Outinnowhere3193 - TBD, but not good
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Outinnowhere3193 - TBD, but not good
Was paid in full for:
Mazsport Type III manifold - $100
Mazsport Motor Mounts - $100
Rebuilt Tial 44mm WG - $125
BOV and K&N Filter - $40
Plus $35 for shipping and paypal fees
Seller issued me a paypal invoice and I promptly paid within the hour in full.
Weeks went by with package not arriving. When it finally arrived inside was only the Manifold and WG. I contacted the Seller and commented that the first box had arrived and that those parts were in as advertised condition. I also commented that since it was advertised as the Type III manifold that the upper extension to make it a top mount was not in that box. At that time I commented that the second box with the rest of the parts must not be far behind. Seller did not state and seemed confused as to whether there was one box or not. Also never commented that it was not in fact a Type III manifold, but rather the Type I.
So I was patient, for a few more days, then contacted Seller to tell him we needed to settle for the parts that had not arrived. At this time, Seller tells me there was in fact only one box. I went home that night, took several pictures of the box to show him the condition it was in when it arrived and that it was heavily wrapped in plastic, etc...to help him file a claim with USPS. Turns out he didn't get insurance on it.
We came to an agreement that if he refunded me $150 we'd call it even for the missing parts. Originally, I'd asked for $200, but had forgotten to add in shipping costs - which he claimed to be $30, but per the USPS tag was really $17. I also asked for $25 off the manifold because it was not what was advertised.
But I agreed to $150 because I figured getting something back is better than getting nothing. I then asked him to settle with me quickly so we could close the issue.
This has all been going on since I paid him in full on Feb 21st. On March 23rd I agreed to $150. I did not promptly receive the refund so I contacted him asking when I would get it. I pay promptly and I expect the same.
Seller tells me it will be a "couple weeks". Not acceptable.
Seller then states: "Besides not to make it sound like I don't believe you...but ya know it is kinda hard to believe you didn't get everything...when it was all send in one box. Just kinda odd you got part of them and not them all. Kinda weird odd if you ask me."
After I've been patient for a month he has the nerve to write that to me. I can have numerous reputable members of this community like Alnielsen, RedSheDevil, MDW1000 etc...vouch that I'm neither a cheat or a liar. And that I in fact did not receive those parts. Needless to say, this has really pissed me off that such a thinly veiled accusation would be leveled.
Bottom line, Outinnowhere3193 - I paid immediately. Unfortunately USPS screwed up, and you screwed up by not getting insurance. None of which, or any of your other excuses to why you haven't paid me are my problem. Your affairs separate to our transaction have nothing to do with me. And if you have time and cash to buy parts for your V8 swap thread - https://www.rx8club.com/non-rotary-swaps-196/383-stroker-rx8-hoping-500-hp-tq-buld-192167/ - you can pay me.
Honestly, right now I'm so infuriated about calling my integrity into question that I have notions regarding contacting a friend that is a police chief in Indiana to assist me in settling this issue.
Refund me quickly, and I'll forget about all of this, and edit this post stating that you are in fact a good guy and made things right.
Mazsport Type III manifold - $100
Mazsport Motor Mounts - $100
Rebuilt Tial 44mm WG - $125
BOV and K&N Filter - $40
Plus $35 for shipping and paypal fees
Seller issued me a paypal invoice and I promptly paid within the hour in full.
Weeks went by with package not arriving. When it finally arrived inside was only the Manifold and WG. I contacted the Seller and commented that the first box had arrived and that those parts were in as advertised condition. I also commented that since it was advertised as the Type III manifold that the upper extension to make it a top mount was not in that box. At that time I commented that the second box with the rest of the parts must not be far behind. Seller did not state and seemed confused as to whether there was one box or not. Also never commented that it was not in fact a Type III manifold, but rather the Type I.
So I was patient, for a few more days, then contacted Seller to tell him we needed to settle for the parts that had not arrived. At this time, Seller tells me there was in fact only one box. I went home that night, took several pictures of the box to show him the condition it was in when it arrived and that it was heavily wrapped in plastic, etc...to help him file a claim with USPS. Turns out he didn't get insurance on it.
