jsjjr

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Dude, that is wrong on so many levels. WTF does 'been more agressive (sic) towards this instead of waiting'? That's totally the opposite of every other post that comes around here.

Here's his log of requests AFTER his Sept. payment date:

03-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
I know but it's different in my case...I paid for...

I know but it's different in my case...I paid for it last year and never got one and Jeff told me to check what happend...

Cheers,
Kazuma.



03-30-2009, 01:58 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please...

Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please tell me what was going on!


03-09-2009, 05:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news for me, Jeff?

Any news for me, Jeff?


03-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Another week without any news

Another week without any news


02-24-2009, 03:42 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Can you tell me what happened with my AP????

Can you tell me what happened with my AP????


02-24-2009, 09:25 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Any news for me????

Any news for me????



02-18-2009, 02:41 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU ?????

?????



02-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???

Any news???


02-13-2009, 03:56 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU That's right! So where is it? Can you check that?...

That's right! So where is it? Can you check that? Is it possible that you never shipped it but thougt you did?

Cheers,
Moe.



02-13-2009, 03:47 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for...

Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for since i've paid it...

Cheers,
Moe.




02-13-2009, 03:38 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting...

A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting for the Euro spec APs. Now you told me, it went out last year...I never got it...



Cheers,
Moe.


02-13-2009, 02:24 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you...

Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you some questions?

Moe.



02-13-2009, 01:48 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, where is my AP?????

Hey Jeff,
where is my AP?????



01-28-2009, 10:48 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???

Any news???


01-22-2009, 10:24 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????

Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????


12-11-2008, 03:54 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After...

Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After that I didn't recieve anything from you...Did I something wrong?

Please try pcmtech@tnc-import.com...


12-11-2008, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...

I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...



12-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)

Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)


12-11-2008, 02:39 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
You still have my money...please send it back or...

You still have my money...please send it back or send me an EUDM AP for 06 FI!



06-24-2008, 05:27 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
Hey Jeff, do you konw my shipping cost now???...

Hey Jeff,
do you konw my shipping cost now??? Want to send you money ...

Cheers,
Moe.

Easy_E1

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Kazuma
aka R-Styles,,

MM will send you an E-mail.

Razz1

I'm sorry this has happened.

MM is a good guy, but you do have an issue. MM will help you.

Easy1 will assist you.

jmc23200

Funny how he left this out.

Delmeister

Yes!
Believe it or not, any negative reactions I have to this topic are not directed to MM. I thing I have him pretty well pegged, and his behavior here is no surprise to me. What I find disturbing is how severely a fairly innocent person (I say fairly innocent because I would only place 5% of the blame on Lance) is chastised by MM supporters. Even highly respected individuals such as Stealth, RG, CRH, at best, smear out blame uniformly when it is not. And then the OP is attacked on his supposedly unreasonable reactions to having people doing the equivalent of repeatedly poking sharp sticks in his eye.

When you are accused of a wrongdoing, you need to try and respond to it one way or the other, otherwise it suggests you are guilty. Although it's tough to accept, imagine how much more respect Jeff would have received, from people on both sides of the fence, if he had just said at the start (and it's not too late) something like:

LANCE, I'M SORRY. THINGS JUST GOT CRAZY AROUND HERE VERY FAST. I'LL TRY AND MAKE IT UP TO YOU SOMEHOW, I PROMISE.

Easy_E1

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Patience. I am following a rather long and sordid paper trail. And I am coming to the end of it shortly.

laythor

you'll let him be on top next time?

Hund

As Easy has already stated, we are in the process of following the paper trail on this. I hope to have more info on it this evening.

shazy

No offense to you, wait Offense to you... **** Off Delmeister. What you said is the most ignorant thing here. Everyone has their off days, even CRH! But don't randomly talk about these respected people on the forum and don't talk out of your ***.

I hope CRH's post shut you up, n00b GTFO!

