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Old 03-10-2005, 08:23 AM
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The Rotory Car Club of Chicago seems to be more of a social club. There is talk of setting up a track day at Gingerman Raceway, but that isn't set yet.
We're working on that. Keep in mind, we're trying to rebuild from the ground up, so unfortunately things are going to take a little while to get organized.
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
I also want to do at least one track event this season... either RoadAmerica or Gingerman with the RX7 club.
I am also planning to trying to autocross the 8 after a 15 yr. layoff.

I haven't driven Gingerman and would like to try. Road America turn 9/10 should be fun with with this car, followed by the pucker facter of turn 11.
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I've raced motorcycles on both Gingerman and Road America. I like Gingerman much more, it's way more technical in my opinion and allot more fun. Road America has way too much straight connecting it's corners if you ask me, but it would be kind of fun to stretch the RX-8 legs a bit.

I've driven the RX8 at Gingerman, it was an absolute blast. The price can't be beat, it was like $60 from 5:30 till dark (about 8:30) on Tuesdays, Wednesday, and Thursdays. The track manager (Bob) was supper accommodating and one of the nicest track managers I've ever encountered. Keep us posted if there are going to be any Mazda events at either track.

I'm going to be doing a few auto-crosses at Miller Park in Milwaukee, quite a few cars from Chicago at those events. First I have to do is decide on BS or Street Tire and then get some tires ordered
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I'm ordering magmetic numbers for autocross. For SCCA events, if I run in Street Tire, would I use the letters "ST", I assume the class letters for B Stock would be "BS"?
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I signed up for the learning curve. There was one at least one other RX8 (a red one) signed up, looked like a husband and wife..

Anyone from RX8 club? Also anyone else signed up?






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The SCCA Solo School is actually called the "Learning Curve". I'm biased, since I've been instructing at it for the past few years, but it is the most schooling you will find for $100 anywhere. The school is two days, and the classroom session is only about the first 2 hours or so on Saturday morning. You should get 6-10 runs on each of two small courses on Saturday afternoon, with your instructor, and other 6 or so on the full course Sunday, again with your instructor riding. Also, on Sunday, instructors and other workers drive their own cars, so you can generally go for a number of educational ride-alongs.

Registration is open at http://register.scca-chicago.com/

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Road America turn 9/10 should be fun with with this car, followed by the pucker facter of turn 11.
They re-configured that section of Road America, and added "The Bend" before the Kink. Not many club events use the old course anymore ( too many cars balled-up in the Kink ).

I'm ordering magmetic numbers for autocross. For SCCA events, if I run in Street Tire, would I use the letters "ST", I assume the class letters for B Stock would be "BS"?
For Street Tire class, the only letter on your car should be an "S" ( or "L", if you are running Ladies ). Please don't get creative and put more than that, it only confuses matters. B Stock is "BS". Also, please make sure your numbers are *at least* 8 inches tall, and *at least* 1.25 inches in stroke, and in a consistent, contrasting color to your car ( 4" by .75" for class letters ). Keep in mind that people need to read your number and class from 100 feet away as you fly by at 60mph.

Thanks.

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I went with 10 inch numbers and 5 inch letters.

Is the 4 inch letter a minimum?




Originally Posted by hillman
They re-configured that section of Road America, and added "The Bend" before the Kink. Not many club events use the old course anymore ( too many cars balled-up in the Kink ).



For Street Tire class, the only letter on your car should be an "S" ( or "L", if you are running Ladies ). Please don't get creative and put more than that, it only confuses matters. B Stock is "BS". Also, please make sure your numbers are *at least* 8 inches tall, and *at least* 1.25 inches in stroke, and in a consistent, contrasting color to your car ( 4" by .75" for class letters ). Keep in mind that people need to read your number and class from 100 feet away as you fly by at 60mph.

Thanks.

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Old 03-14-2005, 02:31 PM
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Hey Hillman,
Are you the guy from planet torque?

Good schedule of events that you have there:

http://planet-torque.com/sche.php
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Is the 4 inch letter a minimum?
Yes, but don't make the class letters larger than ~half of your numbers.

Are you the guy from planet torque?
Yes, thanks. Lots of autocross in-car video, too, in case anyone out there is wondering what autocross is like. Still many spots open in the Learning Curve school mentioned above.
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Here's my photos of the Labor Day weekend autocross at Joliet - it's a great place to run. I"ll be running most of the events this spring and summer - street tire class this year, then perhaps invest in some racing tires for next year.

Also, note my numbers ...

http://www.cowspot.net/autox

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Originally Posted by StewC625
Here's my photos of the Labor Day weekend autocross at Joliet - it's a great place to run. I"ll be running most of the events this spring and summer - street tire class this year, then perhaps invest in some racing tires for next year.

Also, note my numbers ...

http://www.cowspot.net/autox

Stew

Which clubs are you running with?
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Hillman: Good job at the autcross. You beat me by 2.682 seconds. I was the guy in the black RX8. We met briefly. How did your students do? Did you drive their RX8s? What were your impressions of the 8 as an autox car?

Stew: Are you going to the Chicago SCCA event in Joliet next Sunday? If so, try to find me. I'm in a black RX8.
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How did your students do? Did you drive their RX8s? What were your impressions of the 8 as an autox car?
Only one of my students had an RX-8, the other had an MR2. They were both mid-pack among the students. One coned away some time, the other was consistently improving all weekend.