We came to an agreement that if he refunded me $150 we'd call it even for the missing parts. Originally, I'd asked for $200, but had forgotten to add in shipping costs - which he claimed to be $30, but per the USPS tag was really $17. I also asked for $25 off the manifold because it was not what was advertised.
But I agreed to $150 because I figured getting something back is better than getting nothing. I then asked him to settle with me quickly so we could close the issue.
This has all been going on since I paid him in full on Feb 21st. On March 23rd I agreed to $150. I did not promptly receive the refund so I contacted him asking when I would get it. I pay promptly and I expect the same.
Seller tells me it will be a "couple weeks". Not acceptable.
Seller then states: "Besides not to make it sound like I don't believe you...but ya know it is kinda hard to believe you didn't get everything...when it was all send in one box. Just kinda odd you got part of them and not them all. Kinda weird odd if you ask me."
After I've been patient for a month he has the nerve to write that to me. I can have numerous reputable members of this community like Alnielsen, RedSheDevil, MDW1000 etc...vouch that I'm neither a cheat or a liar. And that I in fact did not receive those parts. Needless to say, this has really pissed me off that such a thinly veiled accusation would be leveled.
Bottom line, Outinnowhere3193 - I paid immediately. Unfortunately USPS screwed up, and you screwed up by not getting insurance. None of which, or any of your other excuses to why you haven't paid me are my problem. Your affairs separate to our transaction have nothing to do with me. And if you have time and cash to buy parts for your V8 swap thread - https://www.rx8club.com/non-rotary-swaps-196/383-stroker-rx8-hoping-500-hp-tq-buld-192167/ - you can pay me.
Honestly, right now I'm so infuriated about calling my integrity into question that I have notions regarding contacting a friend that is a police chief in Indiana to assist me in settling this issue.
Refund me quickly, and I'll forget about all of this, and edit this post stating that you are in fact a good guy and made things right.
Last edited by Red Devil; Mar 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM.
Was paid in full for:
Mazsport Type III manifold - $100
Mazsport Motor Mounts - $100
Rebuilt Tial 44mm WG - $125
BOV and K&N Filter - $40
Plus $35 for shipping and paypal fees
Seller issued me a paypal invoice and I promptly paid within the hour in full.
Weeks went by with package not arriving. When it finally arrived inside was only the Manifold and WG. I contacted the Seller and commented that the first box had arrived and that those parts were in as advertised condition. I also commented that since it was advertised as the Type III manifold that the upper extension to make it a top mount was not in that box. At that time I commented that the second box with the rest of the parts must not be far behind. Seller did not state and seemed confused as to whether there was one box or not. Also never commented that it was not in fact a Type III manifold, but rather the Type I.
So I was patient, for a few more days, then contacted Seller to tell him we needed to settle for the parts that had not arrived. At this time, Seller tells me there was in fact only one box. I went home that night, took several pictures of the box to show him the condition it was in when it arrived and that it was heavily wrapped in plastic, etc...to help him file a claim with USPS. Turns out he didn't get insurance on it.
We came to an agreement that if he refunded me $150 we'd call it even for the missing parts. Originally, I'd asked for $200, but had forgotten to add in shipping costs - which he claimed to be $30, but per the USPS tag was really $17. I also asked for $25 off the manifold because it was not what was advertised.
But I agreed to $150 because I figured getting something back is better than getting nothing. I then asked him to settle with me quickly so we could close the issue.
This has all been going on since I paid him in full on Feb 21st. On March 23rd I agreed to $150. I did not promptly receive the refund so I contacted him asking when I would get it. I pay promptly and I expect the same.
Seller tells me it will be a "couple weeks". Not acceptable.
Seller then states: "Besides not to make it sound like I don't believe you...but ya know it is kinda hard to believe you didn't get everything...when it was all send in one box. Just kinda odd you got part of them and not them all. Kinda weird odd if you ask me."
