New Owner SAFE Question and Answer thread
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Seriously. If you have no idea what the light is and how to get the code, you need some basic self education. It's a pretty integral part of every car since 1996, so it's something you should know.
You need an OBD2 reader, or an auto parts store that reads codes for free, or a heafty diagnostics charge at the dealer, or a slightly lower charge at any mechanic.
Seriously. If you have no idea what the light is and how to get the code, you need some basic self education. It's a pretty integral part of every car since 1996, so it's something you should know.
You need an OBD2 reader, or an auto parts store that reads codes for free, or a heafty diagnostics charge at the dealer, or a slightly lower charge at any mechanic.
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quick question.
Looking at getting an exhaust with race pipe. Which will eliminate the cat.
Which I will will have the 2nd 02 sensor unplugged which will throw an engine code.
I was thinking of welding a 02 Sensor Bung for the race pipe to insert the 2nd 02 sensor.
Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this & if they still throw a code after (because of unfiltered exhaust threw cat)
Because than from there ill just maybe look at computer modifications.
Looking at getting an exhaust with race pipe. Which will eliminate the cat.
Which I will will have the 2nd 02 sensor unplugged which will throw an engine code.
I was thinking of welding a 02 Sensor Bung for the race pipe to insert the 2nd 02 sensor.
Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this & if they still throw a code after (because of unfiltered exhaust threw cat)
Because than from there ill just maybe look at computer modifications.
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Most midpipes have a bung for the rear O2 sensor.
A pipe without the bung would have to have one added to avoid the CEL for no rear O2 sensor.
A catless midpipe will still probably throw a CEL due to "catalytic converter below efficiency threshhold" (i.e, you don't have a cat in).
Blocking either CEL is possible by reflashing the ECU with a flash that disables those CELs
This flashing will require hardware and software. The software may be used by someone else to create a flash for you. There are several software options, and a couple hardware options.
A pipe without the bung would have to have one added to avoid the CEL for no rear O2 sensor.
A catless midpipe will still probably throw a CEL due to "catalytic converter below efficiency threshhold" (i.e, you don't have a cat in).
Blocking either CEL is possible by reflashing the ECU with a flash that disables those CELs
This flashing will require hardware and software. The software may be used by someone else to create a flash for you. There are several software options, and a couple hardware options.
Suggestion: Perhaps include a link to what owners LIKE about their cars - https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-things-67045/
Also, while I'm thinking of it, a link to this excellent post on insurance by DocBeech: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-claim-218419/
Also, while I'm thinking of it, a link to this excellent post on insurance by DocBeech: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-claim-218419/
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Suggestion: Perhaps include a link to what owners LIKE about their cars - https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-things-67045/
Also, while I'm thinking of it, a link to this excellent post on insurance by DocBeech: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-claim-218419/
Also, while I'm thinking of it, a link to this excellent post on insurance by DocBeech: https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...-claim-218419/
Post #8 already has the insurance thread. Should I make it stand out more?
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Alright, so I'm here to start fresh with a new car. I know I'm not from America I'm from Europe and I live in Bosnia, anyway enough about me. I'm looking for your recommendation and any tips. I already spent a few hours reading all I could find on this forum and I think I decide I will get this car SOON enough.
I'm thinking about importing it from Germany due to the lower cost there, even with the importing and stuff it's still about 40%! cheaper to buy a used car then it is here.
This website is of course in German, but I know very little German and I still can understand the point of it.
Price is 5,872$ = 4400 Euros
It has driven 88.500 km or 54991 Miles
Date: 12/2003
Mazda RX-8 Revolution Leder-Klimaautomatik Top!Euro 4 als Sportwagen/Coupé in Gernsheim GERMAN
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I'm loving the interior and the paint job looks very good and stylish.
I'm in no way going to buy it without giving it a good exam, and the compression test. I'm not going to jump the gun and buy it without taking a GOOD look. at it.
What do you think guys it, is it worth the money and the distance it has traveled?
