BlueRenesis82

bah only 8 mil

Red Devil

Well, my rear pads were getting pretty low anyway, but I glazed my Bobcats last night. I got out half the first session, glazed them then spent the next two sessions sanding the rotors and trying to work off the glaze with my OEM rear pads that I had with me. Eventually it worked, I got out for one full session. And completely wussed it up out there. I think I only heard the tires groan once or twice and just a little. I was taking most turns at the speeds I was last summer, but the Tein Coilovers seem to have really raised the bar for how the car can perform.

devildog1679

The 8 with an upgraded suspension can deffinitly be driven further past the stock limits. At RA i felt as though the car was planted firmly to the ground. Nice to here you had a good time.

More_Revs

oh yes. I knew you have upgraded suspension after the first turn. It felt good. Stock is a little soft. How dare you tempt me out of B Stock!

Waiting a call to see if I can get my alignment done today or tomorrow. Hopefully he can squeeze it in. I need more than 0 camber in front.

devildog1679

What specs are you asking for?

More_Revs

I'll see if I can at least put 1.5 deg camber in front and 0 toe. about the same camber for the rear (maybe a little less) and 1/8 in toe in. As it is now, the back will rotate under power, but it under steers during turn in.

devildog1679

What i got was

Front
Camber -1.5 both side
Caster 6.8
Toe- 0

Rear
Camber -1.9
Total Toe in 1/8

More_Revs

How do you like the rear? I know everybody's doing it, but I don't quite get why more camber in the rear than the front? I'd think the car will still understeer. I can see that being as added safety though.

devildog1679

You felt the car at the track, it feels fine for me. But I'm no expert by any means.

More_Revs

Me no expert either...your car felt great. It did felt to me like it was understeering a little at turn 12 toward the end, but that's probably the tires. I wasn't the one driving, so I don't know.

Sounds like the guy might be able to squeeze it in for me tomorrow, so I'll see what I can get.

mac11

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people are doing that to try to bring the car back to neutral feeling based on their spring rates.


you need to factor in your spring rates and how you personally like the car to drive to pick a good alignment setup for you.

everything else being equal less static negative camber in the rear would cause more oversteer/less understeer.

devildog1679

Just finished bedding in ther xp8's and bobcats man are those xp8's noisy and dusty. There is no way I can drive those around for more than a day. Stopping power is excellent though. Thanks for the info guys.

mac11

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Its hilarious to drive them on the street and **** everyone off.


oh yea and when you get them warmed up the noise will go away. That is actually pretty much how you know they are warmed up - they are quite and grippy.

devildog1679

People were looking at me as if my car was going to blow up.

mac11

iTrader: (1)

give them the finger and drive off.

mac11

iTrader: (1)

I may use those pads on the street just to discourage those around me from yacking away on their cell phones while driving.

devildog1679

BlueRenesis82

if you really want to see dust check out the Hawk HP+

those are RIDICULOUS

BlueRenesis82

I use my spinners for that

devildog1679

Just got back, nice track not as fast as RA but it does have a nice technical area with about 4 turns back to back that I found hard finding the proper line to take. By the third session I had though. 5 sessions for $160 definitely worth it. By the way I locked up the brakes in the first turn of the first session. Damn those xp8 bite hard. It requires much less pressure than stock.

ehutch91

Thanks for coming out and having fun. The day went really well and the weather was perfect. There was hardly anybody in the last couple sessions. Most people were worn out by then. We're doing another lapping day on Friday, June 22nd. Same price 2 hours for $160.

devildog1679

You can count me in, and the weather was absolutly perfect. I may try and make some of events that ther Madison club holds. I actually have a question, 3rd gear grinds but only when i shift above 6500 rpm When I shift bellow 6500 its smooth.

BlueRenesis82

how far is blackhawk from madison?

ehutch91

I would assume its a synchro thats getting worn out. Higher rpms means the gears are spinning faster and the synchro can't do its job of slowing things down. But thats just a guess. Blackhawk is right around an hour from Madison. Maybe less if you live on the east side.

BlueRenesis82

so its about a 2 hr drive for me