Flashwing

At this point, the issue with lance has been SOLVED. I'm sure he's enjoying his accessport as we speak. There was an issue with his address, the issue could not be resolved until Lance provided an address that UPS would take OR MazdaManiac found another method of shipping. Push came to shove and MazdaManiac sent the accessport via another route while also paying for upgraded shipping at his own expense.

Problem solved.

As for Kazuma, Easy and Hund are having to backtrack through a few months of emails and other paperwork to figure out what the situation is. Since MazdaManiac doesn't keep a surplus of Accessports in inventory I doubt the situation is as simple as the device was never mailed.

That being said, please let's just reserve our comments until the full facts have been discovered.

shazy

Then thread closed? Because it was resolved...Oh and, finally! Everything was resolved for a demanding customer!

Hund

Still working through the paper trail but lets be clear on something....

Google checkout status means nothing other than Jeff did not click the button that says shipped. He did not even start using that button until about Feb of this year.

Google does not maintain inventory of the APs, ship them or track their shipping. Should we click the google buttons for shipping and such? Yes, but it is not a requirement. It does not have any effect on ANYTHING.

I will post up more info as soon as I have it available.

TTFN!

Amaris8

he's a busy man. patience is a virtue. although i think i remember getting it in 2 weeks or so.

Delmeister

No shazy, the thread is not closed unless you don't see this post. Take it easy man. If you're upset with me for not including you as one of the distinguished few, well, sorry eh.

Ray:
Yes I will admit that there are some difficult people out there and it would not surprise me that Lance is one of them, and I don't know what to make of the fact that Brice from Fluid agrees with you. Unless I missed something, I did not see Fluid respond to this "......When I spent $1000 with Fluid that ****** told me that everything was there ready to ship. 4 weeks later he still hadn't done anything with my order."

I know, it's another complaint by the same person, but open accusations such as this, and those that have been directed to Jeff need to be responded to by the person being accused. What is particularly incomprehensible is that Jeff, and other distinguished members, have used this very forum to draw attention to their own plight. They wanted the facts out because they felt they had a legitimate case. Once such a thing is opened up in this forum, then one must play by the rules, and the main rule is that both parties tell their side of the story. Your buddies standing up for you doesn't cut it. It's not about how good a guy you are in other respects, it's about the details of how this matter was handled.

You have to admit it is wrong to repeatedly bash the complainant without first having all the facts on the table. Yes, you and the others I've mentioned are highly regarded. That is precisely why I hoped for a more reasonable response from you (plural, as in youse guys). That means a little more appreciation of the facts as we know them (Lance's side), and some utterance to the effect that Jeff should be addressing these accusations directly.

Your statement: "Even when those in the know tell me I am not to blame I STILL do what I can to make the customer happy" is commendable, but not something a lot of vendors can claim. People don't remember vendors' arguments against accusations as much as they remember that they were big enough to take the action to satisfy someone else at their own expense. In fact I'm mystified as to why some vendors react so negatively to accusations. It's a unique form of free advertising. If they portrayed a more helpful rather than a defensive stand (regardless of fault), you'd think the respect they would gain would more than compensate for the immediate losses in the form of greater future business.

Thanks for trying but I'm afraid you did not convince me, and I have to ask .... why is it that I cannot convince you? Is it really so unreasonable to ask that we keep our eye on the ball? Although true, it is not really relevant that Jeff can be difficult to work with sometimes, about other vendors' opinions, how hard you have worked to gain your reputation, how big the AP business is, or how difficult Lance may be to deal with.

I know this for sure. Some people here have been unreasonable in their reaction to Lance. I think I am being reasonable in my reactions to those reactions. Do you really think I am not?

Amaris8: It may have escaped some people, but I did notice that pksan123 said exactly the same thing in the second post of this thread.

alz0rz

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/\ reading your post reminds me of Atlas Shrugged..

Delmeister

Reading your post I don't know what you're talking about.

