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GrRx8MaZdA 05-01-2005 05:39 PM

off course we will get 100% the full money back if we reach that point...
I had send 170usd at 24February..That was 132euros(i paid in euros in my account)
So i want to get back my 132euros...
Thats my lines..
But offcourse i prefer to get this part at last...

devious12 05-01-2005 08:01 PM

Hey Monzter you live near him so if you could get the name and number of your local DA that would be nice. If not I will obtain it but just thought it might be easier asking you first.

Thanks,
Brian

Morgan 05-02-2005 08:20 PM

wow ya'll....this sounds like a really horrible situation. I'm sorry for ya'll and hope everything gets worked out..guess i wont be doing any GB's for a while

monzter 05-02-2005 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by devious12
Hey Monzter you live near him so if you could get the name and number of your local DA that would be nice. If not I will obtain it but just thought it might be easier asking you first.

Thanks,
Brian

I feel for you guys that are getting ready to go legal, but I'm not at that point yet. I've met Carlos a couple of times and he does not seem like the type of guy who would just up and bail.

I'm sure he has his reasons why he hasn't shipped them yet. I just wish he would share them with the rest of us. I bought my Axis wheels from him. Paypal'd him about $1900. Didn't have a single problem. I don't think he bailed on us..IMO

I'm going to look for my old cell phone where I had his cell phone saved. If I can find it tonight, I'll give him a call tomorrow.

jgoldstein2000 05-02-2005 09:01 PM

thank you monzter

Nemesis8 05-02-2005 09:08 PM

I still have faith

moRotorMotor 05-03-2005 06:18 AM

Ok, we need another group talk. Is the consensus that we are willing to move the deadline back if Carlos gives a reason?

devious12 05-03-2005 07:43 AM

Yah if he actually shows face and says something but I don't think that will happen, not by the deadline anyways. He would need to come on this forum and give a date and have that date approved by the moderator and agree that if they aren't sent out by that date that we all get our money back and 10 dollars is deducted from the 159.99 for each one of as each day goes by without the items shipped.

OMICRON... any word?

GrRx8MaZdA 05-03-2005 10:30 AM

I want that part...If he gives us a word i can backup and wait some more...

Riccio 05-03-2005 05:40 PM

I would prefer to get the part, as well.

I think if Carlos would come back, and post a list of UPS tracking numbers, we would all be happy.

Hoping to hear from Carlos/Cortc soon..........

ranger4277 05-03-2005 08:07 PM

I just hope he isn't in a coma or worse... it is too unusual to hear nothing for this long, given that I still trust him.

yanksfan1_67 05-03-2005 10:07 PM

Yeah...I want the part too. I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out what is so hard or time consuming about throwing 12 pods in some boxes and shipping them :confused: .............unless of course he doesn't have them :mad: .

GrRx8MaZdA 05-05-2005 07:31 AM

Well 2morrow the big day....Will we get this sh8t shipped at last??Where is he??Can somebody reach him-call him etc???

I really wanted that part...But if it won't come at last,my cash back till the last $

devious12 05-05-2005 08:51 AM

If he hasn't answered now he's not gonna answer by tomorrow. Where's Omicron has he heard anything. I'll P/M him later, and I'll be contacting the DA eventually today or tomorrow.

smrx8 05-05-2005 09:22 AM

Wow guys i think something must of happen to him then again sometimes money makes you do dum things .hope everything is good

moRotorMotor 05-05-2005 10:52 AM

The only way I will excuse him from not responding is if he is comatose. If he isn't, then I want to hurt him. Devious12, if there is anything I can do, give me a shout.

