New MazdaManiac BASE Calibrations
 

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PLEASE READ THE "INSTRUCTIONS INSTRUCTIONS" THREAD IF THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE THE LEAST BIT UNCLEAR.
In fact, read the "Instructions Instructions" even if you believe you totally understand what is being explained here.

Anyone else see the A/F ratio in the 16s during cruise with the BASE calibration? Oh well.. quicker death for the CAT! Midpipe to come!

That will happen. That means you have under-sized injector scaling.

Yes - the point is to get the coolant down to "cold start" territory.
Really, any coolant temp below 120° is probably adequate.

Well, that would be on the cusp, so to speak. But I guess "yes" should be the right answer since I actually said "MazSport Ignition" in the original post!!!!
The main point of the need for a custom start-up calibration was that there would be some people that had setups that wouldn't run at all without one.
The MazSport ignition really doesn't fall into that category, but I figured there would be some with FI and that ignition that wouldn't be safe without a custom start-up calibration.

Please people - Read the first post THOUROUGHLY. I am not going to answer questions that are directly addressed in it.

I was wondering if you have calibrations for the esmeril turbo kit?

I know what I'll be doing on Friday night / Saturday. :fruit:

Jeff, still wondering on that AEM CAI thing. I plan to do this test with your new base map on saturday. Should I install the AEM CAI or should I keep the greddy intake? Please let me know so I can do this right the first time :D

I ask because this is not written in your post as something from the the 10 deadly questions and we have had this discussion before. But last time i installed it with the base map I have on right now my idl AFR's were horrible and sputtering.

alien: whatever parts you plan on having on your car, do the testing with THAT.
These are new base maps, you should see different results. Even if you don't, then at least Jeff can work on getting you a map that works well with your setup. (48 hour turn around sounds nice)

Based on Jeff's response, I'm guessing he found a way to tune the maps without 2nd and 3rd gear WOT which sounds AWESOME.

this is awesome!

Ok then I will test it out on friday. Hopefully this time around I can actuallyd rive the car with the intake haha. Last time it would turn off and everything :(

By the way Jeff, any update on my order??

I cant wait for those injectors so I can install the new turbo.

NO! Please read the first post CAREFULLY.

Jeff: Thanks for the clarification on the temperature. Chicago winters suck a little less now.

Now I just have to wait for Ray and the gang to ship my damn coil kit :eyetwitch

I haven't had a chance to look at the new features yet, but from what I'm gathering, it now data logs? Does this mean we can just use this for the data logs for the performance oriented tunes? Or do we still need to use a separate data logger and make graphs?

And does this replace the previous method where we run the car with the starting map then choose the next map based on our fuel trim showed? And if so, will we need to do the WOT runs and data log them again? Just making sure because I'm almost done with graphing my data log and want to make sure to get it right the first time before I send this one off...

These questions are directed at anyone who can answer...

Ah I completely misread that...

I know the 'base' calibrations do not provide performance benefit but when I read "collecting data for proper calibration of your particular car" I mis-read that as getting a 'tuned' map for the car.

Sorry had a very long night =)

Makes sense now.

Easy Boss! That would be why I sent my email before asking on the forum. You said a while back you didn't touch timming unless you had to like for MazSport FI sets ups. I am just trying to make sure you didn't get flooded with emails for NA base maps when there is nothing your going to do with them anyway. I Also didn't see a reason to wait for a return email for something I could have gotten off your 1st post. Less work for you less work for me Saves you time saves me time.

No worries - follow directions - can do. :)

As MM stated read the 1st post very carefully...everything you asked is answered in his FIRST POST! You only get one calibration

u rock!

Ok, done. And I'm still looking to clarify that I need to redo the whole graph process. If I remember correctly, with the previous set of instructions, you were supposed to get your base map and drive the car for 150+ miles before getting your data log of the WOT runs. Does that still apply? Or can I just start my car up and run out to do my runs? I'm guessing it's the same process, but since I cant seem to find that stated anywhere, I wanted to confirm this. If we do need to do that, I'll find every excuse I can to drive... otherwise, I'm not in a rush to rack up the miles on my car needlessly.

edit: found the 150+ miles thing in the email that was sent out when I first got it. It must have been edited out of his original method's post.

Awesome.