Delmeister

Now I do. For those who don't, and want more ammunition to bash me:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
Atlas Shrugged is a novel by Ayn Rand, first published in 1957 in the United States. It was Rand's fourth, longest, and last novel, and she considered it her magnum opus in the realm of fiction writing.[1] As indicated by its working title The Strike, the book explores a dystopian United States where leading industrialists and businessmen refuse to allow the government to exploit their labor for the "general good." The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry, while society's most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively disappear. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the "minds" that drive society's growth and productivity; with their strike these creative minds hope to demonstrate that the economy and society would collapse without the profit motive and the efforts of the rational and productive.

The novel's title is a reference to the mythical Titan Atlas, who in the novel is said to hold the weight of the world on his shoulders.[2] The novel includes elements of mystery and science fiction,[3] and contains Rand's most extensive statement of Objectivism in any of her works of fiction, a lengthy monologue delivered by the strike's leader, John Galt.[4]

The theme of Atlas Shrugged is the morality of rational self-interest. It advocates the core tenets of Rand's philosophy of Objectivism and expresses her concept of human achievement. The book explores a number of philosophical themes that Rand would subsequently develop into the philosophy of Objectivism.[5][6] It centers on the decline of Western civilization, and Rand described it as demonstrating the theme of "the role of man's mind in existence." In doing so it expresses many facets of Rand's philosophy, such as the advocacy of reason, individualism, the market economy and the failure of government.

Atlas Shrugged received largely negative reviews after its 1957 publication,[7] but achieved enduring popularity and consistent sales in the following decades. In the wake of the late 2000s recession sales of Atlas Shrugged have sharply increased, according to The Economist magazine and The New York Times. The Economist reported that the fifty-two-year-old novel ranked #33 among Amazon.com's top-selling books on 13 January, 2009[8]. More than a month after these news reports, on 2 April, 2009, the novel ranked #15 at Amazon and they ranked it their #1 seller in "Fiction and Literature."

cjkim

well, for the record my statement was directed more towards the flamer comments that have already been removed by a mod. I don't think any one of the individuals you named flamed Lance. Good it's been resolved though! (at least Kazuma's case anyways )

jones75254

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Every customer in the world would be bit weary when a deadline is 10 days past and they would expect at least one replied email as to status. Communication in this case was non-existent, a fault of no one but MM. Period.

Hmmm, the customer is paying for the product and a certain level of professionalism. Vendors are being paid to get the product to the customer. Once that $ has been accepted, its THEIR responsibility to get that product in the hands of the buyer in the most efficient way possible. If there is a hitch and the buyer is repeatedly trying to notify the seller of it, it is THEIR responsiblity to find out what that hitch is and to COMMUNICATE w/ the buyer to take steps to rectify it.

U guys can get on me if you want, but i cant help to remind you the basic fundamentals of customer service. #1 is communication...communication... communication! Thats what is at the root of all this. Not "MM is busy", "his custom tunes take time", "quality takes time", "the address was wrong"...he simply did not take the time to communicate. Its on him, instead of making excuses and trying to give vendor's POV, how about showing some ***** and accepting responsiblity, fixing it and moving on to become better (like he has with Hund). The End.

bose

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Hey Everyone!

jones75254

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At least you communicated this to him. That gives you credibility should he DARED start a badguy thread about you (i shudder at what would have happend to him if he had). Minor delays happen, EVERYONE understands that, and u did your job by letting him know that and reassuring that it is coming and letting him know u will be keeping an eye on it. Im also sure u didnt leave him hanging for days/weeks even in lieu of his hostility. No u didnt, because you know what customer service is. Difference is, MM ignored his emails, likely due to their threatening/hostile nature, so long that he had no choice but to start a thread to get answers, which he did. Im not defending him as a person, im just defending this particular situation.

I commend u on how u handled it Mr. Hill, had it been myself, i likely would have refunded his $ immediately, canceled the order, and "politely" advised him to take his business elsewhere....being the gentle lil angel i am

laythor

because they get to test all of these new things... those greedy bastards

Flashwing

I keep asking Easy to let me test the BHR chick magnet but he won't let anyone else use it.

I need another co-star for my next DVD.