TR1GGERx1 05-05-2005 02:27 PM

dang. hmmm i wonder how much money all together he has in "total" with all ur moneys combined he's holding? big pocket change from wut i think

Nemesis8 05-05-2005 11:24 PM

Maybe he backed over them and they all cracked.... :eek:

Mindtrip 05-05-2005 11:28 PM

Hopefully he didnt use all that money to pay for those HRE's!

jgoldstein2000 05-06-2005 01:06 AM

i am in support of whatever the group decides... i wanted the part... now i just want to understand what happeed

Ryan28A 05-06-2005 02:28 AM

Haven't been on in a few days, had to work a 72 hour shift... I'd rather get the part, but he's not going to look at this thread. Hopefully if a DA contacts him, the parts will magically appear on our door steps. This is what I'm hopeing for.

devious12 05-06-2005 07:31 AM

Maybe the dashpod trolls came and stole them cause they didn't want our 8's looking any better than they already do!

I'm trying to contact the Miami DA today if anyone has any info on the contact information for the Miami District Attorney please post it here we need all the help we can get.

I will post as soon as I contact the DA hopefully they can get our money back or the part shipped that is what a total of 1759.89 and that's counting 11 people, I didn't include the other cause I'm figuring that was Cortcs pod right?

GrRx8MaZdA 05-06-2005 07:46 AM

Keep us updated man..Thanks...If i had to decide between money or pod,offcourse the 2cond..I hope we can get it shipped through them...

P.S.thanks for the gt bro^...i appreciate all your help

ranger4277 05-06-2005 08:19 AM

Thanks alot for your effort devious.

I'm seeking resolution. At this point recepit of either the pod or a refund will be acceptable for me.

moRotorMotor 05-06-2005 08:56 AM

A big thanks to Devious12, again, let me know if there is anything we can do to help.

Ryan28A 05-06-2005 12:11 PM

Devious12 for president! ;)

smrx8 05-06-2005 12:49 PM

How about someone finding out were he lives and going there.didnt he have some deaths in the family ?? that alone can bring someone down

devious12 05-06-2005 05:08 PM

OK I have contacted the City of Coral Gables Florida Attorney, Elizabeth Hernandez. They were not in the office at the time I called although I left a message briefly describing our situation with my cell phone and home number. Please note that I have explained that we are not assuming that Carols ran with our money, we just haven't heard from him and it was over 1700.00 dollars that he has in his possession. Remember, we cannot falsely accuse him of stealing... yet. Also remember that we have all of this recorded in this forum, so the proof is there, if he was indeed stealing, (I happen to be 60/40 with the thought that he did)
I will most likely hear from her on Monday, if not I will call again.

I do need everyone's help if you have five to 10 minutes to spare. Please use the number listed below or email and make a complaint to the City Attorney and I will make a call to the Southern District Court on Monday and find out what else we can do to get our money or our product.

Thanks



This number is listed for all of the public
http://www.coralgables.com/CGWeb/cityattorney.htm
Contact Information
Elizabeth Hernandez
405 Biltmore Way, City Attorney’s Office,
Coral Gables, FL 33134
(305)460-5218
Email the City Attorney ehernandez@coralgables.com

TR1GGERx1 05-07-2005 11:50 PM

dang gettin pretty serious nowww

mikeb 05-08-2005 04:00 AM

yeah it is real sad to see this

RotorManiac 05-08-2005 07:11 AM

oh boy, I feel bad too...
hell, 17 hundred is not a great amount, to run away with...and make such a commosion...
if he got about 5grand it'd make more sense...
I hope you guys get your money back...

GrRx8MaZdA 05-08-2005 07:37 AM

Or even the parts bro!!
The money are not too much...170or something each...And we have been waiting so long..The money would not make me happy...The part offcourse or 300usd or something!! :D ;)

devious12 05-09-2005 04:06 PM

Ok update, nothing much to talk about just figured I'd let you guys know what has been done so far.

I left a message on Carlos home phone informing him that I am calling the Police.
I called the Coral Gables Police dept. and they couldn't really help me, so I spoke with the Florida State Attorney and they were closing when I called so they asked me to give them a ring tomorrow.

I will post again tomorrow after I speak with these people and see how we can go about this.

This may take a while to sort out but it will be resolve I promise you that, I won't stop until I have my money along with your too or the item.

