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GrRx8MaZdA 05-25-2005 08:27 AM

Hey can you give us a list of which member's pods have you ship out yet??
I want mine for sure and you know it Carlos...I want the pod and please ship it asap cause i am waiting for a new package form us and i can have it packed in there....

cortc 05-25-2005 08:35 AM

Yours will go out with the ones today, I am printing a list as I type this...




Originally Posted by GrRx8MaZdA
Hey can you give us a list of which member's pods have you ship out yet??
I want mine for sure and you know it Carlos...I want the pod and please ship it asap cause i am waiting for a new package form us and i can have it packed in there....


GrRx8MaZdA 05-25-2005 08:38 AM

Ok keep us informed...Thanks

cortc 05-25-2005 08:51 AM

Ok, they are in my car and I am off to the US Post Office... Later today I will log onto PayPal and issue a few credits to the ones who have no faith; you can keep your money...

ranger4277 05-25-2005 08:53 AM

Thank you Carlos. I look forward to receiving my pod.

cortc 05-25-2005 08:56 AM

I have started reading through the post, as I have not been to this thread since I last posted... I will be responding to each and every post...

I also called the Coral Gables police and spoke to them about the complaint and all is good... In the meantime the address posted here is not me, I called the individual and spoke to him; he request that his address and number be removed...

Update soon...

devious12 05-25-2005 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by cortc
Ok, 6 ship today and then the rest; was up late last night packing them... A few credits will be issued as well (I would rather loose more money than deal with this BS), I will be reviewing the posts and deciding who will get a POD and who will get thier money back...

This group buy is closed and no other parts I custom make will be available in the future...

For those with faith and patience, enjoy...:)


Hey Cortc I guess I don't get a pod because I was the one to start taking some action mean while you could have posted what was going on and you didn't for 2 months???? Now your posting that we should have had more patience are you serious??? I need a list of who is getting the pods and who isn't because if I am not then I will be persuing further action due to the fact that now your telling us who is and who isn't to get the pods. If anything everyone should get the pods just due to the fact that you made us wait this long without a reponse, how can you justify your actions at all and then scholled us for getting angry and doing what anyone in our position would have done come on now where's the logic in all of that????

If you are refusing to send pods out to certain memebers including myself then I beleive the moderators should take some action and ban you from this site you have had numerous amounts of miscommunication with us and it is totally unfair. If you were to send out all of the pods then I would have to say that you redeemed yourself of your faulty communications and misrepresentation.

If you have any problems you can call me and I'd like to have your number to further dicuss this. And once we all have tracking numbers I will call my dogs off of you, because they are in further investigation of your whereabouts, you left us with not choice by not communicating, can you blame us?... you wouldn't do the same thing?

LittleJohn 05-25-2005 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by devious12
Hey Cortc I guess I don't get a pod because I was the one to start taking some action mean while you could have posted what was going on and you didn't for 2 months???? Now your posting that we should have had more patience are you serious??? I need a list of who is getting the pods and who isn't because if I am not then I will be persuing further action due to the fact that now your telling us who is and who isn't to get the pods. If anything everyone should get the pods just due to the fact that you made us wait this long without a reponse, how can you justify your actions at all and then scholled us for getting angry and doing what anyone in our position would have done come on now where's the logic in all of that????

If you are refusing to send pods out to certain memebers including myself then I beleive the moderators should take some action and ban you from this site you have had numerous amounts of miscommunication with us and it is totally unfair. If you were to send out all of the pods then I would have to say that you redeemed yourself of your faulty communications and misrepresentation.

If you have any problems you can call me and I'd like to have your number to further dicuss this. And once we all have tracking numbers I will call my dogs off of you, because they are in further investigation of your whereabouts, you left us with not choice by not communicating, can you blame us?... you wouldn't do the same thing?

I took thre refunds as people who put their names on the list for a refund.... i.e. those that asked to be refunded.

I really hope everything comes good on this one... From his previous posts in other forums, cortc sounds fair dinkum

devious12 05-25-2005 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by cortc
Ok, they are in my car and I am off to the US Post Office... Later today I will log onto PayPal and issue a few credits to the ones who have no faith; you can keep your money...

