Will the 05 Mustang Take my Glory!!!
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Originally posted by Genom
Just a quibble. Sports package adds nothing to performance. Non of the options for the 6 speed MT are performance enhancing in any way. They are all cosmetic packages.
Just a quibble. Sports package adds nothing to performance. Non of the options for the 6 speed MT are performance enhancing in any way. They are all cosmetic packages.
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The base 6 MT already has the 18 wheels and larger front rotors. The sport package adds xenon headlights and DSC.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
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Originally posted by Genom
The base 6 MT already has the 18 wheels and larger front rotors. The sport package adds xenon headlights and DSC.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
The base 6 MT already has the 18 wheels and larger front rotors. The sport package adds xenon headlights and DSC.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
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i am a mustang fan, and i do like the new mustang, but however successful and popular it turns out to be, it won't really be on the same par as the 8. it'll be a much more mass-produced coupe, cheaper, less exotic, and low-tech. it caters to a much larger crowd, whereas the 8 is more of a cult car, a lot sweeter, compared to it. i'm pretty sure you'll see more people lining up for the new 'stang, and you'll see a mad rush of it on the road initially, just 'cuz it's a mustang. don't really think it's right to compare the two, mustang's a big muscle pony car that's traditionally not high in the handling department but more of an american standard-issue sports car. in any case, the 8 will hold its own
you really stand by your magazine, those're words taken straight from car and driver. well, looks are very subjective. sam mitani of r&t thought the 8 is the best-looking car ever to come out of japan. i whole-heartedly agree; the 8's maserati-ish front grill is so well-penned, as are its front fenders and canted headlights, the rear end, the greenhouse, to me it is a very beautiful, very sporty yet distinctive design with a good dose of traditional sports car cues. on the contrary, i find the G35 coupe and 350z ugly, though i do like the 350z. but i love the elise
Originally posted by revhappy
a car with suicide doors and a "bulbous profile" are not going to win int he looks department over these more expensive dedicated sports car.
a car with suicide doors and a "bulbous profile" are not going to win int he looks department over these more expensive dedicated sports car.
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Originally posted by chinx
i am a mustang fan, and i do like the new mustang, but however successful and popular it turns out to be, it won't really be on the same par as the 8. it'll be a much more mass-produced coupe, cheaper, less exotic, and low-tech. it caters to a much larger crowd, whereas the 8 is more of a cult car, a lot sweeter, compared to it. i'm pretty sure you'll see more people lining up for the new 'stang, and you'll see a mad rush of it on the road initially, just 'cuz it's a mustang. don't really think it's right to compare the two, mustang's a big muscle pony car that's traditionally not high in the handling department but more of an american standard-issue sports car. in any case, the 8 will hold its own
you really stand by your magazine, those're words taken straight from car and driver. well, looks are very subjective. sam mitani of r&t thought the 8 is the best-looking car ever to come out of japan. i whole-heartedly agree; the 8's maserati-ish front grill is so well-penned, as are its front fenders and canted headlights, the rear end, the greenhouse, to me it is a very beautiful, very sporty yet distinctive design with a good dose of traditional sports car cues. on the contrary, i find the G35 coupe and 350z ugly, though i do like the 350z. but i love the elise
i am a mustang fan, and i do like the new mustang, but however successful and popular it turns out to be, it won't really be on the same par as the 8. it'll be a much more mass-produced coupe, cheaper, less exotic, and low-tech. it caters to a much larger crowd, whereas the 8 is more of a cult car, a lot sweeter, compared to it. i'm pretty sure you'll see more people lining up for the new 'stang, and you'll see a mad rush of it on the road initially, just 'cuz it's a mustang. don't really think it's right to compare the two, mustang's a big muscle pony car that's traditionally not high in the handling department but more of an american standard-issue sports car. in any case, the 8 will hold its own
you really stand by your magazine, those're words taken straight from car and driver. well, looks are very subjective. sam mitani of r&t thought the 8 is the best-looking car ever to come out of japan. i whole-heartedly agree; the 8's maserati-ish front grill is so well-penned, as are its front fenders and canted headlights, the rear end, the greenhouse, to me it is a very beautiful, very sporty yet distinctive design with a good dose of traditional sports car cues. on the contrary, i find the G35 coupe and 350z ugly, though i do like the 350z. but i love the elise
I tend to agree with the criticism of the RX-8s looks, and C&D is not the only car mag to point out that it's kind of a mish mosh of designing ideas. I think it looks great but 10 years from now the FD will still look better, as will the G35, and early Z models, maybe even Supra to some degree. They are clean classic and elegant designs. Understated (the Supra less so) yet still eye catching. The RX-8 looks great now, but I would liken it to a woman with plastic surgery and a boob job. Looks great now, but 10 years from now it will look overly done up and like it's trying too hard. <awaits the flames>
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Originally posted by Genom
The base 6 MT already has the 18 wheels and larger front rotors. The sport package adds xenon headlights and DSC.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
The base 6 MT already has the 18 wheels and larger front rotors. The sport package adds xenon headlights and DSC.