I drove the RX-8 once each on the short courses Saturday. To be honest, I really did not like the RX-8 at all. Conventional wisdom says a properly setup '8 will be faster than my car, or anything else in B Stock, but that's hard for me to believe. Granted, the one I drove was bone-stock on OEM tires, but it understeered resolutely, felt ponderous and huge, had surprisingly slow steering and lacked helmet-room to boot. Seats and brakes are nice, though, and it does have a ton of power.

For now, it's off my list of "cars I might one day buy".
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Originally Posted by hillman
Granted, the one I drove was bone-stock on OEM tires, but it understeered resolutely, felt ponderous and huge, had surprisingly slow steering and lacked helmet-room to boot. Seats and brakes are nice, though, and it does have a ton of power.

For now, it's off my list of "cars I might one day buy".
I'm surprised that you found the car to not have enough head room. I'm 6'2" and I don't have a problem. Did it have the sunroof?. I will be out Sunday after a long layoff from autocross.
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Originally Posted by hillman
For now, it's off my list of "cars I might one day buy".

That's how I felt after I tried to get into and out of a new Elise.

Sorry you didn't like the RX8, I had a blast with mine out there. I guess it all depends on what you are used to. I'm coming from BMWs that were much heavier and sloppier than the RX8. The RX8 is much much more fun to autox than my bimmer.

We were running much higher tire pressure than your students though, not sure if that made a difference in the handling.
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I'm okay with not liking the RX-8... my 15 year-old MR2 is a /lot/
cheaper. The one I drove did have a sunroof, and I may not have had
the seat all the way down, but still, I'm under 6'.

I'm sure if I jumped in an RX-8 from, say, my old Legacy wagon
that I ran for two years, I'd love it.

See you guys Sunday.

I'm bad with names, and only slightly better with faces...
Machan, you're Matthew Reid, right? The same one bringing an
XKE on Sunday?

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Originally Posted by hillman
I'm okay with not liking the RX-8... my 15 year-old MR2 is a /lot/
cheaper. The one I drove did have a sunroof, and I may not have had
the seat all the way down, but still, I'm under 6'.

I'm sure if I jumped in an RX-8 from, say, my old Legacy wagon
that I ran for two years, I'd love it.

See you guys Sunday.

I'm bad with names, and only slightly better with faces...
Machan, you're Matthew Reid, right? The same one bringing an
XKE on Sunday?
That's me, except the XKE will look a lot like a RX-8 . I've heard Mazda likes to snoop the SCCA results to void warranties so I list my car igcognito.

I was told I could list my car as anything as long as it was in the same class, B stock in this case. In retrospect, I probably should have just listed it as bstock or left it blank or something.

Although, my father said he would leave his silver 69 XKE to me in his will and I could turn it into an autox car .

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Originally Posted by Machan
I've heard Mazda likes to snoop the SCCA results to void warranties so I list my car igcognito.
Man, I'd love to get some more RX8s down to the event from Chicago. I promise Mazda won't snoop results for warranties on our two autocross tracks.
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Originally Posted by MichRX7
Man, I'd love to get some more RX8s down to the event from Chicago. I promise Mazda won't snoop results for warranties on our two autocross tracks.
I'd love to join you because it sounds like fun but I have a slight issue. If I went to something like that, my wife would kill me...

I'm doing an autocross this weekend and then a DE on April 30th-May 1st. I'm also doing a local autcross here on April 23rd and a friend is visiting me. Maybe next year???
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Originally Posted by Machan
That's me, except the XKE will look a lot like a RX-8 . I've heard Mazda likes to snoop the SCCA results to void warranties so I list my car igcognito.

I was told I could list my car as anything as long as it was in the same class, B stock in this case. In retrospect, I probably should have just listed it as bstock or left it blank or something.

Although, my father said he would leave his silver 69 XKE to me in his will and I could turn it into an autox car .
Where did you hear about Mazda snooping. I have hear that it was ether Mitsubshi or Subaru that was doing that. I hadn't hear it about Mazda.

As far as the XKE. That car is worth too much to modify for autocross. I wouldn't even risk it in any competition. Does it have the 6 or 12 engine?
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
Where did you hear about Mazda snooping. I have hear that it was ether Mitsubshi or Subaru that was doing that. I hadn't hear it about Mazda.

As far as the XKE. That car is worth too much to modify for autocross. I wouldn't even risk it in any competition. Does it have the 6 or 12 engine?
I just heard that from my instructor and fellow student at the autocross school.

As for the XKE, I disagree. Cars are made to be driven. The 69 jaguar that I'm referring to is a 6 cylinder fixed head coupe.

My father also has a 62 ( I think), one of the first 200 made and also a 73 V12 roadster. Now those are worth too much to modify or risk in competition. :D
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
Where did you hear about Mazda snooping. I have hear that it was ether Mitsubshi or Subaru that was doing that. I hadn't hear it about Mazda.

As far as the XKE. That car is worth too much to modify for autocross. I wouldn't even risk it in any competition. Does it have the 6 or 12 engine?
Allan,

I see you are signed up for the SCCA event at Joliet. I'll try to stop by and say hello. Good luck on Sunday.
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Hi Alan,
It was nice to meet you and congrats on your finish. You placed one spot in front of me.

Sorry I didn't get a chance to say goodbye. Since I had already worked, I bolted early since I was beat and had a long drive home.

I probably won't do many SCCA events this season but I'll participate more next year. Good luck with your season.
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Bumping for '06, since there's a lot of good information in this thread,
especially the first two pages.

The Learning Curve school is in two weeks ( April 1-2 ) and is about 75%
full right now. No RX-8 drivers are registered yet.

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo
http://register.scca-chicago.com

See you there.
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