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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 09:12 AM
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Cel flashing

I have an 04 and my cel is flashing code reads as cylinder 2 misfire and o2 sensor. If I replace plugs that are clearly bad should that fix it.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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If the CEL is flashing, that means stop driving it.
What is the specific code for the O2 sensor?

Definitely check your plugs but you may also need new ignition coils. If it has been misfiring for a while, you may have damaged your catalytic converter so have that checked out, as well. A bad cat can clog up the exhaust and cause a heat to build up near the exhaust ports. This will cause a coolant seal failure which will require an engine rebuild.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 10:00 AM
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I haven’t driven it the minute it popped on she got parked. She is at the garage (Mazda) I just want to make sure I am on the same page as the tech
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 10:03 AM
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If you're uncertain about the age of the ignition coils or they're older than 30k miles, replace them. This is not a joke. Failing to do so kills engines.

Since you also have a cat code, have the cat removed and inspected visually inside. If the catalyst has broken, it will also kill your engine.

If the plugs look bad, definitely replace them, but not at the dealer. They'll charge you way to much. Go to a NAPA or similar store and get spark plugs, wires and coils for much cheaper.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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She has been parked for four years that’s why she is at the dealer
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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Information that should have been included in your first post...
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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I don’t have the resources or people where I live to fix her my family is 3 hours from me. She has been in dry storage 4 years. The check engine light had come on the day I put her in storage so she has been sitting since. I was informed that the plugs can cause the misfire which I figured and the o2 code could from the misfire. I had bought the plugs but didn’t get them in before she was parked
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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I know enough about cars to get me by with regular maintenance but rotary engine I am not an expert on I just want to make sure I’m not being screwed. I know the dealer is expensive but I have no other choice and don’t trust many with my regular cars but this is my baby so I’m just looking for advice and opinions
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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How old is the gas? Is it 4 years old as well?

That could be a factor as well.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:41 PM
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The tank has been drained the fuel pump was a recall so that has been replaced and new fuel filter
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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To be honest, I don't think the spark plugs are particularly difficult to change. Any mechanics should be able to do it, really. If anything, the spark plugs are easier to do than on a BRZ or WRX(good luck with those flat 4 plugs)... Same with coils and wires.

Just make sure you put in the right spark plugs(leading and trailing) and connect the wires correctly.

Depending on where you live, it may help to start investing your own tool set. More initial investment, but less money in a long run.
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 12:59 PM
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We changed the plugs and still the cel is flashing. I am in about 1300 for window keys battery oil change bulbs plugs. They said the coils are 85 a piece so I hope that’s what the problem is and that the o2 is from the misfire. It’s cylinder 2 that is the code. Fingers crossed that’s it because I’m running out of money fast If I didn’t love this car I would be done with it. Any thoughts
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 01:34 PM
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From what I have read misfire = plugs coils plug wires changed and check cat.
https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/rx-8-symptoms-causes-249529/

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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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Plugs and wires are new cat is okay so leaves coils fingers crossed
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 01:56 PM
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Could also be ESS sensor, ESS tone wheel or ESS profile.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 04:56 AM
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The coils should be replaced when you replace the plugs and wires. These really go together on this car. Keep us updated on what happens after the dealer replaces the coils as it sounds as though the dealer is doing the work.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 10:25 AM
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So my issue is not a coil it’s the fuel ratio sensor. How bad is it to drive it with that being bad? I guess it’s like the o2 sensor but more advanced and first in line
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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If it failed where it is reading rich and you drive. You will end up with it running leaner and leaner. Lean conditions are not good to our engine's. All it takes is one good detonation event and you have to have a rebuild. The up stream o2 sensor is the more expensive of the 2.
can you get the cel codes and post them. A lot of good people on the forums. Just find out what codes you are getting and post them up. You can also look up the codes. Dont let a mechanic give you any end that cost you unnecessarily.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 10:44 AM
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I found the sensor on amazon for $100. I’m just going to get it from the dealer then in a couple weeks get the sensor done from a local mechanic. That way the car isn’t sitting at the dealer and I can’t give them another 400 to do it there
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 11:07 AM
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How did you determine that's the problem? It sounds... unlikely.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 11:24 AM
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The tech spent an hour and a half checked to see if the spark was traveling and it isn’t a spark problem
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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It would help if you could share the actual codes the computer is showing. There are multiple O2 sensor codes (the "fuel ratio" sensor is just an O2 sensor). O2 problems don't usually show up as misfires.

There is a difference between "has spark" and "has good spark"

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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 12:04 PM
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I will get the actual codes I am going to pick it up from the dealer in the next couple days
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 09:25 PM
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I couldn't find the thread. A member of the forums did go through and test disconnecting the o2 sensors and maf. It would throw codes but the consensus was that the default closed loop was good enough to let the car run with out major problems. I would definitely find another shop. I would fallow loki's points to check also. (Check the ecentric shaft sensor and trigger wheel). Best of luck.
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 07:57 AM
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An air fuel ration sensor is an EXTREMELY unlikely culprit. There would be a stored code indicating that it was reading incorrectly and the tech would have to look at the live date and freeze frame date to help determine what exactly what was happening when the code was stored. Fuel trims would be a little wonky with a bad AF sensor, but I've never seen a bad AF sensor cause a misfire. Did he ohm the AF sensor to determine if it was faulty? Did he check the wiring from the AF sensor to the ECU and was the ECU tested? These are all things to consider when diagnosing a faulty AF or O2 sensor.

Remember, a coil can pass a resistance check and still be faulty. Replace the coils.
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