Rx9 ?
 

Has anyone heard about the next rotary? I read somewhere Mazda was planning the next generation. The article claimed that they are going to invert the engine. Think this is true or BS?

Nope. Haven't heard a thing. There aren't even any posts about it on here...

https://www.rx8club.com/general-auto...ncepts-259962/
https://www.rx8club.com/general-auto...engine-268104/

Honestly, I seriously doubt it will happen. If Mazda does make another RX, I'd put my money on a high-performance hybrid.

I don't know for sure if motor1.com is a "reliable enough" source, but here are two articles that I found while searching a couple minutes ago:

Apparently there was a leaked RX-9 render from mazda:
you can see it here
I'm not 100% sure I believe what I see. I haven't found any other site that mentions anything about it. And it looks like some fan-made hybrid design between a Porsche Cayman and a Mazda 3.

It also seems that Mazda has filed a patent on a new "rotated" engine design:
https://www.motor1.com/news/62035/mazda-patents-a-new-rotary-engine-could-produce-400-hp/]you can read about it here[/url]
here you can see the official filed patent on the United States Patent and Trademark Office website

I'm pretty sure we will se a rotary-powered car in the next few years. Especially since Mazda succesfully developped a compression-ignition piston engine(which means some of the technology could have been brought to the rotary engine).

I'm stoked!

The inverted engine is just a leaked patent.

No idea when or how it's gonna happen. Even if it's a pure ICE engine, expect at least Corvette price range rather than fully loaded Honda Accord price range(which RX-8 was at).

i take delivery of mine next month, first one in the states

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...b78e1a9078.jpg

Itzsoreal - the Mazda RX-9. More clickbait: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...-7-141269.html

i take delivery of my rx9 next month, its got a 3 rotor turbo sky active r direct injection freaking laser ignition and a 6spd m/t. 450hp/400lb

they took up my patent on apex seals made of the hard stuff on the edge of Parmesan Cheese

Looks like Mazda and Porsche had a little accident here...

That's nothing nowadays. LT1 in the C7 Corvette and Gen 6 Camaro makes better figures.

Mercedes can make inline 4 turbos make 400BHP, so the HP/L advantage for rotary is diminishing.

The day that car is in production is the day I eat my own shoe.

Laser ignition is soooooo last century.

The new hotness is laser injection with nuclear magnetic resonance ignition.

2018: 2020: Now this guy gets Mazda marketing!

1.2 gigawatts?

1.2, 1.21, whatever it takes.

Derp.
:pat:

and still going ...

I mean, in this case it's completely baseless speculation from faux autojournos that need page clicks.

... Which I wouldn't have minded, honestly, if the renditions don't look ridiculous.

Some of them look like something Mazda would actually design, while this looks like Mazda front facia slapped on a Porsche. There was that other one that looked more like a Maserati than it looked like a Mazda.

I want Mazda to go crazy like Renault did a couple of decades ago: Put an engine driving the rear wheels in the middle of a hatchback.
https://www.torque.com.sg/features/r...of-notre-dame/

V6? That's cute.

VW had a GTI with a W12 engine with a MR setup. Granted, it was a one-off thing, but the Clio V6 wasn't exactly common with its asking price.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/volksw...2-ar35742.html

One-off vs homologation

I don't see the W12 GTI needing that many changes to be road-worthy. It's just that VW probably didn't bother because nobody will buy it.

Either way, I don't expect Mazda to do something like that with how broke they are.

Fixed.

It has 650 PS. Impressive, but take any ultimate pony car(Shelby GT500/Camaro ZL1 1LE/Challenger Hellcat Demon) and all of them will have similar or more power and acceleration.

The whole point of a hot hatch is practical and affordable fun. No one will pay US$80k+(W12 Phaetons used to cost US$90k+, so just a guess here) for a hot hatch that's not even practical anymore, especially when you can pick up a mid-engine C8 Corvette for US$60k+ that can smoke this thing(2.9 seconds vs. 3.7 seconds 0-60).

since when did 144 mph top speed qualify as “supercar”. Oh, it’s a Renault. :lol:

well you do get a nice front trunk space, so not entirely impractical.

Late 80’s - early 90’s that would have been pretty quick.

A frunk/trunk isn't comparable to a hatch, though. The storage dimensions make it less practical.

It's also a two-seater. So essentially, it's as practical as a Corvette. Hot hatches are more practical than that.

The car is made in the late 90s, so it's not really that fast.

IMO, that's what makes that car great.
Some lunatic took a perfectly serviceable design and went at it with a plasma cutter and made it worse.

Yeah a broke company can’t afford to do this even as a loss leader to attract sales...

Toyota has had more problems ever since they teamed up with Mazda to make cars. These corporate mergers of all these Japanese companies with others/foreign companies are not good signs.

If people keep buying jelly-doughnut cross overs I think the industry is finished.

*Glances at my CX-3, tries to look unobtrusive*

Automotive fashions are just that... fashion. Things will change again in 10-20 years.
Mazda's push to become Japan's Saab (quirky premium brand) is a big gamble.

The big trend is the push on hybrid and eventually EV... Nothing you can really do about that, and they make a cheap EV toaster, I personally will also be interested in one as a city driver.

northzone and I met up the other day and we agree that the 8 is the last dedicated Mazda rotary car. If Mazda gives the idea another go, it will probably be an MX-5 with a rotary engine, which honestly I would be more than happy about. Car weighs nothing anyway so the engine doesn't even have to be that powerful. 250 BHP and we have a little rocket right then and there.

But then again, so would a 2.0T work. Give the current 2.0 engine a very light boost for some low-end grunt and it would also be an appealing car to me.

haha well since it’s a Mazda it’s okay
:rolleyes:

edit: Make Wagons Great Again!
The load height for the rear hatch is lower! And they handle better.

I agree with you there. We’re probably going to be those old geezers looking at the people modding electric cars with inverters and extra batteries lol. Or solar panels...who knows. Flux capacitors anyone?

I personally would go for a hybrid route. Some sort of petrol engine as at least a generator will be welcome in my book. Because knowing myself I can’t remember to charge my phone let alone my car...I still forget to bring grocery bags to the store for a law that was passed 3 or 4 years ago.

If I am not addicted to driving a stick, I would have bought a hybrid. Too bad the only cars that have both of these characteristics are the 1st Gen Honda Insight and Honda CR-Z.

Having the gas engine helps if you don't have a garage/underground parking lot with charging ports.

I like "Make Wagons Great Again". My wife has a 2011 BMW 3-series that we bought used (no issues in 5 years and 50K miles - better than I can say for the 50K I put on my brand new 2007 Honda Accord and was excited to sell when I bought the RX8 in 2015). I now own a GK-series Honda Fit (small hatch = wagon) as my DD - sorry Mazda the used Fit was way cheaper than the used 3-series hatch b/c no one wants the Fit. If Mazda would sell the 6-series wagon here or the Accord wagon I'd buy. Couldn't find in the USofA a Acura TSX wagon that didn't have the engine eating oil issue. Didn't want a VW wagon for reliability reasons.