Of course I will try to haggle a bit and try to get the price a bit off, I've read a lot of things about it, and I think for the joy it's worth breaking your a** for it.
Picture of CAR: ( I recommend you check the website out, it has some nice shots and the interior is great. )
I'm thinking about importing it from Germany due to the lower cost there, even with the importing and stuff it's still about 40%! cheaper to buy a used car then it is here.
This website is of course in German, but I know very little German and I still can understand the point of it.
Price is 5,872$ = 4400 Euros
It has driven 88.500 km or 54991 Miles
Date: 12/2003
Mazda RX-8 Revolution Leder-Klimaautomatik Top!Euro 4 als Sportwagen/Coupé in Gernsheim GERMAN
Google Translate Translated with Google.
I'm loving the interior and the paint job looks very good and stylish.
I'm in no way going to buy it without giving it a good exam, and the compression test. I'm not going to jump the gun and buy it without taking a GOOD look. at it.
What do you think guys it, is it worth the money and the distance it has traveled?
Of course I will try to haggle a bit and try to get the price a bit off, I've read a lot of things about it, and I think for the joy it's worth breaking your a** for it.
Picture of CAR: ( I recommend you check the website out, it has some nice shots and the interior is great. )
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Question about CEL
I just recently bought a 2004 rx8 gt with a manual trans. Unfortunately it had a rebuilt salvage title. The check engine light is on since i bought it. The last owner said it was a bad O2 sensor. I took it in to a shop to have them read the code which did say it was a bad O2 sensor. When they checked the O2 sensor it came out with a good reading, so they did a full diagnostic check on it. They came up with a bad AFR sensor which they have replaced along with new ignition wires and plugs. The next day my CEL was on again. Long story short I've had it in every week now for about 6 weeks. They still haven't found what is wrong. My mileage is down but other than that the car runs great. If anyone has any ideas about what could be going on any help would be appreciated.
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What is the exact code number?
There are several for each of the two O2 sensors, and several additional codes that can make it seem like an O2 sensor when it's actually something else.
There are several for each of the two O2 sensors, and several additional codes that can make it seem like an O2 sensor when it's actually something else.
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Okays, time to post here first time, dunno if this a stupid question or not *and sorry for my bad english, i'm from Finland*
Anyways, back to the question; I took a look at the new owner thread and have one thing i'm interested about;
Has there been any issues with drivedrain with Rx-8 series? I'm about to buy one and this is the only thing i'm conserned about after reading some threads here.
oh and thanks to RIWWP for a pretty good and informative thread for new buyers / owners
Anyways, back to the question; I took a look at the new owner thread and have one thing i'm interested about;
Has there been any issues with drivedrain with Rx-8 series? I'm about to buy one and this is the only thing i'm conserned about after reading some threads here.
oh and thanks to RIWWP for a pretty good and informative thread for new buyers / owners
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Okays, so now after reading alot more posts i found the info, 6.9bar or more@ 250rpm is healthy. if i didn't read wrong.
The car i'm getting is an 05 with about 45k miles on it, have had full engine rebuild 7k ago because of poor managment of the car *overheating problems in its past* 6speed man. the dealer i'm getting it from said his Ok for compression tests.. Wish me luck
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i know it's not something i'd had to to with those miles, but if the car has been having overheat problems it can't hurt right?
The car i'm getting is an 05 with about 45k miles on it, have had full engine rebuild 7k ago because of poor managment of the car *overheating problems in its past* 6speed man. the dealer i'm getting it from said his Ok for compression tests.. Wish me luck
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i know it's not something i'd had to to with those miles, but if the car has been having overheat problems it can't hurt right?
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I have decided to take the plunge in buying what I consider the most unique everyday car you can own. I've only had 3 cars, but I loved every one, took care of each, i'm not a hardcore enthusiast but i'll say mid level. I've read the "new and potential owners" thread 3 times, looked at the few options for the issues at hand and learned how to "baby my baby"... This I guess is an introduction, I'm Rav.
