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200.mph 07-17-2014 09:42 AM

i would gladly help riwwp but i have about four days worth of stuff to do before saturday morning

RIWWP 07-17-2014 09:48 AM

of course, I meant more that if I do pull it, then saturday/sunday people are welcome to come over to help put it back together :lol:

keck03 07-17-2014 12:29 PM

Wouldn't a NA miata still be as fast as a NA rx8?





............;)

RIWWP 07-17-2014 01:03 PM

Presumably, although mine is 200lbs heavier, and the only thing to offset that is the fact that the turbine will still be spooling on exhaust energy a bit, not enough to generate boost, but enough to increase the intake efficiency more than an N/A car.

After all, most turbo cars show a power increase over N/A versions even before boost kicks in.

keck03 07-17-2014 01:45 PM

I really do hope you come. It gives me a chance to relive my MSM glory days! lol

I was actually drooling over a new black club edition on the street last wknd. I just hate how depreciation proof those cars are. I really see myself owning one again someday.

200.mph 07-17-2014 02:01 PM

keck your getting married and your still being openly ghey?

RIWWP 07-17-2014 02:01 PM

The track car I want to build would be a 2009-2014 NC. Plentiful enough that finding a wrecked one without frame damage is entirely viable, parts lists are cheap, cheap running costs, really lightweight and can be stripped a hell of a lot lower and ballasted up to competition weight, has the RX-8's suspension under it (if a shorter wheelbase), I/H/E puts it to NASA TTE class power to weight limits with enough points left over for really good coilovers, sways, and sticky tires. Or I can bump to TTD class, adding a tune to be right on that class's p/w, with a ton of points left over for 285 width A6s. The reason I'd go for a 2009+ rather than a cheaper 2006-2008, is that the engine internals are strengthed, so if I want to add FI and jump TTC-A, I can do that with "free" upgrades that won't cost me money or mod points.

Just the MSM is too rare to turn into a full on track car, and too uncomfortable to use as a daily. I tried getting a piece of both worlds, but ended up with neither. So I just need a car for each. :lol:

I picked up a compression tester, so that is the first thing I'm doing, then I think I'm going to pull the exhaust from the cat to the tips, leaving only the downpipe, and give it another test. If that solved it, then that solved it, but I suspect it won't. Several experts are telling me that it is probably a set of stretched manifold-to-turbo studs, and I already have a set of iconel studs on hand to swap in.

If I haven't pulled the turbo yet before Saturday morning, I'll drive down for it, even though it's wasting time.

keck03 07-17-2014 04:10 PM

I was at the last local dealer new car show and sat in one. So did my fiancee. I couldnt believe how roomy and comfortable they are when compared with my msm. My fiancee stared at me blankly and said it felt like a deathtrap.

Ironically my stepfather is shopping for another NA (chassis).

I think they also fixed the looked of the refreshed NC and the stock suspension is supposed to be worlds better. I would get claustrophobic by the end of each winter in the msm.

I cherished the stigma attached to the MSM. Nothing better than wiping someone's smirk off their face pulling away from them at a dead stop. It just never had the top end. And the stock 205/40 tire punishes you.

200.mph 07-18-2014 06:32 AM

i have so much to do after work today and im sure i wont have time to get it all done. my car will probably be dirty so dont judge.

any of you guys bringing a gf/wife/so?

sonicsdaman 07-18-2014 06:50 AM

My GF doesn't like when I drive recklessly so she is having a girls day, I'll most likely be showing up by myself

200.mph 07-18-2014 07:18 AM

im on the fence about bringing a "friend" but she could keep me occupied on the long drive

keck03 07-18-2014 07:42 AM

I am showing up solo as well. The "wife" is not a fan of my aggressive driving. Gets nausea.

200.mph 07-18-2014 07:46 AM

keck you drive aggressive? dont believe it lol

so has riwwp made a decision yet? i wish it wasnt so dam early. ive been working my ass off everyday for the past two weeks. havent got to bed before 12-12:30 and i get up early. anyway enough of my bitching, how far is it from where i meet you two?

sonicsdaman 07-18-2014 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4615241)
keck you drive aggressive? Dont believe it lol

so has riwwp made a decision yet? I wish it wasnt so dam early. Ive been working my ass off everyday for the past two weeks. Havent got to bed before 12-12:30 and i get up early. Anyway enough of my bitching, how far is it from where i meet you two?

50 mins/47 mi

200.mph 07-18-2014 09:02 AM

so any word on pearl? i read hes having boost leak issues in his build thread.

RIWWP 07-18-2014 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4615241)
so has riwwp made a decision yet?


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4615266)
so any word on pearl? i read hes having boost leak issues in his build thread.

Yeah, BOV failure it looks like. Hunting for a replacement I could get in time, but it's unlikely unless maybe Keck still has a sparee laying around somewhere?