You know Cortc your unbelivable how can you justify your miscommunication and wouldn't you have done the same if you had no response for 2 months????

Come on now if anything we should all get this item. I did have faith in you until you stopped responding how can you make it like its our fault.

I have contacted the founder of this site to see if something can be done this is extremeley unfair.

And you would think the rest of you would stick up for the ones who were fighting for your dash pod cover!

devious12 05-25-2005 09:17 AM

Well I didn't put my name on a refund list I'd rather have the item but as it sounds anyone who didn't trust him after no response of 2 months will not be shipped a cover!

I was going to buy the hood from you too how can you do this!

devious12 05-25-2005 09:26 AM

CORTC
Are you shipping me a cover and the rest of the members as well? You can't deny that you didn't give us an update for 2 months I know your online right now so please let us know. I would also like to call the IfccFBI and call them off of you and I did let them know that we weren't accussing you but wanted to know that you didn't pass away or something before we assummed that you ran with the money. So yes I did make a complaint but did let them know as well as the Coral Gables Police that you may have had personally issues but wanted them to check first before we concluded anything. What else should we have done? what would your suggestion have been?

moRotorMotor 05-25-2005 10:10 AM

I'm standing behind devious12 all the way. If he doesn't get one, I don't want one, nor should anyone else in the group buy accept it. He stood at the front of the pack and took action when all of us wanted answers and a resolution from this mess. It's either we all get the pods or we all get our money back. No ifs, ands, or buts!

Carlos, how could you justify your actions because we wanted a conclusion from the horribly long waiting? You come out of the blue (several months of silence), tell us who is getting the pods and who are not because you feel some of us have crossed the line...Think about that for a minute. I know these are one offs. I know you are a busy man settling multi-million dollar business deals, but have you thought about taking 5 minutes out of 24 hours to post an update? You still didn't give us a reason why you kept saying why you would send the pods out to us when it haven't even left your house? You dodge all the questions and come out of the blue and tell us who you think will deserve these pods. Think rationally/logically here for once.

cortc 05-25-2005 11:09 AM

Fraud and the like is serious and I do not take lightly to it, if I am guilty of anything it is in trying to do a favor... I have lost money on this little project just to see it through and comments like the one here continue; I will send refunds today to those who feel wronged as it is the fastest way to appease and once I am done shipping and refunding the forum wants to ban me then so be it...

I have contributed a great deal to this forum with time and money and in the end it is just not worth the hassle... Every time I have sold anything through the sales forum I have delivered very quickly as they where always standard items that required no special handling. These PODS are custom and I have had to prep them once received by polishing cleaning painting the back sides etc...

I have not used any insults nor questioned anyone's integrity; if you did not want to wait you should have asked for a refund through PayPal, I have not been here for a while because I have been very busy with my work and life since I changed positions back in December...

The dogs you refer to are people and they are not yours to call off, they are professional individuals trying to do there job and find the truth. I have spoken to them as a courtesy to them not you and to let them know that this is not a fraud case...

This is a U$150.00 dollar car part that was custom made and paid for by me before I ever received them, including molds, the parts for making the molds and all of the shipping back and forth... The group buy never reached the point that would make these meet the target price and in good faith I paid the difference that as of my count last night is over $750.00...

Sorry for the wait, it was not my intention to upset anyone it was to spread the good stuff for our cars...

Beyond this I will not make any excuses or ask for any pardon, it is what it is; and for anyone who receives a refund it is my only option at this point...
And to respond to the last comment, no I would not have...


Originally Posted by devious12
Hey Cortc I guess I don't get a pod because I was the one to start taking some action mean while you could have posted what was going on and you didn't for 2 months???? Now your posting that we should have had more patience are you serious??? I need a list of who is getting the pods and who isn't because if I am not then I will be persuing further action due to the fact that now your telling us who is and who isn't to get the pods. If anything everyone should get the pods just due to the fact that you made us wait this long without a reponse, how can you justify your actions at all and then scholled us for getting angry and doing what anyone in our position would have done come on now where's the logic in all of that????

If you are refusing to send pods out to certain memebers including myself then I beleive the moderators should take some action and ban you from this site you have had numerous amounts of miscommunication with us and it is totally unfair. If you were to send out all of the pods then I would have to say that you redeemed yourself of your faulty communications and misrepresentation.