After I've been patient for a month he has the nerve to write that to me. I can have numerous reputable members of this community like Alnielsen, RedSheDevil, MDW1000 etc...vouch that I'm neither a cheat or a liar. And that I in fact did not receive those parts. Needless to say, this has really pissed me off that such a thinly veiled accusation would be leveled.
Bottom line, Outinnowhere3193 - I paid immediately. Unfortunately USPS screwed up, and you screwed up by not getting insurance. None of which, or any of your other excuses to why you haven't paid me are my problem. Your affairs separate to our transaction have nothing to do with me. And if you have time and cash to buy parts for your V8 swap thread - https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=192167 - you can pay me.
Honestly, right now I'm so infuriated about calling my integrity into question that I have notions regarding contacting a friend that is a police chief in Indiana to assist me in settling this issue.
Refund me quickly, and I'll forget about all of this, and edit this post stating that you are in fact a good guy and made things right.
Mazsport Type III manifold - $100
Mazsport Motor Mounts - $100
Rebuilt Tial 44mm WG - $125
BOV and K&N Filter - $40
Plus $35 for shipping and paypal fees
Seller issued me a paypal invoice and I promptly paid within the hour in full.
Weeks went by with package not arriving. When it finally arrived inside was only the Manifold and WG. I contacted the Seller and commented that the first box had arrived and that those parts were in as advertised condition. I also commented that since it was advertised as the Type III manifold that the upper extension to make it a top mount was not in that box. At that time I commented that the second box with the rest of the parts must not be far behind. Seller did not state and seemed confused as to whether there was one box or not. Also never commented that it was not in fact a Type III manifold, but rather the Type I.
So I was patient, for a few more days, then contacted Seller to tell him we needed to settle for the parts that had not arrived. At this time, Seller tells me there was in fact only one box. I went home that night, took several pictures of the box to show him the condition it was in when it arrived and that it was heavily wrapped in plastic, etc...to help him file a claim with USPS. Turns out he didn't get insurance on it.
We came to an agreement that if he refunded me $150 we'd call it even for the missing parts. Originally, I'd asked for $200, but had forgotten to add in shipping costs - which he claimed to be $30, but per the USPS tag was really $17. I also asked for $25 off the manifold because it was not what was advertised.
But I agreed to $150 because I figured getting something back is better than getting nothing. I then asked him to settle with me quickly so we could close the issue.
This has all been going on since I paid him in full on Feb 21st. On March 23rd I agreed to $150. I did not promptly receive the refund so I contacted him asking when I would get it. I pay promptly and I expect the same.
Seller tells me it will be a "couple weeks". Not acceptable.
Seller then states: "Besides not to make it sound like I don't believe you...but ya know it is kinda hard to believe you didn't get everything...when it was all send in one box. Just kinda odd you got part of them and not them all. Kinda weird odd if you ask me."
After I've been patient for a month he has the nerve to write that to me. I can have numerous reputable members of this community like Alnielsen, RedSheDevil, MDW1000 etc...vouch that I'm neither a cheat or a liar. And that I in fact did not receive those parts. Needless to say, this has really pissed me off that such a thinly veiled accusation would be leveled.
Bottom line, Outinnowhere3193 - I paid immediately. Unfortunately USPS screwed up, and you screwed up by not getting insurance. None of which, or any of your other excuses to why you haven't paid me are my problem. Your affairs separate to our transaction have nothing to do with me. And if you have time and cash to buy parts for your V8 swap thread - https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=192167 - you can pay me.
Honestly, right now I'm so infuriated about calling my integrity into question that I have notions regarding contacting a friend that is a police chief in Indiana to assist me in settling this issue.
Refund me quickly, and I'll forget about all of this, and edit this post stating that you are in fact a good guy and made things right.
Like I told you from day one when you asked for the refund. I said ok. But as I stated from day one that I didn't have the funds for I had already spent the money and I had bills due. Yes I'm doing my v8 swap....which I've spent every dime I had on building this...I've sold everything from my motor, transmissions, turbo parts to the interceptor.