Originally Posted by keck03 (Post 4615138)
I cherished the stigma attached to the MSM. Nothing better than wiping someone's smirk off their face pulling away from them at a dead stop. It just never had the top end. And the stock 205/40 tire punishes you.

I was never on the stock wheel/tire combo, I bought mine with 15s already on it, and going to aftermarket coilovers meant I was lower, stiffer, but also more comfortable. The stock shocks are brutally valved compared to the springs. The 3.63 rear gear gives me plenty of top end though. 104mph is top of 4th, 2 more gears to go. Aero stability gets to be a problem at 130, but I could get plenty higher on the stock IHI turbo at 202whp. Once this one is working right...

I imagine I've surprised quite a few people dropping the hammer from a light, but I've never been slow enough to be back where they are to find out. I know I HAVE shocked quite a few people on the top end though, like pulling up Mt Hope on I-80 at part throttle in 6th gear from ~75 to um, much much higher, and once I back off, someone comes roaring up behind me, and slows, looking the car over like "WTF!" It's usually a BMW that does that. Happened a dozen or so times.

keck03 07-18-2014 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4615270)
Yeah, BOV failure it looks like. Hunting for a replacement I could get in time, but it's unlikely unless maybe Keck still has a sparee laying around somewhere?

Ironically I do have an old school greddy type s laying around. Unfortunately its buried in a pile of tools and car parts in the back of a 20x10 storage facility waiting for me to move into my new house aug 29. Either way I wouldnt have the universal greddy flange for it. I also had a greddy type rs and I sold the flange with it.

VTA ALL DAY EVERY DAY!!! lolol


I once had a Prof/Sheepdog bov on my mr2. Talk about rare.....

keck03 07-18-2014 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4615270)
I was never on the stock wheel/tire combo, I bought mine with 15s already on it, and going to aftermarket coilovers meant I was lower, stiffer, but also more comfortable. The stock shocks are brutally valved compared to the springs. The 3.63 rear gear gives me plenty of top end though. 104mph is top of 4th, 2 more gears to go. Aero stability gets to be a problem at 130, but I could get plenty higher on the stock IHI turbo at 202whp. Once this one is working right...

Is that the euro final gear? My first year with the msm I put 30k on it all highway and was debating getting it. 4k at 80mph in 6th just flat out sucked.

keck03 07-18-2014 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4615233)
im on the fence about bringing a "friend" but she could keep me occupied on the long drive

The definition of irony is Jesse being the only person showing up with a significant other. :)

IIRC last time Sonic followed me up to your place, it took like 1.5 hours.

RIWWP 07-18-2014 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by keck03 (Post 4615349)
Ironically I do have an old school greddy type s laying around. Unfortunately its buried in a pile of tools and car parts in the back of a 20x10 storage facility waiting for me to move into my new house aug 29. Either way I wouldnt have the universal greddy flange for it. I also had a greddy type rs and I sold the flange with it.

VTA ALL DAY EVERY DAY!!! lolol


I once had a Prof/Sheepdog bov on my mr2. Talk about rare.....

Yeah, I'll be going VTA at some point. Turns out it's not my BOV after talking with some experts. Back to the drawing board.


Originally Posted by keck03 (Post 4615350)
Is that the euro final gear? My first year with the msm I put 30k on it all highway and was debating getting it. 4k at 80mph in 6th just flat out sucked.

Wasn't sold in Europe, but yeah, the Australian gearing. 80mph is 3,600rpm in 6th, and 6th gear doesn't hit rev cut until 154mph. :suspect:


Originally Posted by keck03 (Post 4615353)
The definition of irony is Jesse being the only person showing up with a significant other. :)

:rofl:

sonicsdaman 07-18-2014 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by keck03
The definition of irony is Jesse being the only person showing up with a significant other. ?

IIRC last time Sonic followed me up to your place, it took like 1.5 hours.

:lol:

yea but wasnt there slow traffic?

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keck03 07-18-2014 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4615359)
Wasn't sold in Europe, but yeah, the Australian gearing. 80mph is 3,600rpm in 6th, and 6th gear doesn't hit rev cut until 154mph. :suspect:

Thats right. My memory is a bit foggy. I remembered it was somewhere overseas. There was a big rush on the boards to get it and then people starting having issues with garages installing it so I wussed out.

Its a shame you won't be able to make it. Someday I'll make it up there.

RIWWP 07-18-2014 03:54 PM

At this point I probably can make it, just postpone pulling the exhaust until after I get back. Who knows, I might find a clog in my intake piping late tonight and suddenly have full power back for tomorrow :suspect:

or I could pull my exhaust anyway and drive down there like that...

keck03 07-18-2014 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by sonicsdaman (Post 4615363)
:lol:

yea but wasnt there slow traffic?

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Must have been the slow car following me in my mighty mazda3 ! lol

I think its closer to an hour if you take the turnpike

sonicsdaman 07-18-2014 04:48 PM

UPDATE

we are postponing for an hour.

if youre meeting up for the caravan its now 930 meetup at the arbys/pizzahut

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