If you have any problems you can call me and I'd like to have your number to further dicuss this. And once we all have tracking numbers I will call my dogs off of you, because they are in further investigation of your whereabouts, you left us with not choice by not communicating, can you blame us?... you wouldn't do the same thing?


cortc 05-25-2005 11:32 AM

These were paid in advance by me...




Originally Posted by devious12
It's funny that the saying "money talks" is so true. See how responsive he was when trying to collect the money and how the responsiveness slowed down after he had the money.

Now I know from running a business, that if he was still waiting on our funds in order to ship the pods, that he sure as hell would be posting up here and P/Ming all of us for the money.

money motivates.

From now on all group buys should be held in escrow by a third party.


cortc 05-25-2005 11:52 AM

Guys, this is the last group buy I will do; that hood would require me to put up U$4,500.00 dollars and than sit back and deal with all this again...

No way...



Originally Posted by devious12
Well I didn't put my name on a refund list I'd rather have the item but as it sounds anyone who didn't trust him after no response of 2 months will not be shipped a cover!

I was going to buy the hood from you too how can you do this!


cortc 05-25-2005 11:58 AM

Ok, read through all the post and am sorry for the delay; I was caught up with a million things; I have not even driven the RX8 in all this time...

Going to the post office now to ship six(6) it's all I could get boxed up and in the trunk...

If your on the list below asking for refunds let me know and it will be issued immediatly:

1) devious12
2) moRotorMotor
3) riccio
4) yanksfan1_67

Thanks...

cortc 05-25-2005 12:00 PM

Ok, as a courtesy to this innocent person please remove their address and name...



[QUOTE=devious12]Hey,
Thanks for the compliments guys, and here is the info that I found. I not completely sure if this is definately him but it seems that way and when I called his home his kid answered and I asked for Carlos and the kid responded with "he's not home" so obviously he lives there. Let us know what happens, thanks for doing this Monzter:

edit...

Nemesis8 05-25-2005 12:04 PM

I knew you were still alive - I just knew it :)

cortc 05-25-2005 12:07 PM

Yes, after reading all of this I wonder...;)




Originally Posted by Nemesis8
I knew you were still alive - I just knew it :)


cortc 05-25-2005 12:16 PM

1) devious12 (Paid PayPal 11.10.2004) (Pending)
2) nemesis8 (Paid PayPal 11.3.2004) (Ship Today)
3) adrian-1 (Paid PayPal 11.4.2004) (Ship Thursday)
4) rot8ryx Paid PayPal 11.15.2004) (Ship Today)
5) ranger4277 (Paid PayPal 11.7.2004) (Ship Thursday)
6) Sendo (Paid PayPal 11.11.2004) (Ship Today)
7) jgoldstein2000 (Paid PayPal 11.15.2004) (Ship Today)
8) Riccio (Paid PayPal 11.11.2004) (Pending)
9) moRotorMotor (Paid PayPal 12.4.2004) (Pending)
10) Ryan28A (Paid PayPal 1.6.2005) (Ship Today)
11) yanksfan_67 (Paid PayPal 2.25.2005) (Pending)
12) GrRx8MaZdan (Paid PayPal 2.25.2005) (Ship Today)
13) monzter (Paid PayPal) (Pickup Today)

truemagellen 05-25-2005 12:38 PM

please give the guys a full explanation...I think they deserve it!

well really they all deserve a MAJOR discount...the situation was ridiculous!

truemagellen 05-25-2005 12:44 PM

I've been banned before for MUCH less than this

ranger4277 05-25-2005 12:46 PM

Sent you a PM carlos.

cortc 05-25-2005 01:02 PM

What discount? This is a U$750.00 loss as it is...

All explanations have been given...



Originally Posted by truemagellen
please give the guys a full explanation...I think they deserve it!

well really they all deserve a MAJOR discount...the situation was ridiculous!


cortc 05-25-2005 01:04 PM

Once I get everyones PODS and refunds out and the forces that be want to ban me than that is OK...

If my contributions so far are not in the best interest of all than I should be...



Originally Posted by truemagellen
I've been banned before for MUCH less than this



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