But once again like I've said several times I'll issue you a refund as soon as I have the money. It's first of the month!!!...I have a house payment, a car payment, and a cell phone due all on the 1st of the month. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.
But I sent you the parts....and I'm willing to give you your money back...considering since you say my parts didn't make it there.... I lost out on my parts plus giving you your money back. I don't only lose on giving your money back...but I lose again cause I don't get my parts back.
I'm sure if you look at the labels on the box you'll see a sticker that says weight. So if you think I didn't send them you'll see the weight of the box when usps shipped it out.
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I believe you did send them. I just think USPS screwed up. Telling me a "couple weeks" when I only have 45 days to file a Paypal claim puts me in a position where I may be forced to file a claim. I'd rather not do that. But unfortunately, what I'll have to leave it at is that 45 days expires like the first week of April. So if I don't have it by like the 3rd, I'll have to file the dispute.
And like I stated, if you settle with me than I'll amend the first post that things went wrong but you eventually made it right.
And like I stated, if you settle with me than I'll amend the first post that things went wrong but you eventually made it right.
The shipper should file a UPS claim especially if you have the original shipping tag and all of the items were in a box there was a weight if the weight doesnt match what the receiver got. IN my industry they ask you to keep the box and they come and inspect it. It happens often UPS damages the box things fall out they re tape the box and go about like nothing happened thats where having known weights and packing slips helps in your case the original shipping tag and invoice might help as well as the box if it looks like it was possibly altered. On the other hand UPS takes there time paying regular people shipment claims if you were a business it would be a diff story. Maybe my info will help maybe not figured i would give you some input my company ships about 1,000 packages a day thats our process.
I'll snap his neck.
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Like I told you from day one when you asked for the refund. I said ok. But as I stated from day one that I didn't have the funds for I had already spent the money and I had bills due. Yes I'm doing my v8 swap....which I've spent every dime I had on building this...I've sold everything from my motor, transmissions, turbo parts to the interceptor.
But once again like I've said several times I'll issue you a refund as soon as I have the money. It's first of the month!!!...I have a house payment, a car payment, and a cell phone due all on the 1st of the month. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.
But I sent you the parts....and I'm willing to give you your money back...considering since you say my parts didn't make it there.... I lost out on my parts plus giving you your money back. I don't only lose on giving your money back...but I lose again cause I don't get my parts back.
I'm sure if you look at the labels on the box you'll see a sticker that says weight. So if you think I didn't send them you'll see the weight of the box when usps shipped it out.
But once again like I've said several times I'll issue you a refund as soon as I have the money. It's first of the month!!!...I have a house payment, a car payment, and a cell phone due all on the 1st of the month. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.
But I sent you the parts....and I'm willing to give you your money back...considering since you say my parts didn't make it there.... I lost out on my parts plus giving you your money back. I don't only lose on giving your money back...but I lose again cause I don't get my parts back.
I'm sure if you look at the labels on the box you'll see a sticker that says weight. So if you think I didn't send them you'll see the weight of the box when usps shipped it out.
Just a bit of friendly advice. Having been part of a custom build myself, if money is that tight for you that you can't issue this relatively small refund for a couple weeks... you shouldn't be doing a custom build. Generally they will end up costing significantly more than you think they will, no matter how well you've planned them. Little things will come up, etc, etc, that will add up.
It is also not RedDevil's fault that you didn't insure the package. You also sort of insult him again in this post by saying "you say my parts didn't make it there." Trust me, he is not the sort of guy that is going to try to screw you. In fact, he's going out of his way to help you out. A lot of people would have filed the paypal dispute already.
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Filed a dispute through paypal on the 3rd and requested $150 refund. No response of any sort from Seller.
Escalated to claim today again requesting $150 refund.
Escalated to claim today again requesting $150 refund.
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Well, I have personally known Red Devil for about 4 yrs now. He is a person of good character and I can't see him trying to pull anything on anyone.
I also bought a fuel pump from outinnowhere3193. It arrived promptly and things went smooth. It was promptly upgraded with the BHR/Walbro pump upgrade and installed in my tank. The pump unit was never tested but the fuel sock was clean and I expect that when I put it in my failing pump assembly, it will run fine as a backup pump.
