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lilring 04-28-2008 04:30 PM

DYNO DAY- TBD

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune

lilring 04-28-2008 06:44 PM

hey this might be a stuiped question but do i need the cobb sport thing to do this?

Phish806 04-28-2008 06:59 PM

If you want your car to be tuned then yes you need some form of engine management. Many people are going with the COBB Accessport instead of a piggyback unit. However, if you just want to dyno your car and see what power it is making then you do not need the AP.

I am sure if you want to purchase one MazdaManiac would be happy to sell you one or bring you one to buy on the day of the dyno.

luis_o_98 04-28-2008 06:59 PM

DYNO DAY- TBD

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune

Macius8 04-28-2008 07:09 PM

I'm in for a dyno, no tune. If I manage to get everything for my turbo, I'll have a Int-x to tune, but that's highly unlikely within the time frame.

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune
5. Macius8 - dyno only

Phish806 04-28-2008 07:13 PM

i know what ya mean ... i am just waiting on my midpipe and i am hoping a month is enough time for Mazsport to get it to me. Then i figure Jeff can just bring an accessport for me to buy to the dyno. Hopefully things go as planned.

tdiddy 04-28-2008 07:41 PM

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune
5. Macius8 - dyno only
6. tdiddy - MM tune

Yes, I have already asked MM and he is willing to fly in for a dyno day. I'm sure Charles R. Hill will come along too. I have not discussed prices with MM for his services but I'm sure they are reasonable.

I really want MM to come because he has tunes already made for both N/A and Turbo cars. Any other shop that can tune the AP is not going to have this. I'm not saying I wouldn't allow them to use my car to develop a turbo tune but it is going to take time. Time I don't really want to pay for.

Anyway, once we get price quotes from a couple of different shops we will have a better idea. I have not heard from OP and I didn't hear from the shop I contacted directly. I'm sure they will get back to me it just might take a couple of days.

As far as dates, It looks like it might be June before we could do anything. I say this because May 24-26 is a holiday weekend. I like May 31st but it looks like the Chicago group is planning to go to a Cubs game that day. This leaves us with June 7th or June 14th. There is a Lakeshore meet planned for June 7th but unless we get about 20 cars signed up we should be done by then.

What do you guys think?

Phish806 04-28-2008 08:00 PM

I agree with having MM tune. It would be much quicker but also at the same time it seems like MM is "the man" to have your car tuned by now a days as far as a rotary goes. haha..

As far as the date goes, either one of the june weeks would be good for me. Maybe see what works best for jeff?

RWagz 04-28-2008 08:23 PM

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune
5. Macius8 - dyno only
6. tdiddy - MM tune
7. RWagz - MM tune / Install?

This is conditional - if I get the turbo installed in time. I've thought about asking if MM could do the install while he's here. Of course, any cost associated with getting him out here for extra days for this would be my responsibility. Still, it would likely be cheaper than the other plan I had: Driving out to Phoenix.

Phish806 04-28-2008 08:55 PM

hmm... i am not sure if MM would do an install that far from home, and you would probably have to supply the shop and tools for the install. Maybe see if charles would do the install, I hear he does alot of work on the 8 and is alot closer to where you live.

RWagz 04-28-2008 09:14 PM

Never hurts to ask.

Phish806 04-28-2008 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by RWagz (Post 2433734)
Never hurts to ask.


Agreed

lilring 04-28-2008 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Phish806 (Post 2433447)
If you want your car to be tuned then yes you need some form of engine management. Many people are going with the COBB Accessport instead of a piggyback unit. However, if you just want to dyno your car and see what power it is making then you do not need the AP.

I am sure if you want to purchase one MazdaManiac would be happy to sell you one or bring you one to buy on the day of the dyno.

sorry another stuiped question.. (im still learning about our cars) is it possible to tweak the oem computer and make it better that way? or not?

devildog1679 04-28-2008 10:57 PM

I ask that we don't do it the weekend of the 14th or 21st because I'll be in NY getting wasted :)
The 7th is perfect

devildog1679 04-28-2008 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by lilring (Post 2433927)
sorry another stuiped question.. (im still learning about our cars) is it possible to tweak the oem computer and make it better that way? or not?

Yes, there is that is what the AP is for. People from the CA dyno day had a increase of 19HP from the AP. That's more then anyother mod out there short of FI.

cheeto 04-29-2008 12:08 AM

Chet - MM tune

Razz1 04-29-2008 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by devildog1679 (Post 2434033)
Yes, there is that is what the AP is for. People from the CA dyno day had a increase of 19HP from the AP. That's more then anyother mod out there short of FI.

That's misleading.

there is no base dyno.

You can NOT judge the tune using the base AP map.

You need to know what your car dynos before the AP install.

That will tell you how much you will gain.

During testing last year TeamRx8 got 222 RWHP w/ his mods.

RWagz 04-29-2008 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by cheeto (Post 2434142)
Chet - MM tune

Please add yourself to the bottom of the established list when expressing interest. This ensures that your post does not get lost in the background noise of the thread and helps out the rest of us to accurately determine overall interest. Also, use your actual rx8club screen name so it's easier to contact you for event organization.

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune
5. Macius8 - dyno only
6. tdiddy - MM tune
7. RWagz - MM tune / Install?
8. cheeto - MM tune

cheeto 04-29-2008 01:46 AM

my bad

RWagz 04-29-2008 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by cheeto (Post 2434267)
my bad

It's all good :)

devildog1679 04-29-2008 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Razz1 (Post 2434167)
That's misleading.

there is no base dyno.

You can NOT judge the tune using the base AP map.

You need to know what your car dynos before the AP install.

That will tell you how much you will gain.

During testing last year TeamRx8 got 222 RWHP w/ his mods.

I'm just restating what people posted, that is that even though the Dyno #'s were out of wack some increased 19HP from their base run. If this holds to be true this can be the single largest gain from any mod short of FI.

tdiddy 04-29-2008 08:01 AM

RWags - PM me because we need to talk about how to get your turbo installed before this dyno day.

Everybody else - Great Job but keep trying to recruit. I figure we need at least 12-15 people to make this work cost wise.

tdiddy 04-29-2008 08:02 AM

Razz - everybody knows your not happy with the dyno numbers. Get over it!

devildog1679 04-29-2008 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by RWagz (Post 2434231)
Please add yourself to the bottom of the established list when expressing interest. This ensures that your post does not get lost in the background noise of the thread and helps out the rest of us to accurately determine overall interest. Also, use your actual rx8club screen name so it's easier to contact you for event organization.

1. Devildog1679- MM Tune
2. Phish806 - MM Tune
3. lilring - MM tune
4. luis_o_98 - MM tune
5. Macius8 - dyno only
6. tdiddy - MM tune
7. RWagz - MM tune / Install?
8. cheeto - MM tune

8 people is good, based on prices I've seen in Madison this would mean $81 for the Dyno rental for the whole day (not including MM's Fee). lets rally the troops, the more we get the cheapr it will be:)

tdiddy 04-29-2008 08:11 AM

I agree $81 is totally cool with me. But, I have to help with MM plane tickets, hotel, and tuning fees. Thats why I would really like to see at least 12 people 10 of which wanting a MM tune. Come on guys I know we can do it!!!


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