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Old 06-07-2019, 08:01 AM
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These ones do just on the front pillow ball. Just using bearing grease so they are more free to move and to prevent binding.
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He knows they’re cheap and already explained that he just wanted to see how they did for the money. Why don’t you just give it a rest already.
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He knows they’re cheap and already explained that he just wanted to see how they did for the money. Why don’t you just give it a rest already.
Not very self-aware in the irony department, are you Team?
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1000 Mile update. After a few adjustments, noise has been mostly to completely eliminated. I have to say, still very impressed. Might even go so far as to say its a good product especially for the price. You are saving like 80% vs a good set of shocks. If you daily like I do and want to drop your car and have stiffer suspension, these seem like a great option.
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Mate I just bought the same kit, and gave it to my mecanic, however, he refuses to install them because he was afraid it will be too low for the RX8...

I'm just wondering if I got the right coilovers, is it normal that they are way shorter than the originals? And I know that the coilovers will for sure lower the car quite a lot...

I'm running 245 tyres, so, another thing that worries me is the clearance between the tyres and mudguards.

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This is how the coilover looks compared with the OEM one
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The length of the shock is irrelevant, it just means it won't droop as much with wheels in the air.

That picture is misleading, the stock shock has that black section which rises above the mounting points, but doesn't contribute to mounted height at all.

Coilovers won't lower the car much if you set their height appropriately.

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So, I need to change mechanic ( and I need to learn more )

Thanks a lot for the explanation mate, so, in theory it should be fine... Gonna try to install them again and post an update here about how they are performing.

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Old 12-11-2019, 08:03 AM
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So, I need to change mechanic ( and I need to learn more )

Thanks a lot for the explanation mate, so, in theory it should be fine... Gonna try to install them again and post an update here about how they are performing.
Just be forewarned, these do still slam the car down pretty low and it is a stiff suspension. Been running these on my car almost a year now and for me they are awesome. Here is my current ride height, and I clear speed bumps with ease. Mine are close to the highest setting and it's still pretty low.

Edit: my tires are 225 and clear fine with loads of room to spare. 245's wont affect installation and use for you. Just make sure you do a wheel alignment after installation. My friend also installed these on his RX8 and he has mud guards front and back and no issues. May want to take some speed bumps sideways just to be safe.


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what the ... those only have about 2” travel. Maybe.

it probably does ride rough with only 1/3 the travel range as the factory shocks.



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This is how the coilover looks compared with the OEM one




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what the ... those only have about 2” travel. Maybe.

it probably does ride rough with only 1/3 the travel range as the factory shocks.
Rides really rough. When I jack up my front on one side the rear wheel comes off the ground lol. I’m young and the car handles amazing so I’m fine with that trade.

edit: Almost ready to do a 1 year review. Amazing kit for the price but I’m sure I’ll need to replace these with something better soon. These are a great short term solution but you will be left wanting more.

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Originally Posted by CaymanRotary
Rides really rough. When I jack up my front on one side the rear wheel comes off the ground lol. I’m young and the car handles amazing so I’m fine with that trade.

edit: Almost ready to do a 1 year review. Amazing kit for the price but I’m sure I’ll need to replace these with something better soon. These are a great short term solution but you will be left wanting more.
"Amazing" is a very strong word. I have a hard time with it handling amazing (impossibility) and being amazing kit for the price (has to be replaced almost yearly).

In any case... People have had them long enough to develop a consensus that they last about 1 year on average with daily use, before the shocks leak out.

A kid brought a set to the track last month on a Civic, and at least one shock blew out in the 2nd hour. He was my student. They did not, in fact, handle amazing.

They are what we thought they were.

Silver lining: Any time a student brings a set to the track, I can smile at the knowledge I will have the afternoon to focus on improving my own driving.

If you want to go cheap, at least buy Tein.

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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
"Amazing" is a very strong word. I have a hard time with it handling amazing (impossibility) and being amazing kit for the price (has to be replaced almost yearly).

In any case... People have had them long enough to develop a consensus that they last about 1 year on average with daily use, before the shocks leak out.

A kid brought a set to the track last month on a Civic, and at least one shock blew out in the 2nd hour. He was my student. They did not, in fact, handle amazing.

They are what we thought they were.