If I cannot get anywhere with the State Officials or local Police, then I will attempt to fly down there myself.

jgoldstein2000 05-09-2005 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by devious12
Ok update, nothing much to talk about just figured I'd let you guys know what has been done so far.

I left a message on Carlos home phone informing him that I am calling the Police.
I called the Coral Gables Police dept. and they couldn't really help me, so I spoke with the Florida State Attorney and they were closing when I called so they asked me to give them a ring tomorrow.

I will post again tomorrow after I speak with these people and see how we can go about this.

This may take a while to sort out but it will be resolve I promise you that, I won't stop until I have my money along with your too or the item.

If I cannot get anywhere with the State Officials or local Police, then I will attempt to fly down there myself.

thankyou... more than anything i just want to understand what the guy is doing?

Nemesis8 05-09-2005 10:43 PM

We all need closure on this issue. This has gone on far too long for even me now... I was holding out as long as I could.

Mindtrip 05-09-2005 10:49 PM

I wish you all luck

I hope you all get ur money + some!

devious12 05-10-2005 04:56 PM

Update:
Got a call from the Coral Gables Police Department today. The advised me to make my complaint to the FBI Internet Fraud Crime Center (www.ifccfbi.gov). After the complaint is made then the FBI does a small investigation into the issue. They will contact the Coral Gables Police and they will go to the premises of the seller, (Carlos), to see if it is fraudulent case.

This process does not take long at all, that is what the Police stated today on the phone, so expect this to be resolved if not at least some answers very soon.

mikeb 05-10-2005 05:08 PM

damn
you are the man^^^

Ryan28A 05-10-2005 05:28 PM

Awesome job man. I've emailed the city lawyer with my info

Mindtrip 05-10-2005 06:08 PM

Those FBI guys do take long. I have had to deal with them before

Sendo 05-10-2005 07:53 PM

I declined to comment before because Carlos I figured people run into problems, which he did. However his lack of response is troubling, as well is the fact that he promised our product in December of '04. The idea that he stole our money is not my theory but enough is enough.

devious12 05-12-2005 09:05 PM

I made my complaint yesterday to the FBI at www.ifccfbi.gov . It was about 5 pages that I had to fill out and everyones money and nickname on this forum who were involved in this group buy are included in the complaint. We will just need to play the waiting game. So until there is an update from my end or until we hear from Cortc depends on how long we need to wait.

Riccio 05-13-2005 12:28 AM

Thanks, Devious, for doing the leg work on this - it's really a strange thing............. :confused:

jgoldstein2000 05-13-2005 11:54 AM

i really wish someone lived near him and could go to his house and confront him... i just want an answer

monzter 05-14-2005 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by jgoldstein2000
i really wish someone lived near him and could go to his house and confront him... i just want an answer


Get me his address and i'll see what I can find out. If its close by I won't mind taking a drive by there and see what I can dig up.

Rob

devious12 05-14-2005 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by monzter
Get me his address and i'll see what I can find out. If its close by I won't mind taking a drive by there and see what I can dig up.

Rob


Hey,
Thanks for the compliments guys, and here is the info that I found. I not completely sure if this is definately him but it seems that way and when I called his home his kid answered and I asked for Carlos and the kid responded with "he's not home" so obviously he lives there. Let us know what happens, thanks for doing this Monzter:

Carlos (Henry Cortinas)
1109 Hardee Rd
Coral Gables FL 33146
305.667.1439

Morgan 05-15-2005 03:44 PM

if stuff doesn't get resolved by mid- july, i should be in coral gables for a weekend to visit a friend..i will def. stop by and see what i can find out..i'm just a little innocent girl :D

it seems odd that he is never home whenever anyone calls...hmmm...maybe he's avoiding ya'll?

good job taking control though...I hope everything works out!!

jgoldstein2000 05-15-2005 04:13 PM

thanks morgan

moRotorMotor 05-15-2005 05:07 PM

I think Carlos is in financial trouble, otherwise, why would his kids be the only ones to answer the phone and then say he's not here? Trying to avoid creditors?

Mindtrip 05-16-2005 03:26 AM

Thats funny!


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