else were to buy the car from you, they wouldn't have any quirks to deal with, and they could reasonably troubleshoot any issues that eventually show up (because nothing lasts forever)
• All wiring is correctly fused, spliced, shielded, and secured, and shouldn't be routed crazily all over the car
• The car can legitimately pass safety inspection (bribing someone doesn't count)
• The car can pass emissions without bribing. You can be cheating the system, like with OBD2 CEL blocking, but if an inspection agent won't pass you without bribery, you can't sell that to someone else.
• There is nothing about the car that you would have to explain to someone how to get it to work. It just works normally.

Did I miss anything?


The list is different if it is a swap for a track only car, but that hasn't been under discussion.

yea you missed the part where you're supposed to disclaim that you spent a tonne of money on a car that was totally not worth it and know feel that the only way to justify this is to say that the renny is superior to all other motors when the fact is you should have just swapped, but know your in to deep :/

and if someone is able to only spend $5000 on a swap you disclaim it on technicalities lol
"In Complete!"
this is you bowling
"nice strike,,,, but you're toe crossed the line DOESN'T COUNT! DOESN'T COUNT!

That isn't at all what we are saying, but since your grasp on reality is clearly suspect, I don't know that it is possible for you to understand what we are saying, regardless of how we put it.




Hmm. Have you met my soon-to-be-ex-wife? You two would get along great!