So we don't need a separate base for CA cars?

when you download your file it will ask you a series of questions which will take you to your file. It asks for model year, federal/california, MT/AT and NA/FI. Once you've gone through and selected all your things it has the link to download your file. So, in short, you will have a different one if your car is a CA car.

So we do the datalog procedure right after the second drive cycle of the install? Ie. the engine is at operating temperature when we start logging? Just making sure.

I checked 2004 and didn't see a CALIFORNIA option. 2005 and 2006-2008 have one, but not 2004.

"Drive cycle" means up to temperature and back to cool again. In other words, cool it off again before the third drive that you data-log.
I'll clarify the first post further.

There is no difference between California and Federal models in 2004 (2003).

Thanks!

well, just finished my first drive cycle.

When I first got my AP a few months ago I found out I had an 05 version in my 04 car. But today when I went to reinstall it recognized it as being an 05 cali. I'm guessing it's nothing to worry about since it worked fine with the 05 cali file but any guess as to why that happened? Did something in COBB's update change the way it recognizes it?

I'm revoking the MazSport caveat to the Base Calibration set.
If you are running ANY ignition system, use the provided base calibrations.
Any changes in dwell will be addressed later as these calibrations, as noted, are NOT designed to do anything other than provide preliminary data.
They do NOT contain any "tuning" and will not challenge any ignition system any more than a stock tune would.

If you are boosted, the same precautions apply. You should NOT be pushing too far into boost with these base calibrations.

man, I wish there wasn't snow and ice on the ground.... :anger:

:scratchhe I know what ice is, I use it in my Margaritas.

But what is this "snow" you speak of?

Its a strange substance people in the northern latitudes use to capture urine - usually in the shape of their name.

I got your logs and you didn't even include an idle log as the instructions request.

It's pretty neat. I hadn't heard of it here in san antonio till last night. Apparently when it gets really cold and it's raining, it will turn to this light fluffy white stuff... It turned to water when it hit the concrete but it just slowly drifted down to the ground...

JEFF (MM)

Any word on my order?

So what Frank said was true,,,,
, "Don't you go where the Huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow".

:uhh:

no need to rub it in :lol2:

uh...fail...?

the instructions don't get any clearer...I don't understand how people have so many problems following simple instructions :dunno:

no wonder Jeff gets frustrated....I do just reading some of the posts in this thread :lol2:

:beer05: here you go MM, you deserve one...or ten :P

over time hopefully... friends dont let friends drunk tune...

^lol

yes.

Quick question... you say for the 2 driving cycles to drive it carefully? why is that? (again... question for anyone who knows)

maybe cuz it's not the proper calibration yet? :dunno:

I swear to god I read the first post... if we have a custom map we should still do this, correct?

1) Prudence.
2) The calibration is very, very generic.

The idea is to get data. So, there is NO fuel tuning, no MAF tuning and no injector scaling.
In theory, it should run like stock.
However, I have learned a LOT about theories over the past couple of years and, well, I'm gonna stick with what I know.

Yes. I will clarify the instructions further.

but that makes me wonder... how carefully... from what it says in the first post, we'll be waiting up to 3 days for the proper calibration. Does this mean we drive carefully that whole time?

That's up to you. Its your car.
You'll be waiting probably longer than 3 days. That is just the turn around for the customized base calibration. It will then take a few more data logs using that modified data to get proper performance tuning.
If you feel the car is safe to drive - drive it however you like. Only you know what is proper for your situation.

lol

Added just for you:

awesome blossom... I'm playing with the data logging but was unsure of scrapping my super awesome custom map

You could always get another one from scratch and compare. Kind of an A/B comparison.

Oh Jeff, I've been spoiled running your smooth map for a while. My car certainly doesn't like that Base map as much hah. I'm e-mailing you my logs now, but question; at what point should I request the redline and fan temp changes I had before?

Well, if you are already running OK, you don't need to change.

I see. The base calibration is set up for what exactly? Is it -only- for finding the data logs to get the performance tune? Or is it supposed to be a safe map for the car to run that isnt the best performance? Just wondering if you'd recommend sticking with the base calibration you send us till we get the performance tune...

Well smooth, but I didn't get an updated map with leaned AFRs before the big update, so I figured I needed to start over. That's the impression that I got from the instructions; if your tune isn't completely finalized you need to start over?