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brillo 09-12-2005 03:23 PM

Z4 Coupe - What part of ugly did BMW and Bangle not get the first time around?
 
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specia...e/pages/01.htm

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 03:28 PM

Oooo, me likey!!!
See this thread, I'm pretty sure I inspired it :D
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=z4%2A

here are my artistic renditions
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...57&postcount=6
where do I pick up my royalty cheques?

for the record. I like all of bangles BMW designs.

QBallz 09-12-2005 03:45 PM

Hey look another butt ugly BMW. I believe my wife put it best last time we saw a BMW drive by "BMW is like the civic of luxury cars".

Ike 09-12-2005 03:46 PM

I think the Z4 is my least favorite of the Bangle designs, but that coupe is gorgeous. It's kinda TVR like.

Blueeyes, I wouldn't expect any checks if I were you. Unless they payout for examples of how not to design the Z4 coupe :p

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 03:53 PM

given that I was using paint, and knowing my artistic capabilities, anyone could see that if I had access to the proper tools my version would look the exact same as bangles. Hence, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by QBallz
Hey look another butt ugly BMW. I believe my wife put it best last time we saw a BMW drive by "BMW is like the civic of luxury cars".

Because a lot of people have them? sure a lot of those that own them do so for the name, but there is no denying they are wonderful driving cars.

Ike 09-12-2005 04:04 PM

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I just can't fathom how people are calling this car ugly...

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=58707&stc=1
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=58708&stc=1

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 04:04 PM

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whoring up the old post count with this thread :D
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...id=58709&stc=1

ZoomZoomH 09-12-2005 04:11 PM

The Shoe is back!!!

i like it, giggity

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I just can't fathom how people are calling this car ugly...

Well, for some, it's trendy to make fun of BMW designs. Especially for people that can't afford them. NOT SAYING ANYONE HERE. You're more than welcome to not like it.

I love the roof, looks great with that dip in the middle. Sharp looking car. Now, lets see and ///M Coupe with some fat ass fenders and the new M3 power plant! :drrroooll: pure sex.

Aoshi Shinomori 09-12-2005 04:11 PM

I really like this. I was thinking the same thing Ike, it screams TVR. I'm impressed with this, but I'd love to see it in action. C'mon Top Gear, get on it! :D

Aoshi Shinomori 09-12-2005 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Well, for some, it's trendy to make fun of BMW designs. Especially for people that can't afford them. NOT SAYING ANYONE HERE. You're more than welcome to not like it.

I love the roof, looks great with that dip in the middle. Sharp looking car. Now, lets see and ///M Coupe with some fat ass fenders and the new M3 power plant! :drrroooll: pure sex.

400 horsepower in that little car. I'm shivering, t'will be quite the coupe if I say so myself.

Mugatu 09-12-2005 04:24 PM

the rear of the hatch looks like a giant bubble.

rotten42 09-12-2005 04:30 PM

Its got one of those designs that I have to see in person before passing judgement.

Cam 09-12-2005 05:06 PM

I love the design. If I had the money I'd buy one when it comes out.

m477 09-12-2005 05:15 PM

It's not that the coupe is any uglier than the convertible. The problem IMO is that the roof/hatch looks like it belongs to a different car compared to the rest of the design. It doesn't match the rest of the car.

Spin9k 09-12-2005 05:18 PM

It's pretty - Everything is ok except two things IMO, one the sculpted sides - yuk - reminds me of a Ford Taurus - a triple yuk look car, and the 'tortose shell' look from the side front, that includes the scuplted side - looks like a shell is covering the car down to the headlamps and back over the top - a bit wierd.

Not that it's terrible - but these design cues detract from the rather attractive style and shape IMO, and they could not be there and it would look much, much cleaner, less fussy and heavy looking.

RX-Hachi 09-12-2005 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I just can't fathom how people are calling this car ugly...

I can. In fact, I think I like the old Z3/M Coupe better and that was a funky looking car too. To each his own...

VikingDJ 09-12-2005 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I just can't fathom how people are calling this car ugly...

I can. So many nice looking cars have been called ugly on this site. But I agree, this car is gorgeous, and those calling it ugly would not be saying that if they had one handed to them. :) Those calling this ugly are definitely WELL into the minority that's for sure. :)

Psylence 09-12-2005 06:37 PM

Ugly is not the word.

Fugly, on the other hand...

BlueEyes 09-12-2005 06:39 PM

what is ugly about it? I'm not argueing with you, I just want to see if I can see it from your viewpoint.

Captain Amazing 09-12-2005 07:05 PM

It looks like it is going to sleep.

Rhawb 09-12-2005 07:43 PM

I like every view but the front 3/4. Looks goofy and kinda fat from that angle. I really like the straight on side view, reminds me of a Ferrari.

psbjames1970 09-12-2005 07:56 PM

Nice looks but reminds me of the Crossfire without the cool spoiler...

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/chry...ire/index.html

QBallz 09-12-2005 08:21 PM

I can't put my finger on it exactly. It has lots of different lines through out the body, but still manages to look boring and plain I guess. That and it has the same front end style as every other BMW, which I have never liked.


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
what is ugly about it? I'm not argueing with you, I just want to see if I can see it from your viewpoint.


