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epitrochoid 03-19-2004 09:43 AM

as soon as 10 more people confirm. I have 15 now.

Hskr8 03-19-2004 10:00 AM

hey epitrochoid, I figure you are already, but hoping you are working with Canzoomer on the timing of this GB, so as to not flood those guys with orders that will take more than a few weeks to fulfill. (i.e. GB#1 going on as well as other orders)

If you're on the list, (and haven't done so) please confirm to epitrochoid.

I'm so stoked about getting a stage 1

This mod is gonna be so cool to have this summer!

smrx8 03-19-2004 10:44 AM

didnt you have over 20 people,our are people not going through with it.how many are people you going for?

Hskr8 03-19-2004 10:45 AM

he had 30, and was going for 25 (confirmed) I believe for the best discount.

meedi1 03-19-2004 10:56 AM

Thanks for the info. I am quite disappointed that the horsepower at the wheels is not more (169). That makes getting this mod that more substantial. Epitrochoid, I am definitely in. Let me know when you will be closing this out. Thanks

By the way, does anyone know what the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times would be with this mod on a stock rx8?

RXg8tor 03-20-2004 08:41 AM

I'm in for a stage 2.

DemonRX-8 03-20-2004 10:41 AM

OK, if this GB is still open count me in for a Stage I kit. I was hoping to get the "L" flash done to my car before getting it, but I don't know when/if I'll get it done.

epitrochoid 03-20-2004 01:08 PM

I got back to you guys that PMed me.

I had over 30 inquiries, but as always, people are bound to flake, and that's why I ask for the confirmation. I have 22 confirmations now. 3 MORE TO GO!!!

As far as the order goes, it really doesnt make a different how large the order is. However, I am able to place the order in queue with Maurice a week or two before it's time for me to pay him. I will place the order in queue once I have all confirmations.

Hskr8 03-20-2004 01:33 PM


Originally posted by meedi1
...By the way, does anyone know what the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times would be with this mod on a stock rx8?
There are several dyno's that have been done by canzoomer (see his section under vendors) and while I don't think there are a whole lot of posted times, I would suspect that this mod will shave a half second or more off your 1/4 mile time.

I'm thinking it will likely average in the low 14's and for a few, maybe the high 13's depending on your car, and how hard you drive/launch it.

Normally, the stock car seems to be averaging from mid to high 14's and some very low 15's, so this is just speculation based upon things I have read.

meedi1 03-20-2004 02:40 PM

Epitrochoid, I just sent you a PM with my confirmation. Count me in and let me know if yiu need anything else.

Hskr8, thanks for the info. By the way, any idea what the 0-60 times would be?

Hskr8 03-20-2004 02:56 PM


Originally posted by meedi1
Hskr8, thanks for the info. By the way, any idea what the 0-60 times would be?
Meedi1 check this thread here: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=21909

Also, Canzoomer notes that these runs were done under less than ideal situations and so he says the difference between the runs is what should be looked at, rather than the actual times.

In the 3rd graph, he gets better than a full second reduction in 0-60 time.

Improved gas mileage is also evident with the stage 1.

Hope this helps,
Hskr8

meedi1 03-20-2004 07:14 PM

One of the pages in that thread shows a hp gain of about 40 hp with the "L" flash and the stage 1 mod. Am I reading this right? I it true?

DemonRX-8 03-21-2004 03:40 PM

I believe the dyno tests for the Stage 1 that I've seen have averaged about 20-25 rwhp, which would be somwhere around 30 hp at the crank. Adding a catback exhaust should add anywhere from 10-15 more chp I believe. I think Stage II is more like 40 rwhp gain.

DemonRX-8 03-21-2004 03:42 PM

Epitrochoid, did you count me in as confirmed? If not, go ahead and add me in. I'm just trying to decide if I want to get it for the "L" flash or not.

epitrochoid 03-21-2004 04:09 PM

yeah, i got you

Hskr8 03-21-2004 05:31 PM


Originally posted by meedi1
One of the pages in that thread shows a hp gain of about 40 hp with the "L" flash and the stage 1 mod. Am I reading this right? I it true?
I've seen everything from 20 to 45 rwhp quoted.... by looking at the charts and the difference, 45 rwhp seems substantiated, although your personal mileage may vary.

Regardless of what the actual output is, it's high enough to make this the most sought after mod for the money.

You can do exhaust, which might gain you a little, but from the names that I trust, they say the stock exaust is actually pretty good, and so you might gain 5+ hp with a borla or other variant, but for the money, the stage1 is by far the best bang for the buck.

Just read what people post and I know there is allot out there, but somewhere in the middle, you should be able to draw your own conclusions.

HTH,
Hskr8

PS. I think the idea here for most, is to get the car back it's lost horsepower, and even then some. Allot of people, (including myself) have noticed better performance with the L reflash... I would say 3% gain maybe?

So even if this detracts from what the mod originally added, (read the threads)
it's sometimes hard to compare apples to oranges etc.

Bottom line in my analysis, the car gains it's hp back, and then some, and you get better mpg, and from others posts, those that tested this mod, ran neck to neck with their friends 350Z's, only noting that during low rpm pull the Z won, but higher rpm the 8 would catch up, and in the turns, the 8 easily went much faster.

God of Thunder 03-22-2004 09:47 AM

Can I still get in? If so do I have to decide on the 'L' flash right now? I'm desperately trying to get my dealer to do it.

Hskr8 03-22-2004 10:03 AM


Originally posted by God of Thunder
Can I still get in? If so do I have to decide on the 'L' flash right now? I'm desperately trying to get my dealer to do it.
Canzoomer says it will work and be safe with the older flash, but will just work better with the new one.

first post on this link: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=2

God of Thunder 03-22-2004 10:17 AM

Thanks, that's good news.

But then what was this referring to?



Originally posted by DemonRX-8
I'm just trying to decide if I want to get it for the "L" flash or not.

epitrochoid 03-22-2004 12:37 PM

The list has been updated with confirmations

http://www.ucfcarclub.com/cz1.html

Xyntax 03-22-2004 02:28 PM


Originally posted by epitrochoid
The list has been updated with confirmations

http://www.ucfcarclub.com/cz1.html


It says 0 for my name, what does that mean? I thought I sent you a confirmation that I'm in and willing to make payment as soon as it is requested.

Thanks.

nebusm 03-22-2004 04:12 PM

God of Thunder,

I spoke w/ my dealer, and he said that they'll do the reflash for people who complain about gas mileage. (Cook Imports, Farmington Hills, MI)

epitrochoid 03-22-2004 04:29 PM

wow Access sucks

i didn't notice that...i change it to group by confirmation status, so if you under the Yes box your confirmed

crazy4h20 03-22-2004 07:38 PM

Please update me to confirmed...

After our PM exchange, I'm not sure why I would not be.

epitrochoid 03-22-2004 08:01 PM

I there's an error, just let me know. I've had 123456543 PM's and Access isn't cooperating with me, so I might have missed you.


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