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Old 03-03-2004, 04:34 PM
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[i]In comparison, the lowest visited regional forum (Mountain) had twice as many active threads in February, and more than twice as much traffic. It is only kept separate because that area just doesn't fit well in other regions, it's not separate due to traffic alone. It still might be a candidate to be merged with another region somewhere down the line.

It's just not nearly enough to warrant it's own section on traffic alone.

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We may want to get this mountain forum crankin' if we want it to stay alive. We can't let all Omicron & Doc's work go to waste!!

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Old 03-04-2004, 02:39 PM
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There are no plans for the mountian forum to go anywhere.
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Old 03-04-2004, 02:43 PM
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Good to hear.

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Thanks Toadman. That comment was a bit worrisome.
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Old 03-04-2004, 02:55 PM
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I apologize if my post caused any un-needed concern!

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Old 03-05-2004, 09:40 AM
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Nah, not at all. Glad you noticed it so we could get it cleared up.
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Yea, thanks Toadman! I'm with Omicron about the commentary being a bit worrisome.
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Old 03-06-2004, 12:56 AM
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The mountain forum was doing alright 'till Omicron registered.
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Old 03-06-2004, 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Digisan
The mountain forum was doing alright 'till Omicron registered.
LOL!!! :D

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Old 03-07-2004, 07:26 PM
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Old 03-08-2004, 01:49 AM
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Digisan, where ya been, man? We got a hot little club goin here and you're not a part of it, and you SHOULD be, IMHO. You still interested?
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:32 PM
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Sorry, I am sad (well not really:-) to say that I will not be a resident of Colorado much longer. I'm relocating to VA to take a new job (I'll be able to pay off my 8 much faster).
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i was wondering if the rx8 ran differntly because of the high altitude in colorado?
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Old 04-02-2004, 06:25 PM
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Well, no car runs as strongly at high altitudes as it does at lower. The air is just thinner here - no getting around that. But, all cars here are equally handicapped, and you do get used to it. Only time you really notice it is when you drive the car to lower altitude, then it's like "Man, this thing is FAST!"
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:24 AM
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Hey glad this forum ain't going down.. should expect it
to jump once its really spring here, though it is snowing
right now, more people would look at our lovely car once
the weather is more consistantly warm. Hey Omicron,
Mach-8 did ask a good question, since your the man,
has your mpg been whats advertised due to our
location?
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Omicron
...But, all cars here are equally handicapped...
Not true.

Turbos can produce the same manifold pressures in high altitudes as lower altitudes (as long as you aren't already at the compressor's efficiency limits at lower altitudes, which they normally aren't in most street cars). You have a little more turbo lag, but that's about it.

That's why most WWII bombers were turbocharged.

Octane is something you have to be careful with up here, though. For normally aspirated and supercharged cars, the lower altitude does effectively lower compression, so you can run lower octane at higher altitudes. But turbos still require the same octane, so if we can't get the same octane fuel up here, a turbo owner might have to pull back some timing, or even back off a little boost.

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Originally posted by Sputnik
Not true.

Turbos can produce the same manifold pressures in high altitudes as lower altitudes (as long as you aren't already at the compressor's efficiency limits at lower altitudes, which they normally aren't in most street cars). You have a little more turbo lag, but that's about it.

That's why most WWII bombers were turbocharged.

Octane is something you have to be careful with up here, though. For normally aspirated and supercharged cars, the lower altitude does effectively lower compression, so you can run lower octane at higher altitudes. But turbos still require the same octane, so if we can't get the same octane fuel up here, a turbo owner might have to pull back some timing, or even back off a little boost.

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See, now, i didn't know that. Yet another reason that I want a turbo (or two! :D) on my '8.
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Originally posted by Anubis Rising
Hey glad this forum ain't going down.. should expect it
to jump once its really spring here, though it is snowing
right now, more people would look at our lovely car once
the weather is more consistantly warm. Hey Omicron,
Mach-8 did ask a good question, since your the man,
has your mpg been whats advertised due to our
location?
SInce getting the "L" flash done, I am now getting an average of 18 MPG in the city with my '8... and I'm not babying it. I redline at least once a drive (for theraputic reasons! ) and shift around 4-5K. Before the L flash, I was getting 15-16 MPG unless I forced myself to shift below 3.5K, then I could achieve 18 MPG. But not worth it! Still have yet to get it up on an extended highway cruise.
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Originally posted by Sputnik
Not true.