RX-Hachi 09-12-2005 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by VikingDJ
and those calling it ugly would not be saying that if they had one handed to them. :)

Doesn't matter, if you don't care for something, you don't care for something.

While I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, I wouldn't keep it either. Lots of other cars I'd prefer for the money.

s13lover 09-12-2005 09:20 PM

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I like it better than the convertible. However, I hate the fender gap that sweeps up and the seam through the BMW emblem.

I think this looks much better (couldn't get rid of the seam):

T.T. 09-13-2005 01:53 AM

The 3/4 view makes the car look really weird. It's as if the front of the car doesn't belong to the rest of it. The whole thing doesn't flow together.

mikeb 09-13-2005 02:26 AM

I would have to see it in person
but zoomzoomh is right it kinda looks like a shoe

Dinhx8 09-13-2005 02:26 AM

i don't think its ugly, but im not sure i'd toss the gorgeous word around for it either. my first impression was what the?, but i do like it in its uniqueness and that i give it credit for. but im not sure its gorgeous. its like a weird punky european runway model with like a weird face but somehow is a bit hot.

as far as Ike's mention of the TVR-i see a bit in the rear section, but think the TVRs are truly 'gorgeous' cars.-not ready to embrace this one as such quite yet, but thats just me.

NgoRX8 09-13-2005 02:41 AM

I'd have to see it in person, but according to the pictures, the top doesn't look right for the Z4.

GotBass 09-13-2005 02:57 AM

I dont mind the designs, the worst thing about the new BMWs is the fact that they are pushing everything to be SMG

rowteree 09-13-2005 09:31 AM

wow that is nice. You have to crazy to think that's ugly

KYLiquid 09-13-2005 09:41 AM

much better looking than the convertable, glad to see the hatch back 2 seater roaster is again offered by BMW, my fav z3 was the ///M edition hatch back.

I think it looks like the old shelby coupe.

Theres always a spot in my heart for a classic 2 seater long-bonnet car....like the old toyota 2000gt

gh0st 09-13-2005 10:31 AM

as with all bmw's with excetion to the 3 series, i will hate it untill i see it in person. then its nothing but love. shape reminds me of ferrari with a bmw face.

denward

jlapp9 09-13-2005 11:05 AM

Very nice! I don't like any of the new BMW's but this one looks great.

RA-Eight 09-13-2005 11:08 AM

You either love it or hate it...

I love it. I bet it will be a beast on the tracks.

BlueEyes 09-13-2005 11:20 AM

we'll see about tracks. It's going to need more engine than the roadster has to dream of keeping up with the Cayman.

draco067 09-13-2005 11:20 AM

I love it.

TheColonel 09-13-2005 11:28 AM

I loved the M coupe and this def better looking than the convt z4. However, I still have a strong dislike for the Z4. It's a totally different car from the Z3 and not a worthy replacement in my opinion.

canaryrx8 09-13-2005 11:29 AM

awesome! I'd drive the crap out of that :)

Psylence 09-13-2005 02:24 PM

Cayman > Z4 coupe.

By a loooooooooong margin. At the end of the day, that Z4 is merely a BMW. And those are a dime a dozen pretty much everywhere.

M6 is the only new BMW worth having, because it has "The Motor." But the company does have an unhealthy appetite for that SMG nonsense these days..

BlueEyes 09-13-2005 02:28 PM

ugh, okay. Merely a BMW, that's actually pretty humorous. Corvette is merely a chevy, Viper merely a dodge, and an rx8 merely a mazda. I see those mazda 3's everywhere now.

policyvote 09-13-2005 02:41 PM

The front end is nasty, but everything else is stunningly beautiful.

Peace
policy

DreRX8 09-13-2005 02:49 PM

yuck

It will probably drive well--the shoe was actually one of the best handling BMWs.

BlueEyes 09-13-2005 02:54 PM

some new pics in the link in the first post.

VikingDJ 09-13-2005 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Doesn't matter, if you don't care for something, you don't care for something.

While I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, I wouldn't keep it either. Lots of other cars I'd prefer for the money.

That makes sense if you are judging the car based on it's price, and not ignoring that element. I guess if the RX8 was this expensive it wouldn't be all that good looking would it. ;) Of course looks are only skin deep. Looking at it in a pic and saying IT LOOKS UGLY, means very little without really getting to know the car, and how it drives and feels. I will respect opinions by those who have throughly driven one and gotten to know car first. I've done it, then I drive the car, and I go OMG. It's like the decent looking babe vs the hotty. You date the hotty, she starts talking and suddently she looks OK. The decent looking gal has a golden personality, and before long she looks gorgeous. You see one in person, drive it around for a day, it is possible you can swing. I have driven several BMWS, and I have to say, they are indeed the ultimate driving machine. When people call this car ugly, that means it's so HOT many people can't stand the heat,. :)

RA-Eight 09-13-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
we'll see about tracks. It's going to need more engine than the roadster has to dream of keeping up with the Cayman.

The current Z4 isn't a mule on the tracks right now either, so I'm sure a coupe version would definitely have some handling improvements. I'm sure the engine will be hooked up also. If history repeats itself, a la M coupe (Z3-variant), then expect that the Motorsports division to have it's way with it.

gh0st 09-13-2005 03:14 PM

doesnt the m5 and the m6 have the same engine?

denward

BlueEyes 09-13-2005 03:18 PM

yes.


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