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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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S1 VS S2 clutch

I am getting ready to replace the clutch in my 2004 S1 and have seen that there are series specific clutches. Are they interchangeable? Is one preferable? What's the difference?


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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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The S1 and S2 have different 6 speed manual transmissions. I am 99% they are interchangeable, but there is no advantage to running the S2 clutch so just get the stock Exedy for your S1.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 04:47 PM
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The 2004 and 2005 exedy replacement is $339, the 2006-2008 is $329 and the 2009 to 2011 replacement clutch is $259. I'll buy the 2004 part to be sure but the price difference is significant, I can only assume the 2009 to 2011 part is higher volume.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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There is no difference between 2003-2008, where are you getting this info from? And is this the whole kit with pilot bearing, throw out bearing, etc?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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Exedy lists the 2004-2005 as PN MZK1002, 2006-2008 as the MZK1007 and the 2009-2011 as PN MZK1014
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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Exedy says that the all 3 are 236mm in diameter. They all have 23 splines, but the 2004-2005 an 2009-2011 have a 1 1/16 spline diameter versus the 2006-2008 which is 1 1/32.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:12 PM
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I'm 95% sure they are interchangeable. 9K's question is worth answering, however. What all is included in each of these kits? Are you sure you are comparing apples to apples?
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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These are the clutch kit offerings from exedy. They all appear to come with the disc, PP thow out bearing a small tube of lube and what look like they could be o rings or crush washers? I would say pilot bearing but it looks flat in the picture and there are 2 included with the 2004-2005 kit and 2009-2011 and only 1 with the 2006-2008 kit.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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I would just call exedy but I'm sure they will just ask me what year I have and tell me to get the corresponding kit they list.
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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I would email charles@blackhaloracing.com, I have gotten all my Exedy's thru him, he would be able to clarify. I have a S2 transmission in my RX-8 now and when I compared everything I I could not find any differences. I have done several RX-8 clutch installs and three S2 transmission installs with locals and two of us are boosted and Hoss-05 is running the S2 trans with an S1 carbonetic clutch so I am 99% sure there are no changes.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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I gave Exedy a jingle this afternoon. It turns out the 2004-2005 and 2009-2011 kits are the same with the exception of the release bearing. The 2006-2008 has a different disc and I believe he said the same release bearing as the 2004-2005.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 01:07 PM
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I should add, I just looked up the parts from one of the Mazda online parts dealers. Mazda lists the same PN for the 2004-2005 and the 2006-2008 clutches. So either they were the same all along or Mazda feels they will interchange.
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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At the end of the day, I wound up just ordering the part that said it would work, clearly... Just was surprised to see the differences. I hope this has been at least educational for someone other than myself.
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