BAD GUY: MazdaManiac
BAD GUY:Jeff Abrams/MazdaManiac
Paid in full 07/19/08, still missing AccessPort ($695 value). 11/15/2009 Update: Unannounced package received from Arizona at my parents' home. Picking it up in a few days, further update then. Update: AP received. The History (compiled from saved emails and PMs, forwarded to anyone upon request):
I should have posted this for the benefit of the forum long ago, but I am, by nature, a very patient and trusting person. Yet, I do not wish this experience upon another member of our community. I am so dead serious about this that, if the usual group of MM fanboys (or even MM himself) insist I'm lying, I am prepared to temporarily give forum moderators access to my forum and email accounts so they may personally verify the validity of the above information, which came entirely from past emails and forum PMs. |
Damn...
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RWagz; good luck in resolving this. That's a long time to wait for a package.
a few comments if I may: - no need to conceal the identity of the person in bullet point 10: we all remember Stealth's story. - as for the last paragaph: no need to grant access to the Mods / Admins: you don't actually think Private Messages are private do you? |
Wow ....
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3304935)
RWagz; good luck in resolving this. That's a long time to wait for a package.
a few comments if I may: - no need to conceal the identity of the person in bullet point 10: we all remember Stealth's story. - as for the last paragaph: no need to grant access to the Mods / Admins: you don't actually think Private Messages are private do you? Edit: For the first time since joining this forum, I'm thinking of changing my avatar; I'm thinking one of those red circles with a slash through it and MazdaManiac inside/behind. |
you're right, your new siggy is not cautious, its' annoying.
/end threadjack |
Mission accomplished then.
Edit: Meh, it is annoying. Changed. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3304942)
you're right, your new siggy is not cautious, its' annoying.
/end threadjack |
I don't know anything personally about this situation, but I can speak from experience when I guess that any issues you are having with Jeff Abram's products or services has probably been exacerbated by poor or complete lack of communication. I have no idea where your AccessPORT went, but I don't believe Jeff would deliberately fail to ship you the product and intentionally screw you out of money.
That being said, I've seen time and time again a ...divergence of opinions... between Jeff and his customers about the level of effort being put into a transaction. He may feel he has already done you several "favors" by trying to work with your changes in address etc, and if the AccessPORT subsequently went missing it's not his fault and he certainly isn't going to take the blame (or cost) for it. While I personally think Jeff has the worst customer service I've ever seen, I don't think this situation was intentional or malevolent. If Jeff doesn't feel responsible for the lost product he sure as hell isn't going to do anything to help you about it, and saying anything publicly against him has sealed that fate. Unless you intend to attempt legal action, you might as well say goodbye to that money, consider yourself informed and move on. |
:dark::dark: wow not again
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Team: how am I being hostile?
I sincerely hope RWagz gets resolution in this, I'm not on anyone's side here. I'm pretty sure RW realized I was messin' with him with the annoying comment. Next time I'll put a little smiley face at the end for you. ;) |
makes me sick to see this stuff.
the rx-8 community is interesting in that our operations are so small, we have the luxury and burden of knowing certain personalities intimately. a bigger, more mainstream community has more options and many of the organizations that offer products and services are larger than what we are used to here. i say luxury and burden because on the one hand, it's nice to know the people working hard to help make the car better. on the other hand, it's a nightmare when things don't go perfectly. you feel more betrayed and like you have less options than you would with some company that works on lots of cars. it's gotten to the point where i feel like anyone who buys anything within this community walks a razor. tldr?: hang onto your money unless you're a gambling man. |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3304961)
Team: how am I being hostile?
I sincerely hope RWagz gets resolution in this, I'm not on anyone's side here. I'm pretty sure RW realized I was messin' with him with the annoying comment. Next time I'll put a little smiley face at the end for you. ;) |
Originally Posted by Jedi54
(Post 3304961)
Team: how am I being hostile?
I sincerely hope RWagz gets resolution in this, I'm not on anyone's side here. I'm pretty sure RW realized I was messin' with him with the annoying comment. Next time I'll put a little smiley face at the end for you. ;) I do wonder though... is the shipping of the AccessPORT insured? Could RWagz get a claim through the mail that the item never arrived? I don't know who's court that falls into, but the only way I see this being resolved amniacably is if someone other than MM or RWagz pays for the missing item. |
If the story is true then as far as the shipper is concerned the package arrived. No insurance recourse there even if it was a week rather than several months from receipt.
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After the first few attempts to contact him about the AP were ignored I figured I could kiss my $700 goodbye. He may as well have met me in person and told me, face to face, "f__ you, buddy."
So, honestly, he made it clear to me that I stood to lose nothing by posting this. I was already screwed. Edit: So funny; there's still this little voice inside that persists in believing Jeff will do the right thing now that I've exposed this to the forum. |
Wow I would have gone crazy just waiting one month hope it all wrks out.
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let me tell u that your not gonna get ur money back or ap, u know that mm dont care .... flame suit on
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Oh dear.....
Let me reserve judgment until I have heard both sides of ther story. |
Wow, that's sad.
One Year, Three Months, Two Weeks........ Jeff has a new record! S |
Originally Posted by RWagz
(Post 3305001)
Edit: So funny; there's still this little voice inside that persists in believing Jeff will do the right thing now that I've exposed this to the forum.
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Flawed from the start. If you don't have the full funds to procure an item.... and a bounced check to boot???!!!
======= 02/25/08 - $200 check sent to Jeff as deposit on the sale. 04/29/08 - Add AP to order and change shipping address. At this time I am told average build time is 8 weeks. Around the 2nd week of June I send out a check to Jeff for the order total. 07/06/08 - Jeff acknowledges receipt of check. 07/07/08 - Jeff emails me that there's a problem with the check. I had sent a check from an old (closed) account. Whoops! |
Originally Posted by Huey52
(Post 3305138)
Flawed from the start. If you don't have the full funds to procure an item.... and a bounced check to boot???!!!
======= 02/25/08 - $200 check sent to Jeff as deposit on the sale. 04/29/08 - Add AP to order and change shipping address. At this time I am told average build time is 8 weeks. Around the 2nd week of June I send out a check to Jeff for the order total. 07/06/08 - Jeff acknowledges receipt of check. 07/07/08 - Jeff emails me that there's a problem with the check. I had sent a check from an old (closed) account. Whoops! |
Originally Posted by Huey52
nonsense
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Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 3305137)
Keep copying Ray Charles, 'though, he's not blind to this kind of thing.
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