Touring adds upgraded stereo, moonroof, Homelink Mirror and leather. GT finishes it with seat warmers, electric driver seat and heated mirrors I beleive (this is all from memory but can be found on the mazda site). Navigation is an option for any package. The base and sport are the same weight. The others add about 50 pounds total I think from the options. Some people weighed their cars when it first came out so a quick search I am sure would find the posts.
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Originally posted by chinx
you really stand by your magazine, those're words taken straight from car and driver. well, looks are very subjective. sam mitani of r&t thought the 8 is the best-looking car ever to come out of japan. i whole-heartedly agree; the 8's maserati-ish front grill is so well-penned, as are its front fenders and canted headlights, the rear end, the greenhouse, to me it is a very beautiful, very sporty yet distinctive design with a good dose of traditional sports car cues. on the contrary, i find the G35 coupe and 350z ugly, though i do like the 350z. but i love the elise
you really stand by your magazine, those're words taken straight from car and driver. well, looks are very subjective. sam mitani of r&t thought the 8 is the best-looking car ever to come out of japan. i whole-heartedly agree; the 8's maserati-ish front grill is so well-penned, as are its front fenders and canted headlights, the rear end, the greenhouse, to me it is a very beautiful, very sporty yet distinctive design with a good dose of traditional sports car cues. on the contrary, i find the G35 coupe and 350z ugly, though i do like the 350z. but i love the elise
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Originally posted by revhappy
Is the Base Model actually avaialble on the lots? When I went for a test-drive they only had Sport, Touring and Grand Touring.
Is the Base Model actually avaialble on the lots? When I went for a test-drive they only had Sport, Touring and Grand Touring.
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For those who might say the Search is not accurate: I found mine through this thing. I wrote down the VIN and called the dealer. 5 minutes later, they confirmed it was in stock. So, from my perspective, it should be pretty accurate. Oh, BTW, there is at least 1 page of 6sp base models (nearby me)
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ok, I am a die-hard Mustang fan. The new 2005 Mustang going to be a 4 seater, it'll have a 125 color selection for backlighting for the dash,
Here are some photos:
Production version of 2005 Mustang
Production version interior
4.6L 3V V8 GT engine photo
Guage Cluster lit green
Production version rear end
Gauge Cluster - blue
Production version interior view of driver's seat:
Test mule version of 2005 Mustang:
The 2003/04 SVT Cobra has independent rear suspension (IRS) as most of you know, which is good and bad. Good for handling of turns and twisties. Bad because with 390 bhp and 390 lb ft torque - it produces a tremoundous amount of wheel hop, which you wouldn't get from a solid live axle. IRS is not the greatest confirguation if you plan on going to the track. Another good with the Cobra is it is highly mod-able and could give 450+ hp with not much trouble or money. I read an article that said "$1199 in mod will yield lows 11's in 1/4 mile on stock tires" and said what you need and how to do it for $1199 without having to remove anything from the interior.
oh btw... I think the Audi TT is one of the best looking cars on the road, but that is my own personal subjective opinion.