Turbos can produce the same manifold pressures in high altitudes as lower altitudes (as long as you aren't already at the compressor's efficiency limits at lower altitudes, which they normally aren't in most street cars). You have a little more turbo lag, but that's about it.

That's why most WWII bombers were turbocharged.

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Hey thats cool! I didn't know that either.. Knew that about the
bombers, but never put 2+2 together.. from the south
originally (Texas) so when I visit family and friends even
in my Aerio do notice a slight boost Thanks Omicron,
totally understand the therapy! Now I want a turbo for my
future 8 too!
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Old 04-04-2004, 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Anubis Rising
Hey glad this forum ain't going down.. should expect it
to jump once its really spring here, though it is snowing
right now, more people would look at our lovely car once
the weather is more consistantly warm. Hey Omicron,
Mach-8 did ask a good question, since your the man,
has your mpg been whats advertised due to our
location?
Yeah, my question is whether I can make myself wait until the Mazda warranty runs out. Tough call.

Hey Anubis, has anyone asked you if you want to join with us in the Rocky Mountain RX8 Club? You've probably seen we've got a major meet coming up in June... love to see ya there!
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Hey Paul....

I've seen similar results after the "L" re-flash, too. Unfortunately, I took a trip out to Wendover, where I was averaging around 90 mph with cruise set (6th gear) and my mileage was HORRIBLE in comparison to how it drove without the flash (fine tradeoff for me, though). City driving definitely improved for me, but it seems the additional power I got above 5k is robbing my fuel economy. May be just a fluke trip, though. I may have had a horrible headwind or something I wasn't aware of. <shrug>

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Originally posted by Omicron
SInce getting the "L" flash done, I am now getting an average of 18 MPG in the city with my '8... and I'm not babying it. I redline at least once a drive (for theraputic reasons! ) and shift around 4-5K. Before the L flash, I was getting 15-16 MPG unless I forced myself to shift below 3.5K, then I could achieve 18 MPG. But not worth it! Still have yet to get it up on an extended highway cruise.
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Originally posted by Anubis Rising
Hey thats cool! I didn't know that either.. Knew that about the
bombers, but never put 2+2 together.. from the south
originally (Texas) so when I visit family and friends even
in my Aerio do notice a slight boost Thanks Omicron,
totally understand the therapy! Now I want a turbo for my
future 8 too!
Now mind you, that's not the only reason the bombers were turbo-ed. A turbocharged engine normally has a better power/weight ratio than a N/A engine, which is a huge consideration on aircraft (and on sports cars).

The Santa Fe and Southern Pacific railroads also purchased turbo diesel locomotives instead of equally powered normally aspirated diesel locomotives for high-altitude use for the same reasons.

Papa loves turbos . Which is why I'm going to sorely miss my Miata.

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Thanks Sputnik for the education! fellow WWII aircraft buff
myself.. and yeah Omicron, joining shortly! Looks like the meet
is after my birthday.. coincidence?
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Originally posted by Landon_Starr
Hey Paul....

I've seen similar results after the "L" re-flash, too. Unfortunately, I took a trip out to Wendover, where I was averaging around 90 mph with cruise set (6th gear) and my mileage was HORRIBLE in comparison to how it drove without the flash (fine tradeoff for me, though). City driving definitely improved for me, but it seems the additional power I got above 5k is robbing my fuel economy. May be just a fluke trip, though. I may have had a horrible headwind or something I wasn't aware of. <shrug>

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I noticed today that a 6th gear cruise at 90 MPH is almost 5000 RPM. Well into the secondary fuel injectors firing, close to the tertiary. Don't recall where they kick in, prolly around 6X00 RPM. Anyway, that could explain it.

So how bad was your mileage?
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Originally posted by Sputnik
Now mind you, that's not the only reason the bombers were turbo-ed. A turbocharged engine normally has a better power/weight ratio than a N/A engine, which is a huge consideration on aircraft (and on sports cars).

The Santa Fe and Southern Pacific railroads also purchased turbo diesel locomotives instead of equally powered normally aspirated diesel locomotives for high-altitude use for the same reasons.

Papa loves turbos . Which is why I'm going to sorely miss my Miata.

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Very interesting stuff Sputnik... but, what's happening to your Miata?
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