The car
2005 6Spd Velocity Red 111,---KM/69,---Mi , OE Lip kit, Red on black interior, In dash DVD/Nav (aftermarket), Stock cat and Racing Beat mid pipe to swap, stock rims.
The history
Talked to the current owner he has had it for a few years seems to know how to take care of it. Engine has not been replaced by mazda. Clutch warranty done, few dealer oil changes, will be getting full dealer history on paper tomorrow.
The Issues
Nothing major mechanically, I've listened to some videos of the 8 starting (listening for low compression) this one starts strong. I know I'm supposed to get a compression test at a dealer ...but personally it wont matter to me I WILL buy this car, reason being I have an engine core disassembled and in storage. I will rebuild this core and swap it if the current does ever give problems. I will compression test it at a shop in my area they specialize in rotaries (after i buy it just to see how bad/good it still is) Rusty rear quarter panels , front lip damage, rear brakes.
The questions
The premix/oil injection/lubing the engine, in the new owners thread it doesn't mention the Oil injector Pump Adapter my question is this a viable option for good engine life.
I'm Rav, new to the car and club, but have always been a fan.
P.S... FLAME ON xD
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2005 6Spd Velocity Red 111,---KM/69,---Mi , OE Lip kit, Red on black interior, In dash DVD/Nav (aftermarket), Stock cat and Racing Beat mid pipe to swap, stock rims.
The history
Talked to the current owner he has had it for a few years seems to know how to take care of it. Engine has not been replaced by mazda. Clutch warranty done, few dealer oil changes, will be getting full dealer history on paper tomorrow.
The Issues
Nothing major mechanically, I've listened to some videos of the 8 starting (listening for low compression) this one starts strong. I know I'm supposed to get a compression test at a dealer ...but personally it wont matter to me I WILL buy this car, reason being I have an engine core disassembled and in storage. I will rebuild this core and swap it if the current does ever give problems. I will compression test it at a shop in my area they specialize in rotaries (after i buy it just to see how bad/good it still is) Rusty rear quarter panels , front lip damage, rear brakes.
The questions
The premix/oil injection/lubing the engine, in the new owners thread it doesn't mention the Oil injector Pump Adapter my question is this a viable option for good engine life.
I'm Rav, new to the car and club, but have always been a fan.
P.S... FLAME ON xD
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The questions
The premix/oil injection/lubing the engine, in the new owners thread it doesn't mention the Oil injector Pump Adapter my question is this a viable option for good engine life.
The premix/oil injection/lubing the engine, in the new owners thread it doesn't mention the Oil injector Pump Adapter my question is this a viable option for good engine life.
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04 rx8 CEL blinking
hi, im a new driver on an 04 rx8.. i drove it today and kept 3rd gear on 5k rpm for 3km straight and the CEL came on and start blinking and went off when i changed gear.. and on rpm 7k up it hesitated. need help guys!!
Why would you drive it flat out at 5k rpm for 3km without shifting?
<meh> doesn't matter it should have been ok
Blinking cel 99% of the time means a misfire .. it's the ECU's way of telling you to back off due to a misfire.
Commonly fixed with Coils and plugs, sometimes caused by bad compression.
When was the last time the plugs and coils where changed?
How many km's on the odometer?
Any modifications?
<meh> doesn't matter it should have been ok
Blinking cel 99% of the time means a misfire .. it's the ECU's way of telling you to back off due to a misfire.
Commonly fixed with Coils and plugs, sometimes caused by bad compression.
When was the last time the plugs and coils where changed?
How many km's on the odometer?
Any modifications?
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Blinking CEL is a misfire 100% of the time.
