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jmc23200 05-06-2009 08:06 AM

Kazuma = fail. He has been lying since last year. "Wrecked my car want my money back" was the email he sent and "did not remember" he wrote. Kazuma, do you have any emails saved? How about the email that you stated you wrecked your car? I'm betting you don't. You are trying to force these individuals to prove something that happened months ago while you do nothing but damper the investigation with more lies and hostility. You conveniently forget that you wrote or said something when it makes you look bad or hurts your case. The only thing that is happening in this thread is that BHR Members and Jeff made statements, you denied them, they prove them, and you "remember". I realy hope Jeff can find the tracking number that says it was shipped to your address so you can take this argument to the shipping company and leave these people alone.

To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company: If you dont like they way they run their business, then do not buy from them. There are too many satisfied customers to deal with a handful of fucktards. If you dont like bestbuy, staples or any other business because you do not agree with their service, prices, or quality, do you still go to them? Most likely not. Why sould this be any different. I would much rather get a good quality product and sacrifice a little customer service(due to being busy or what have you shit happens) then get a crappy product with great customer service. Then again, with the members on this site, maybe the second part of my last statement is true. Just look at all of the "OMG $600 turbo on ebay" threads :)

Jeff: If you havent done this already, make a special folder in your email for kazuma and save ALL emails to and from him. I have a feeling you may need them later on.

Red Devil 05-06-2009 08:54 AM

It amazes me how many people have taken sides on this issue given that there really are few facts supplied (though I'm sure I've been guilty of the same on here from time to time). I about the ones rallying for MM/BHR and if they would purchase from MM/BHR even if he were clearly in the wrong, just as much as the ones rallying against MM/BHR had little potential to be customers regardless of him being vindicated or not...

dillsrotary 05-06-2009 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by jmc23200 (Post 3006527)
To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company: .

?


Originally Posted by jmc23200 (Post 3006527)
Jeff: If you havent done this already, make a special folder in your email for kazuma and save ALL emails to and from him. I have a feeling you may need them later on.

I shouldn't post in this thread, has nothing to do with me, I suggest everyone else follow suit and keep petty opinions out. If you are not directly involved youre only making more clutter for them.

Kazuma 05-06-2009 01:17 PM

Just post the tracking number...why is this such a huge problem?

Delmeister 05-07-2009 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 3006564)
It amazes me how many people have taken sides on this issue given that there really are few facts supplied (though I'm sure I've been guilty of the same on here from time to time). I about the ones rallying for MM/BHR and if they would purchase from MM/BHR even if he were clearly in the wrong, just as much as the ones rallying against MM/BHR had little potential to be customers regardless of him being vindicated or not...

Tell me what side I'm on with this:

Jeff:
- what is preventing you from proving you sent out Kazuma's AP?
- you say Lance stole your AP. Hard to believe that could happen without someone having looked at the facts and deciding in his favor. What actually happened?

Flashwing 05-07-2009 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Delmeister (Post 3008297)
Hard to believe that could happen without someone having looked at the facts and deciding in his favor. What actually happened?

If google follows the same path that paypal does, the burden of proof is completly on the seller to prove that the product was delivered.

When Jeff was dealing with the korean turbo shippment paypal didn't even give him the alloted amount of time they claim to give. The case was opened and closed within a matter of 48 to 72 hours and his money was taken.

In regards to Lance's situation, I was told this evening that USPS delivered the package to the address Lance specified and it sat for 2 weeks without anyone picking it up. It's now being returned to MazdaManiac.

Jeff feel free to correct me if I'm somehow incorrect.

So, at the end of the day this whole outburst with Lance was for nothing. He wasn't able to provide the necessary information requested and finally when alternative shipping methods were used (at MazdaManiac's expense) the AP was never picked up.

A whole lot of crap for nothing.

Delmeister 05-07-2009 04:27 AM

Flashwing: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Red Devil 05-07-2009 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Delmeister (Post 3008297)
Tell me what side I'm on with this:

I didn't specifically name or quote you.