Here are some photos:
Production version of 2005 Mustang
Production version interior
4.6L 3V V8 GT engine photo
Guage Cluster lit green
Production version rear end
Gauge Cluster - blue
Production version interior view of driver's seat:
Test mule version of 2005 Mustang:
The 2003/04 SVT Cobra has independent rear suspension (IRS) as most of you know, which is good and bad. Good for handling of turns and twisties. Bad because with 390 bhp and 390 lb ft torque - it produces a tremoundous amount of wheel hop, which you wouldn't get from a solid live axle. IRS is not the greatest confirguation if you plan on going to the track. Another good with the Cobra is it is highly mod-able and could give 450+ hp with not much trouble or money. I read an article that said "$1199 in mod will yield lows 11's in 1/4 mile on stock tires" and said what you need and how to do it for $1199 without having to remove anything from the interior.
oh btw... I think the Audi TT is one of the best looking cars on the road, but that is my own personal subjective opinion.
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I tend to agree with the criticism of the RX-8s looks, and C&D is not the only car mag to point out that it's kind of a mish mosh of designing ideas. I think it looks great but 10 years from now the FD will still look better, as will the G35, and early Z models, maybe even Supra to some degree. They are clean classic and elegant designs. Understated (the Supra less so) yet still eye catching. The RX-8 looks great now, but I would liken it to a woman with plastic surgery and a boob job. Looks great now, but 10 years from now it will look overly done up and like it's trying too hard. <awaits the flames>
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I tend to agree with the criticism of the RX-8s looks, and C&D is not the only car mag to point out that it's kind of a mish mosh of designing ideas. I think it looks great but 10 years from now the FD will still look better, as will the G35, and early Z models, maybe even Supra to some degree. They are clean classic and elegant designs. Understated (the Supra less so) yet still eye catching. The RX-8 looks great now, but I would liken it to a woman with plastic surgery and a boob job. Looks great now, but 10 years from now it will look overly done up and like it's trying too hard. <awaits the flames>
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I completely agree...and this is coming someone with a car desiging background. The Rx-8 looks great now, and I'd love to have one. Its just that the looks scream "LOOK AT ME!! I'm a top performance machine!!" Very flashy, yet it doesn't quite have the power to back it up yet. Amongst the automotive designers, its a great design, but not a classic. It will die earlier than the classier styled cars: g35 (not the 350Z though), FD etc....although the Supra is considered pig ugly to us designers except for the tailights. Our main complaint is: It needs more power to back up it's looks.
Personally, I love the way it looks. I don't care whether it will remain good looking after 6 years or not, I want one now. I sold my FD and bought an S2K which I kind of regret...I'm thinking of selling the S2K and pickin up an 8. The S is good looking, but not Great looking....kind of conservative, but thats just the way Honda is. Always playing it safe. The Element was their most valiant and risk taking effort in the design department (unfortunetly to most of the untrained eye its a disaster) thats sold in the U.S....
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Originally posted by Saint_Spinner
The S is good looking, but not Great looking....kind of conservative, but thats just the way Honda is. Always playing it safe. The Element was their most valiant and risk taking effort in the design department (unfortunetly to most of the untrained eye its a disaster) thats sold in the U.S....
The S is good looking, but not Great looking....kind of conservative, but thats just the way Honda is. Always playing it safe. The Element was their most valiant and risk taking effort in the design department (unfortunetly to most of the untrained eye its a disaster) thats sold in the U.S....
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yup. Love the NSX (my other choice apart from the 8), but even thats considered conservative. They could have easily made it even lower....smaller green house, more "swoops" etc....had one behind me yesterday...I really want one now.
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Originally posted by Werth_lots
I must say this is the best EXTERIOR looks a Mustang has ever had! But that interior has GOT TO GO! They better make some major changes to the interior for sure.
I must say this is the best EXTERIOR looks a Mustang has ever had! But that interior has GOT TO GO! They better make some major changes to the interior for sure.
Same way the new Pontiac GTO is getting rave reviews for performance and supposedly has a surprisingly good interior for a GM car. Still, if it had looked like a 1960something GTO, I think they would sell out in an eyeblink. Instead, the exterior is bland.
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Originally posted by FamilyGuy
I think the '67s and '68s looked better... I know many people disagree, but personally I would have preferred if they had copied the exterior styling of one of the late 1960s models exactly. Those were sweet looking cars.
I think the '67s and '68s looked better... I know many people disagree, but personally I would have preferred if they had copied the exterior styling of one of the late 1960s models exactly. Those were sweet looking cars.
