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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 05:58 PM
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Best way to remove lower intake manifold?

Ok guys i have been tearing my 8 apart all day clearing the engine bay , fuel injectors, etc...

I got the UIM off and i would like to take the lower intake manifold off.

Whats the best way to approach this, i saw a few people say it can be done without removing the engine.

On the other hand i have heard the opposite.

Whats the best way to go at this without removing the engine?
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 06:16 PM
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The only way might be to get the engine over as far as possible, which is highly questionable, to the opposite side. That would require pulling motor mounts and brackets and having the engine suspended on a lift. Try searching, seems like one or two people tried and it’s a major pain without pulling it all out. The ideal way is to drop the entire subframe with engine out the bottom and then pull the manifold off. You pretty much need a lift to do it that way though.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 06:22 PM
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Because you need enough clearance to get past the intake mounting studs and extract the APV barrels out . Be advised that the tabs where the barrel valves secure to the actuator arm are very fragile. Some of the parts are not sold separately by Mazda. So be extremely careful. Not really recommended to even try it in the engine bay. They’re about 5 or 6 inches long or so.




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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
The only way might be to get the engine over as far as possible, which is highly questionable, to the opposite side. That would require pulling motor mounts and brackets and having the engine suspended on a lift. Try searching, seems like one or two people tried and it’s a major pain without pulling it all out. The ideal way is to drop the entire subframe with engine out the bottom and then pull the manifold off. You pretty much need a lift to do it that way though.





What about disconnecting the left engine mount, sticking a small jack in the engine bay and moving the engine over to the right?
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 03:38 AM
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Let me clarify that this only applies to a 6-port engine. The early 4-port auto trans cats don’t have the APV system.

Otherwise, you’re kind of on your own to figure out how to do it. You need to learn how to search, or perhaps it’s more accurate to say you need to learn how to be patient spending many hours searching and reading.
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 05:54 AM
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To remove the lower intake manifold you must remove the engine from the 8. There is no other way around it. I've been through it. The engine comes out in a couple hours at most. Nothing terrible to do and you can ensure everything is cleaned properly before reassembly.
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 06:02 AM
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Comes out mostly complete. Here are a couple pictures from when I replaced the engine in my BB 04:

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:45 AM
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I concur w/Team and Mazdaverx7... this is NOT a six in one hand, half a dozen in the other thing. Sometimes there is no shortcut to simply doing what m/b done. I could post up more pics..., see my build thread "Curts Gr8t 8 Turbo Build" thread ~post #90 if you like,...but IMV the advice given and pics already posted here s/b sufficient to validate that attempting to remove the LIM w/ the engine in the bay, if even possible, is a fool's errand.

All the best, mate.

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx7
To remove the lower intake manifold you must remove the engine from the 8. There is no other way around it. I've been through it. The engine comes out in a couple hours at most. Nothing terrible to do and you can ensure everything is cleaned properly before reassembly.

This is the argument i have been hearing when i start searching the website and forums.

I can link you to a few people who say its possible by jacking the engine to the side.

Here is a video of some random guys claiming to have removed it by removing a stud that was in the way for clearance.

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx7
To remove the lower intake manifold you must remove the engine from the 8...
Originally Posted by jcbrx8
... attempting to remove the LIM w/ the engine in the bay, if even possible, is a fool's errand.
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Originally Posted by finalturismo
This is the argument i have been hearing when i start searching the website and forums...

Here is a video of some random guys claiming...

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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 05:57 AM
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To be fair, it's far easier to just remove the engine. I can have the engine out and on a stand in about 2 and a half hours. And that's working slow. In my personal opinion, it's easier to remove the engine rather than manipulating the engine in the engine bay and jacking to to one side to remove the lower intake manifold. I understand it's a short cut and it may work, but for me I'd rather do it the right way and not risk breaking anything in the engine bay by manipulating the engine. Just my opinion.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx7
To be fair, it's far easier to just remove the engine. I can have the engine out and on a stand in about 2 and a half hours. And that's working slow. In my personal opinion, it's easier to remove the engine rather than manipulating the engine in the engine bay and jacking to to one side to remove the lower intake manifold. I understand it's a short cut and it may work, but for me I'd rather do it the right way and not risk breaking anything in the engine bay by manipulating the engine. Just my opinion.
I concur with this. Just pull it. Its not super hard. That being said I've only done mine a few times by dropping the subframe, Which is incredibly easy. I tried to cut corners with my BNR turbo install. It hands down took way more time by not pulling the motor
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Old Dec 24, 2019 | 06:16 PM
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The advantage of dropping it down is you just drop it down. It doesn’t have to come completely out, just down far enough to get the manifold off/on.
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