Delmeister 05-07-2009 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 3008473)
I didn't specifically name or quote you.

I know you didn't, but you said people had taken one side or the other, and without having all the facts. I'm just trying to get at the facts. What side is that?

Furthermore, is anyone really rallying against MM/BHR?

Detrich 05-07-2009 04:29 PM

oh boy...

Pink Flea 05-07-2009 07:57 PM

What it looks like happened to me is Jeff got confused by the emails along with the lapse of time. It looks like the OP emailed Jeff to let him know that since he had not recieved the AP to just refund him the money instead since he had wrecked his car and would no longer need it. Not that because he wrecked his car he wanted money back for something he already recieved. Looks like a misunderstanding IMO and I dont think either party is at fault. Now kiss and make up :)

BDC 05-08-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 3005694)
I say post the tracking info. IF it was shipped, there will be record of it for at least a year.

IF it shows that it was shipped but not delivered, the carrier should bear the brunt of the hell being unleashed here. IF it was not shipped (no number) than the seller should. If it was received, then the buyer should.

I fail to see why this has been so complicated. It should take no longer than 15 minutes to dig up a tracking number for any transaction less than a year old.

+1. This is very, very simple. All it requires is proper record keeping that ought to be done in the first place.

B

Kazuma 08-07-2009 07:06 AM

Still no tracking number! Nearly 1 year without an AP or a tracking number!
I don't understand why it's impossible for him to send me that tracking number!?!?!?

Moe

Kazuma 08-19-2009 02:53 PM

Bump!!!

ZumnRx8 08-19-2009 09:18 PM

MazdaManiac = GOOD GUY. MM FTW!!!

Kazuma 08-24-2009 03:39 AM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3179076)
MazdaManiac = GOOD GUY. MM FTW!!!

I just want him to send me the tracking number for an AP he said he sent me! I don't know why this is so difficult for him if he sent me one!

Eish 08-24-2009 07:11 AM

Wow
Just went through 8 pages of this thread.
I am honestly flumoxed.

swoope 08-27-2009 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by Kazuma (Post 3156602)
Still no tracking number! Nearly 1 year without an AP or a tracking number!
I don't understand why it's impossible for him to send me that tracking number!?!?!?

Moe

Kazuma = fail. He has been lying since last year. "Wrecked my car want my money back" was the email he sent and "did not remember" he wrote. Kazuma, do you have any emails saved? How about the email that you stated you wrecked your car? I'm betting you don't. You are trying to force these individuals to prove something that happened months ago while you do nothing but damper the investigation with more lies and hostility. You conveniently forget that you wrote or said something when it makes you look bad or hurts your case. The only thing that is happening in this thread is that BHR Members and Jeff made statements, you denied them, they prove them, and you "remember". I realy hope Jeff can find the tracking number that says it was shipped to your address so you can take this argument to the shipping company and leave these people alone.

To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company: If you dont like they way they run their business, then do not buy from them. There are too many satisfied customers to deal with a handful of fucktards. If you dont like bestbuy, staples or any other business because you do not agree with their service, prices, or quality, do you still go to them? Most likely not. Why sould this be any different. I would much rather get a good quality product and sacrifice a little customer service(due to being busy or what have you shit happens) then get a crappy product with great customer service. Then again, with the members on this site, maybe the second part of my last statement is true. Just look at all of the "OMG $600 turbo on ebay" threads

Jeff: If you havent done this already, make a special folder in your email for kazuma and save ALL emails to and from him. I have a feeling you may need them later on.

these are not my thoughts, but it is a good idea of the past. for the new that are looking at this.

beers :beer:

faith&firepower 08-29-2009 06:07 PM

I know for a fact that the lancefan situation got fixed. It was communication difficulties that was resolved a few weeks after the ban. Both parties got the items they needed (cash and the ap).

It doesn't look good for you though guy. Its hard to prove things a year later, especially when you don't have the evidence to support yourself.


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