Coolant Leak (Series 2)
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Coolant Leak (Series 2)
[Posting here because the forum is still marking me as a newbie.]
2009 (series 2) Manual with ~35k miles (bought used).
About 3-4 months ago I noticed the coolant was not at the full line and since then have had to add coolant 3-4 times. Each time the coolant has either been at the L line or a bit above it. Two weeks ago I added fluorescent dye to track down the leak and then got in there to look around. I attached pictures of what I discovered.
There was coolant that had collected around the passenger side of the engine down around the top of the oil pan. I didn't find anything around the water pump, thermostat or on the associated coolant hoses and nothing up around the radiator. And the location of where I found the coolant is behind and below the water pump so I don't see how a leak starting there would get to the region around the oil pan without leaving a trail. I took out the battery, oil pan rock guard and splash shield to get in there and get a good look.
I'm concerned that the leak is actually due to a blown water seal between one of the irons and the front rotor since I haven't been able to find an external leak source, however there is no coolant in the oil (checked dip stick) and no smoke comes out the back.
Also the car is completely up-to-date on everything and the coolant was completely flushed last year when I replaced the coolant reservoir due to a Mazda bulletin. I've been using one of the PEAK brands of 50/50 coolant (Maryland) since that flush.
Any ideas? I've also included a pic of a bare engine for reference. You can use the horizontal threads on the bolt in my pic to match up the location on the bare engine pic. Thanks for any help! [Could a moderator please move this to the Series 2 tech and trouble shooting forum for better visibility?]
2009 (series 2) Manual with ~35k miles (bought used).
About 3-4 months ago I noticed the coolant was not at the full line and since then have had to add coolant 3-4 times. Each time the coolant has either been at the L line or a bit above it. Two weeks ago I added fluorescent dye to track down the leak and then got in there to look around. I attached pictures of what I discovered.
There was coolant that had collected around the passenger side of the engine down around the top of the oil pan. I didn't find anything around the water pump, thermostat or on the associated coolant hoses and nothing up around the radiator. And the location of where I found the coolant is behind and below the water pump so I don't see how a leak starting there would get to the region around the oil pan without leaving a trail. I took out the battery, oil pan rock guard and splash shield to get in there and get a good look.
I'm concerned that the leak is actually due to a blown water seal between one of the irons and the front rotor since I haven't been able to find an external leak source, however there is no coolant in the oil (checked dip stick) and no smoke comes out the back.
Also the car is completely up-to-date on everything and the coolant was completely flushed last year when I replaced the coolant reservoir due to a Mazda bulletin. I've been using one of the PEAK brands of 50/50 coolant (Maryland) since that flush.
Any ideas? I've also included a pic of a bare engine for reference. You can use the horizontal threads on the bolt in my pic to match up the location on the bare engine pic. Thanks for any help! [Could a moderator please move this to the Series 2 tech and trouble shooting forum for better visibility?]
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Well crap...I'm using the long life version. I remember reading about the 2-EHA issue on the forums a while back but must have missed this when actually buying coolant. That "all makes & models" advertisement really gets you.
Besides doing a coolant flush and either getting some FL-22 or another non 2-EHA brand any thoughts?
I'm still not sure though that the leak is coming from a damaged engine seal since there aren't any typical coolant in engine symptoms.
Besides doing a coolant flush and either getting some FL-22 or another non 2-EHA brand any thoughts?
I'm still not sure though that the leak is coming from a damaged engine seal since there aren't any typical coolant in engine symptoms.
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Also are we potentially going down a rabbit hole about the whole 2-EHA, PEAK etc thing?
Look at what the guys over at this forum said: https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...L22-antifreeze
"Just got an email back from Old World Industries (the guys that make Peak, Sierra, and other antifreeze brands). They say FL-22 is a Motorcraft extended life coolant and that either Peak Global Lifetime or Peak LongLife Antifreeze can be added to FL-22 without issue. Both of those are silicate free, and at least LongLife is also phosphate free. So, I'll be topping off with the LongLife I have on hand."
Look at what the guys over at this forum said: https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...L22-antifreeze
"Just got an email back from Old World Industries (the guys that make Peak, Sierra, and other antifreeze brands). They say FL-22 is a Motorcraft extended life coolant and that either Peak Global Lifetime or Peak LongLife Antifreeze can be added to FL-22 without issue. Both of those are silicate free, and at least LongLife is also phosphate free. So, I'll be topping off with the LongLife I have on hand."
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(sorry if this posts twice I thought I replied but it didn't show up)
Are we maybe going down a rabbit hole about the whole PEAK, 2-eha etc thing?
Based on this thread it sounds like peak long life is safe:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...L22-antifreeze
"Just got an email back from Old World Industries (the guys that make Peak, Sierra, and other antifreeze brands). They say FL-22 is a Motorcraft extended life coolant and that either Peak Global Lifetime or Peak LongLife Antifreeze can be added to FL-22 without issue. Both of those are silicate free, and at least LongLife is also phosphate free. So, I'll be topping off with the LongLife I have on hand.
Thanks for the help, fellas!"
Are we maybe going down a rabbit hole about the whole PEAK, 2-eha etc thing?
Based on this thread it sounds like peak long life is safe:
https://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...L22-antifreeze
"Just got an email back from Old World Industries (the guys that make Peak, Sierra, and other antifreeze brands). They say FL-22 is a Motorcraft extended life coolant and that either Peak Global Lifetime or Peak LongLife Antifreeze can be added to FL-22 without issue. Both of those are silicate free, and at least LongLife is also phosphate free. So, I'll be topping off with the LongLife I have on hand.
Thanks for the help, fellas!"
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Another thing you can do is lending a coolant system pressure tester and then getting under the car to see where that comes out from.
Coolant is one of the few things I make sure I go OEM, so yeah FL-22. It's not something you have to replace often and saving a couple of bucks can sometimes cost you more down the road.
Coolant is one of the few things I make sure I go OEM, so yeah FL-22. It's not something you have to replace often and saving a couple of bucks can sometimes cost you more down the road.
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