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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 12:58 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 06:43 AM
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This car doesn't have an EGR valve or pipe:/ What exactly did you replace and clean then?

Have you reset the ECU after all these changes?
Replacing the MAF is very rarely necessary. Try putting the old one back and see if it changes. Make 1000000% sure there are no leaks, however small, in the intake tract. You can use an OBD reader to check long term fuel trim when the car is idling cold. If its higher than say 8, you have a vacuum leak that may be playing into this.

The catalytic converter is a weak point on these cars, and often results in a P0420. Remove it and visually inspect the catalyst lattice for damage.

What kind of coils did you install?
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 08:22 AM
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Sounds like a bad Catalytic Converter. You have the faulty air pump code, bad catalyst code plus a misfire in rotor 2. Make sure you take it down and check it. If it's clogged or you see the catalyst is damaged, time to get a midpipe and let that car breathe.
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Loki
This car doesn't have an EGR valve or pipe:/ What exactly did you replace and clean then?

Have you reset the ECU after all these changes?
Replacing the MAF is very rarely necessary. Try putting the old one back and see if it changes. Make 1000000% sure there are no leaks, however small, in the intake tract. You can use an OBD reader to check long term fuel trim when the car is idling cold. If its higher than say 8, you have a vacuum leak that may be playing into this.

The catalytic converter is a weak point on these cars, and often results in a P0420. Remove it and visually inspect the catalyst lattice for damage.

What kind of coils did you install?
it does have an egr valve. Connected to the air pump. Reset ecu yes.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07784ZMYP?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07784ZMYP?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

the thing is no cel thats whats throwing me off. It was running really smooth, any fuses or relays i should look out for?

unless it is just a coincidence and the cat went bad
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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unless it is just a coincidence and the cat went bad
This is what is likely the problem based on the info you gave.
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 11:40 AM
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Did ecu reset and put original maf . Same

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Sounds like a bad Catalytic Converter. You have the faulty air pump code, bad catalyst code plus a misfire in rotor 2. Make sure you take it down and check it. If it's clogged or you see the catalyst is damaged, time to get a midpipe and let that car breathe.
Did ecu reset and put original maf. Same

can i remove just the cat and replace it? Or is it welded on
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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Its removable. Just take it out and inspect first. Could also try to run it with the cat off and see if it makes a difference. If it does then that's your problem for sure.
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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Its removable. Just take it out and inspect first. Could also try to run it with the cat off and see if it makes a difference. If it does then that's your problem for sure.
I removed it today. Heard a little bit of rattling inside, very light.
tried starting without it on, car takes a little bit to turn on but not the way in the video. So i dont know, probably have to take it to mazda
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:03 PM
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I removed it today. Heard a little bit of rattling inside, very light.
tried starting without it on, car takes a little bit to turn on but not the way in the video. So i dont know, probably have to take it to mazda
So it's nothing obvious then. You have fuel trim data?
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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So it's nothing obvious then. You have fuel trim data?
No not yet. My buddy has the better scanner for that. Maybe tomorrow. Made an appointment with mazda
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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If you haven't compression tested in a while, best have Mazda do it for you while it's in. First thing they should do actually.
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 11:40 PM
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If you haven't compression tested in a while, best have Mazda do it for you while it's in. First thing they should do actually.
Appreciate it!!
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 01:24 AM
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Appreciate it!!
No problem. If the engine is the issue, makes no sense to replace parts.
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