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Re: Will the 05 Mustang Take my Glory!!!
Originally posted by DeNile'
[B] My question is do you all think the new Mustang will end the RX-8's reign at the top!
[B] My question is do you all think the new Mustang will end the RX-8's reign at the top!
Don't get me wrong - I think the 8 is a great looking car if a bit under powered but the top of what? The sports car class?
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Originally posted by DeNile'
Please stop the delusion!!! S2000, Lotus Elise, Z06, Viper, 911 Turbo, Z4, Boxer, NSX are all in that price range my friend.
S2000 never turned my head, that car is like a boxy lookin Miata, It sucks! Lotus Elise would turn heads just because its a lotus, the lines aren't better than the 8 and the interior definately isn't. The viper's interior sucks as well, but it will turn heads. And I hate the way the Z4 looks too, long @$$ hood. So that leaves the 911, Boxter, and NSX, I give you those.
I hate that S2000 though!!!
get a 8 then talk!!
Please stop the delusion!!! S2000, Lotus Elise, Z06, Viper, 911 Turbo, Z4, Boxer, NSX are all in that price range my friend.
S2000 never turned my head, that car is like a boxy lookin Miata, It sucks! Lotus Elise would turn heads just because its a lotus, the lines aren't better than the 8 and the interior definately isn't. The viper's interior sucks as well, but it will turn heads. And I hate the way the Z4 looks too, long @$$ hood. So that leaves the 911, Boxter, and NSX, I give you those.
I hate that S2000 though!!!
get a 8 then talk!!
It may not turn your head but everywhere my Berlina and I go we get heads to turn and interest raised...and the cars been on the market for 4 MYs now...
Appreciate your opinion just disagree with it and your hatred of the S2K is misplaced I believe
And here's a pic with my friend's Z roadster
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Originally posted by khoney
In San Antonio, I couldn't swing my dick in a parking lot without hitting a Mustang. I'm glad to have a car that turns heads (even mine, after 4 moths of ownership).
In San Antonio, I couldn't swing my dick in a parking lot without hitting a Mustang. I'm glad to have a car that turns heads (even mine, after 4 moths of ownership).
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Yup
I used to live in Corpus Christi, TX and still go there often to visit family... and Mustangs are absolutely everywhere!!!
Since I've moved out to CO, I don't see near as many... but when I do i still get really pissed off just cause of how many I've seen in Texas!
So, I'm pretty sure the point I was trying to make is that there's just alotta Mustangs in Texas... but I'm still not sure.
*Post ended for sake of further embarrasment*
Brit
Since I've moved out to CO, I don't see near as many... but when I do i still get really pissed off just cause of how many I've seen in Texas!
So, I'm pretty sure the point I was trying to make is that there's just alotta Mustangs in Texas... but I'm still not sure.
*Post ended for sake of further embarrasment*
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Mustang will never be a two seater.
The car wont look anything close to the design study.
It will smoke the RX-8 in GT trim and cost less to boot.
Handling has never been a Mustang strong point but the Cobra does have IRS but its built around the same mouting points as the GT so your kind of limited. Word is the new GT wont get IRS.
The car wont look anything close to the design study.
It will smoke the RX-8 in GT trim and cost less to boot.
Handling has never been a Mustang strong point but the Cobra does have IRS but its built around the same mouting points as the GT so your kind of limited. Word is the new GT wont get IRS.
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Your correct the GT won't get the IRS which I'm kinda disappointed in a way. But anways here are some new pics of the 2005 in GT trim and the interior.
or at least the link
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index....opic=1787&st=0
or at least the link
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index....opic=1787&st=0
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Well, now that I have seen pictures of the production version of the new Mustang's interior, I've just gotta say...
BLLLLEEEEAAACH!!!! YUCK!!!
What a crappy looking, plasticky, CHEAP looking interior! WHAT was Ford thinking?!? I am so glad I didn't wait for this car.
Still love the exterior tho, at least from the front and side. The back leaves a lot to be desired.
BLLLLEEEEAAACH!!!! YUCK!!!
What a crappy looking, plasticky, CHEAP looking interior! WHAT was Ford thinking?!? I am so glad I didn't wait for this car.
Still love the exterior tho, at least from the front and side. The back leaves a lot to be desired.