He did not, however give me a trader rating over the transaction.
I also bought a fuel pump from outinnowhere3193. It arrived promptly and things went smooth. It was promptly upgraded with the BHR/Walbro pump upgrade and installed in my tank. The pump unit was never tested but the fuel sock was clean and I expect that when I put it in my failing pump assembly, it will run fine as a backup pump.
He did not, however give me a trader rating over the transaction.
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^^^
Appreciate the comments. BTW, let me know if interested in coming by at some point during the build process. Not really looking for any help, just more if you want to come by and hang out. Most likely it will be two stage, engine build/porting...then after break in turbo setup.
Appreciate the comments. BTW, let me know if interested in coming by at some point during the build process. Not really looking for any help, just more if you want to come by and hang out. Most likely it will be two stage, engine build/porting...then after break in turbo setup.
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On Monday Paypal denied my claim. I wasn't surprised by this as they told me over the phone that since there was a delivery confirmation from USPS they couldn't go any further. They strongly urged me to go through my credit card company to reclaim the $150.
So I filed a claim through my credit card company and have received the temporary credit back into my account while they work out the details with Paypal.
Originally the Seller had told me "a few weeks" before payment...I guess we all have different ideas of a few weeks but clearly the guy never intended to issue the refund that he had agreed to with me in PMs on this forum.
I know others liike Al have posted have a decent experience with the guy. But frankly, imo, the mark of a good seller is in both good and bad times. And more importantly to hold to his word - that he has not done.
I would steer clear of making any cash transactions with him.
And now I'm off to post this link in his V8 build thread. Since he has felt free to call my integrity into question, but then not even show any himself by not keeping his word and issuing the refund I will feel free now to post in his thread as I see fit.
So I filed a claim through my credit card company and have received the temporary credit back into my account while they work out the details with Paypal.
Originally the Seller had told me "a few weeks" before payment...I guess we all have different ideas of a few weeks but clearly the guy never intended to issue the refund that he had agreed to with me in PMs on this forum.
I know others liike Al have posted have a decent experience with the guy. But frankly, imo, the mark of a good seller is in both good and bad times. And more importantly to hold to his word - that he has not done.
I would steer clear of making any cash transactions with him.
And now I'm off to post this link in his V8 build thread. Since he has felt free to call my integrity into question, but then not even show any himself by not keeping his word and issuing the refund I will feel free now to post in his thread as I see fit.
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Did you pay for insurance on the shipping? Did you request that he send the package with insurance? If not it is pretty clear that USPS is to blame here, not you or him. Yes he could have and probably should have paid extra for the shipping insurance, but did you do your part and ask for the shipping insurance or pay for the extra shipping insurance? Things like this happen, sorry, but the blame needs to go on USPS.
Meh, that's BS, it's the sellers responsibility to make sure everything is sent and arrives. Then on top of that he accuses him of stealing and then states shipping was $30.00 when he only paid $17 to ship it?
Some people are amazing. If you pay me for something and you do not get it then it is my responsibility to make things right. Blaming USPS is stupid, that's the whole reason insurance is available (and it is cheap).
Some people are amazing. If you pay me for something and you do not get it then it is my responsibility to make things right. Blaming USPS is stupid, that's the whole reason insurance is available (and it is cheap).
Since many seem to be following this thread, I felt it appropriate and finally decided to post here for those that have not seen it...
As everyone knows that has been following this thread I had money and was throwing it left and right doing this build. But for the last month very little has gotten done to the car. No parts have been bought...the car is needing parts but was thrown together enough to drive. It needs new tires in the front and suspension!!! But I don't have the cash.
What was said was I didn't have the cash that things was tight. That I had blown and ordered a lot of stuff and that I wouldn't have any cash for several weeks. You was told that but you called bullshit and demanded money right then and there. As far as shipping...shipping was paid and parts was cheap. No one ever asked for insurance only thing people ever ask for is a tracking number. Which is what I made sure to provide to everyone. If they wanted faster shipment I took care of it...or if insurance was asked for it was done.