Silver lining: Any time a student brings a set to the track, I can smile at the knowledge I will have the afternoon to focus on improving my own driving.

If you want to go cheap, at least buy Tein.

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For $200 it’s pretty amazing to me at least. I could run these no problem for another year or longer if I wanted to. I’m just gonna get a better set, looking at Bilstein. Sucks my pilot bearing went forcing me to wait a little longer, just more money out the door... But if you are in a bind or have a tight budget and want coil overs, these work well enough as far as I’m concerned.

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The roads must be pretty smooth and slow there. Hit a bump in a corner at high speed with those and it’s bye-bye birdie, off you go ...
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
The roads must be pretty smooth and slow there. Hit a bump in a corner at high speed with those and it’s bye-bye birdie, off you go ...
Yea, definitely have to be careful. The main roads are alright here but the side roads are very bad. Definitely looking forward to the Bilsteins next year.
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Yea, definitely have to be careful. The main roads are alright here but the side roads are very bad. Definitely looking forward to the Bilsteins next year.
That sounds like amazing handling. I take it all back!
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That sounds like amazing handling. I take it all back!
The handling is great actually. Just beware of side road potholes.
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Alright, one year update! My car is on the lift due to the need to replace my clutch. Took some pics. Seem to be holding up just fine. Just a bit of surface rust on them and nothing else.




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It sounds like you got what you expected.

For me, when it comes to dampers there are a few brands I touch. This is link is an older site and not 100% but is a good place to start:

Autocross to Win (DGs Autocross Secrets) - Buying Shocks

There are a million brands of cheap knock off, look cool but don't do much else coil overs. I stay away from all of those.

Seriously look into a set of Koni Yellows. They are very reasonably priced but have a tremendous amount of rebound range adjustment. Being a twin tube they are a little slow to respond but that can be a good thing depending on the environment. If you want them as a coilover, you can check out Ground Control. They may have a conversion kit for a RX8.
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Keep in mind I paid just $240 USD for this kit. You save over $1000 vs Bilsteins so that's what made them so attractive for me. I have a strict budget on this car and had other problems to fix on it first. For the money, I would say they are totally viable. Would I consider them good? Yes, but only because of the price. If you can afford Bilsteins I would recommend getting them instead. If you are in my shoes building a rat rod on a budget, they are absolutely perfect.
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Originally Posted by apex1
It sounds like you got what you expected.

For me, when it comes to dampers there are a few brands I touch. This is link is an older site and not 100% but is a good place to start:

Autocross to Win (DGs Autocross Secrets) - Buying Shocks

There are a million brands of cheap knock off, look cool but don't do much else coil overs. I stay away from all of those.

Seriously look into a set of Koni Yellows. They are very reasonably priced but have a tremendous amount of rebound range adjustment. Being a twin tube they are a little slow to respond but that can be a good thing depending on the environment. If you want them as a coilover, you can check out Ground Control. They may have a conversion kit for a RX8.
Koni yellows are good in general, but on these cars they're an unmitigated disaster, unfortunately
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Koni yellows are good in general, but on these cars they're an unmitigated disaster, unfortunately


Koni Sport shocks + RX-8 were the winning ticket in SCCA BS autocross for 4 years running.
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Hmm. Maybe for autoX. I tried them on a road circuit and it was a hot mess. The surprise extra drop and high body roll (not the shock's problem but still) meant my front mudflap/fairing things contacted the ground. And it didn't feel good at all.
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Probably because you didn’t recognize all the mistakes you made. Ask yourself why it was rolling over that far in the first place? In general the OTS Konis don’t result in that much lowering and shocks only control the rate of roll.
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Probably because you didn’t recognize all the mistakes you made. Ask yourself why it was rolling over that far in the first place? In general the OTS Konis don’t result in that much lowering and shocks only control the rate of roll.
While I accept that I could have goofed -- I assumed at first that is what had happened -- going back over my work and the installation instructions didn't produce anything new. I don't think the roll amplitude changed from the prior configuration (stock w/ R3 shocks/springs), the combined drop of the springs (Eibach) and induced drop of the Konis put me at about 12.5" ride height, so body parts contacted ground. I realized later that perhaps the instructions were generic and the instructed shortening of the bump stops was not applicable to this car, but Koni technical support was of absolutely no help in figuring this out.


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