For that: https://www.rx8club.com/tech-garage-...t-here-222280/
A list of CELs from the OEM documentation and their related functions/connections. Look at the field immediately after the CEL text. Only the 3 misfire codes have 'Flash'
U0073 CAN system communication error (See DTC TABLE [MULTIPLEX
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U0101 Communication error to TCM
U0121 Communication error to ABS HU/CM
U0155 Communication error to instrument cluster
U0167 Communication error to keyless control module
For that: https://www.rx8club.com/tech-garage-...t-here-222280/
A list of CELs from the OEM documentation and their related functions/connections. Look at the field immediately after the CEL text. Only the 3 misfire codes have 'Flash'
Code:
DTC # Condition MIL DC Monitor Self-test Memory --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P0030 - Front HO2S heater control circuit problem - ON - 2 - HO2S heater - C, O, R - Yes P0031 - Front HO2S heater control circuit low - ON - 2 - HO2S heater - C, O, R - Yes P0032 - Front HO2S heater control circuit high - ON - 2 - HO2S heater - C, O, R - Yes P0037 - Rear HO2S heater control circuit low - ON - 2 - HO2S heater - C, O, R - Yes P0038 - Rear HO2S heater control circuit high - ON - 2 - HO2S heater - C, O, R - Yes P0076 - VDI solenoid valve control circuit low - OFF - 2 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0077 - VDI solenoid valve control circuit high - OFF - 2 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0101 - MAF sensor circuit range/performance problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0102 - MAF sensor circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0103 - MAF sensor circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0107 - BARO sensor circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0108 - BARO sensor circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0111 - IAT sensor circuit range/performance problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0112 - IAT sensor circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0113 - IAT sensor circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0117 - ECT sensor circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0118 - ECT sensor circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0122 - TP sensor No.1 circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0123 - TP sensor No.1 circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0125 - Insufficient coolant temperature for closed loop fuel control - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0126 - Insufficient coolant temperature for stable operation - ON - 2 - Thermostat - C - Yes P0130 - Front HO2S circuit problem - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, O, R - Yes P0131 - Front HO2S circuit low voltage - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, O, R - Yes P0132 - Front HO2S circuit high voltage - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, O, R - Yes P0133 - Front HO2S circuit slow response - ON - 2 - HO2S - C - Yes P0138 - Rear HO2S circuit high voltage - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P0139 - Rear HO2S circuit slow response - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P0171 - System too lean - ON - 2 - Fuel system - C, R - Yes P0172 - System too rich - ON - 2 - Fuel system - C, R - Yes P0222 - TP sensor No.2 circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0223 - TP sensor No.2 circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0300 - Random misfire detected - Flash/ON - 1 or 2 - Misfire - C - Yes P0301 - Front rotor misfire detected - Flash/ON - 1 or 2 - Misfire - C - Yes P0302 - Rear rotor misfire detected - Flash/ON - 1 or 2 - Misfire - C - Yes P0327 - KS circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0328 - KS circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0335 - Eccentric shaft position sensor circuit problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P0336 - Eccentric shaft position sensor circuit range/performance problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, R - Yes P0410 - AIR system problem - ON - 2 - AIR system - C, R - Yes P0420 - Catalyst system efficiency below threshold - ON - 2 - Catalyst - C - Yes P0441 - EVAP system incorrect purge flow - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, R - Yes P0442 - EVAP system leak detected (small leak) - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, R - Yes P0443 - Purge solenoid valve circuit problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C, R - Yes P0446 - EVAP system vent control circuit problem - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, R - Yes P0455 - EVAP system leak detected (large leak) - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, R - Yes P0456 - EVAP system leak detected (very small leak) - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, R - Yes P0461 - Fuel gauge sender unit circuit range/performance problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0462 - Fuel gauge sender unit (main) circuit low input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0463 - Fuel gauge sender unit (main) circuit high input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0480 - Cooling fan No.1 control circuit problem - OFF - 2 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0481 - Cooling fan No.2 control circuit problem - OFF - 2 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0500 - VSS circuit problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0505 - Idle air control system problem - OFF - - - R - No P0506 - Idle air control system RPM lower than expected - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0507 - Idle air control system RPM higher than expected - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0562 - System voltage low (KAM) - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0564 - Cruise control switch input circuit problem - OFF - 1 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0571 - Brake switch input circuit problem - OFF - 1 - Other - C, O, R - Yes P0601 - PCM memory check sum error - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0602 - PCM programming error - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0604 - PCM random access memory error - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0610 - PCM vehicle options error - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0638 - Throttle actuator control circuit range/performance problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P0661 - SSV solenoid valve control circuit low - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0662 - SSV solenoid valve control circuit high - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P0703 - Brake switch input circuit problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0704 - CPP switch input circuit problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P0850 - Neutral switch input circuit problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P1260 - Immobilizer system problem - OFF - 1 - Other - C, O - No P1686 - Metering oil pump control circuit low flow side problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, R - Yes P1687 - Metering oil pump control circuit high flow side problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, R - Yes P1688 - Metering oil pump control circuit initial check problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, R - Yes P2004 - APV stuck open - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2006 - APV motor control driver IC problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C - Yes P2009 - APV motor control circuit low input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2010 - APV motor control circuit high input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2016 - APV position sensor circuit low input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2017 - APV position sensor circuit high input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2067 - Fuel gauge sender unit (sub) circuit low input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2068 - Fuel gauge sender unit (sub) circuit high input - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2070 - SSV stuck open - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2096 - Target A/F feedback system too lean - ON - 2 - Fuel system - C, R - Yes P2097 - Target A/F feedback system too rich - ON - 2 - Fuel system - C, R - Yes P2102 - Throttle actuator power supply line circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2103 - Throttle actuator power supply line circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2106 - Throttle actuator control system-forced limited power - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P2107 - Throttle actuator control module processor error - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2108 - Throttle actuator control module performance error - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P2109 - TP sensor minimum stop range/performance problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P2112 - Throttle actuator control system range/performance problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C - Yes P2119 - Throttle actuator control throttle body range/performance problem - ON - 2 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2122 - APP sensor No.1 circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2123 - APP sensor No.1 circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2127 - APP sensor No.2 circuit low input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2128 - APP sensor No.2 circuit high input - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2135 - TP sensor No.1/No.2 voltage correlation problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2136 - TP sensor No.1/No.3 (calculation value in PCM) voltage correlation problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2138 - APP sensor No.3 (calculation value in PCM)/No.4 (calculation value in PCM) voltage correlation problem - ON - 1 - CCM - C, O, R - Yes P2195 - Front HO2S signal stuck lean - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P2196 - Front HO2S signal stuck rich - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P2257 - AIR pump relay control circuit low - ON - 2 - Air system - C, O, R - Yes P2258 - AIR pump relay control circuit high - ON - 2 - Air system - C, O, R - Yes P2259 - AIR solenoid valve control circuit low - ON - 2 - Air system - C, O, R - Yes P2260 - AIR solenoid valve control circuit high - ON - 2 - Air system - C, O, R - Yes P2270 - Rear HO2S signal stuck lean - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P2271 - Rear HO2S signal stuck rich - ON - 2 - HO2S - C, R - Yes P2401 - EVAP system leak detection pump control circuit low - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, O, R - Yes P2402 - EVAP system leak detection pump control circuit high - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, O, R - Yes P2404 - EVAP system leak detection pump sense circuit range/performance problem - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C - Yes P2405 - EVAP system leak detection pump sense circuit low - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, O, R - Yes P2407 - EVAP system leak detection pump sense circuit intermittent/erratic problem - ON - 2 - EVAP system - C, O, R - Yes P2502 - Charging system voltage problem - OFF - 1 - Other - C, R - Yes P2503 - Charging system voltage low - OFF - 1 - Other - C, R - Yes P2504 - Charging system voltage high - OFF - 1 - Other - C, R - Yes
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U0101 Communication error to TCM
U0121 Communication error to ABS HU/CM
U0155 Communication error to instrument cluster
U0167 Communication error to keyless control module
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I edited the CEL post here (https://www.rx8club.com/tech-garage-...n-guide-26291/) to be a [ code ] table so it's more easily readable.