But the point is I told you I didn't have money. I don't you I had spent it all. I also told you I had a baby due on the 21st of this month.
I had two goals when doing this.
One was get the baby stuff and things done before the kid is here
two was buy, work, work, and work on the car. Get it done or as close as possible before the kid.
The kid will be here any day now and work is just now starting to pick back up. I do automotive work for people and I still have 3 that owe me!!! total close to 1000.
But the point was I've done what I could to explain things too you. I've asked you to wait and I've also told you I'd honor the 150. But for give me guys he's been a straight up a$$hole and a jerk. He has harassed me and been been straight up mean about everything.
and for the record I owe DRKSYDE 60 bucks as well in a refund...but he's been cool as hell and just for being cool as hell I've been thinking about sending him 100 just for the fact it has been like 4 weeks and he understands he told me it was cool. I try to let him know here and there I haven't forgot about him just so he knows.
But anyways all put aside the car hasn't gotten **** bought for it for a long while now. Money is just now starting to come in..and I guess I'm looking at it this way. He's been the way he has been and has tried to trash my name and rep when I've repeatably told him I'd pay him and told him I didn't have the funds at this time. He's tried to use paypal and got denied. So frankly I honestly don't have to pay him. But like I had told him. I sold all of my parts cheap!!! and I have done my best to keep everyone happy and like i had told him. If I have to eat it on something that I sold to him cheap then I guess I'll do so.
This stuff could go on for days and hours. I haven't bad mouthed him or called him a liar... all I ever did ask is how did you get the box and the two BIGGEST things in the box not be there and knowing how I packed the box...which was the manifold on bottom, followed by the motor mounts and then the rest on top of those. The middle didn't make it but the outsides edges did...the things that should of been lost first.
Awe hell I'm done with this **** I've tired of this crap if I had the damn money I'd throw it at him just so I can tell him to shut up and learn how to give some damn respect
As everyone knows that has been following this thread I had money and was throwing it left and right doing this build. But for the last month very little has gotten done to the car. No parts have been bought...the car is needing parts but was thrown together enough to drive. It needs new tires in the front and suspension!!! But I don't have the cash.
What was said was I didn't have the cash that things was tight. That I had blown and ordered a lot of stuff and that I wouldn't have any cash for several weeks. You was told that but you called bullshit and demanded money right then and there. As far as shipping...shipping was paid and parts was cheap. No one ever asked for insurance only thing people ever ask for is a tracking number. Which is what I made sure to provide to everyone. If they wanted faster shipment I took care of it...or if insurance was asked for it was done.
But the point is I told you I didn't have money. I don't you I had spent it all. I also told you I had a baby due on the 21st of this month.
I had two goals when doing this.
One was get the baby stuff and things done before the kid is here
two was buy, work, work, and work on the car. Get it done or as close as possible before the kid.
The kid will be here any day now and work is just now starting to pick back up. I do automotive work for people and I still have 3 that owe me!!! total close to 1000.
But the point was I've done what I could to explain things too you. I've asked you to wait and I've also told you I'd honor the 150. But for give me guys he's been a straight up a$$hole and a jerk. He has harassed me and been been straight up mean about everything.
and for the record I owe DRKSYDE 60 bucks as well in a refund...but he's been cool as hell and just for being cool as hell I've been thinking about sending him 100 just for the fact it has been like 4 weeks and he understands he told me it was cool. I try to let him know here and there I haven't forgot about him just so he knows.
But anyways all put aside the car hasn't gotten **** bought for it for a long while now. Money is just now starting to come in..and I guess I'm looking at it this way. He's been the way he has been and has tried to trash my name and rep when I've repeatably told him I'd pay him and told him I didn't have the funds at this time. He's tried to use paypal and got denied. So frankly I honestly don't have to pay him. But like I had told him. I sold all of my parts cheap!!! and I have done my best to keep everyone happy and like i had told him. If I have to eat it on something that I sold to him cheap then I guess I'll do so.
This stuff could go on for days and hours. I haven't bad mouthed him or called him a liar... all I ever did ask is how did you get the box and the two BIGGEST things in the box not be there and knowing how I packed the box...which was the manifold on bottom, followed by the motor mounts and then the rest on top of those. The middle didn't make it but the outsides edges did...the things that should of been lost first.
Awe hell I'm done with this **** I've tired of this crap if I had the damn money I'd throw it at him just so I can tell him to shut up and learn how to give some damn respect
So it's his fault that he didn't receive what he paid for and you already spent the money? Are we supposed to feel bad for you because you sold stuff cheap and started a crazy build with a baby on the way? Your personal problems shouldn't keep you from doing business. If they do, then you really shouldn't be doing business at this time. I'm not really a part of this, but none of that makes sense to me.
No I never asked anyone to feel bad for me. But point was there was several weeks between him paying me and us coming up with a amount for a refund. But like I've told him I haven't had the money and as you can tell in the picture it show's all my transactions between the 23rd and now and well...notice nothing since the 23rd. I use paypal to pay for everything.
Well, I have personally known Red Devil for about 4 yrs now. He is a person of good character and I can't see him trying to pull anything on anyone.
I also bought a fuel pump from outinnowhere3193. It arrived promptly and things went smooth. It was promptly upgraded with the BHR/Walbro pump upgrade and installed in my tank. The pump unit was never tested but the fuel sock was clean and I expect that when I put it in my failing pump assembly, it will run fine as a backup pump.
He did not, however give me a trader rating over the transaction.
I also bought a fuel pump from outinnowhere3193. It arrived promptly and things went smooth. It was promptly upgraded with the BHR/Walbro pump upgrade and installed in my tank. The pump unit was never tested but the fuel sock was clean and I expect that when I put it in my failing pump assembly, it will run fine as a backup pump.
He did not, however give me a trader rating over the transaction.
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I'll snap his neck.
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Got this message in my email before the mod deleted it:
"Fate710 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - 383 Stroker RX8 hoping for 500+ hp and tq buld. - in the Major Horsepower Upgrades forum of RX8Club.com.
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Nice mature post, Fate. Actually it seemed like a lot of people wanted to hear about it. I also doubt you would find it " drama" if it was your money. And if you had paid any attention, you would have seen that I was providing Outinnowhere tips to keep this from happening again.
Personally I find the lack of financial education in this country very disturbing. One of the many reasons our economy is in the mess that it is in is because of people making very uneducated financial decisions. I'm hoping that Outinnowhere is intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes and not end up becoming one of the many financial catastrophe statistics. In addition to wanting to see the transaction resolved successfully for a good friend of mine, I want Outinnowhere to learn from this relatively minor incident so that he can avoid major ones in the future. Especially with a child on the way.
You should also realize Red Devil is one of the most helpful members on this forum. He has personally helped me out a great deal, and he is a guy that operates with a high level of honesty and integrity.
"Fate710 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - 383 Stroker RX8 hoping for 500+ hp and tq buld. - in the Major Horsepower Upgrades forum of RX8Club.com.
This thread is located at:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...7&goto=newpost
Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Nice mature post, Fate. Actually it seemed like a lot of people wanted to hear about it. I also doubt you would find it " drama" if it was your money. And if you had paid any attention, you would have seen that I was providing Outinnowhere tips to keep this from happening again.
Personally I find the lack of financial education in this country very disturbing. One of the many reasons our economy is in the mess that it is in is because of people making very uneducated financial decisions. I'm hoping that Outinnowhere is intelligent enough to learn from his mistakes and not end up becoming one of the many financial catastrophe statistics. In addition to wanting to see the transaction resolved successfully for a good friend of mine, I want Outinnowhere to learn from this relatively minor incident so that he can avoid major ones in the future. Especially with a child on the way.
You should also realize Red Devil is one of the most helpful members on this forum. He has personally helped me out a great deal, and he is a guy that operates with a high level of honesty and integrity.
Last edited by mdw1000; Apr 23, 2010 at 07:16 PM. Reason: took out message at Zoom's request
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