whats your oppinion of Honda?
 

I noticed some of you guys have anti honda avatars and seem to really dislike honda. Im just wondering why that is?
No one in my family have ever owned a honda, but it seems they are extremely reliable and efficient. I think they make the best 4 cylinder engines in the world. The NSX R is the fastest JDM car and corners better than even the s2000. Now that they are making a V10 and V8 Im intrigued at what they will be able to do with those.
Im just wondering what you guys think of honda, and for those that really dislike honda, why?

Honda is one of THE BEST car manufacturers in the world. they only reason why people "hate" on honda is b/c of what people make of them. they turn an econo box (civic, accord, etc.) and slap on all these cheap "go-fast" parts. very untasteful...in other words, RICE. don't get me wrong, there are plenty of fast worth civics, integras, etc. companies like Spoon and Jun have done amazing things with hondas. honda also does well in F1 and Super Bike grand prix. they make some pretty good lawn mowers too!! honda was the first to put variable valve timing onto the market...VTEC. Honda is awesome.

Honda is a good company, great realiability and everything. But again, they do stupid stuff to their honda's. I like the s2k, i like the nsx, and i like the type r civic and integra but for me, my preference is that they are too common for me and i would prefer to get something that people dont really have but a honda is a good family car. But its not my taste.

Honda spelled backwards spells

ad no h

In otherwords, adds no horsepower ...


Seriously though, I had a civic which I did not rice and ABSOLUTELY loved. Only the RX8 has gotten closer to my heart...

its not the honda's temselves, its the stuck up poeple who make them RICE and think they are soo fast. hondas are good reliable cars, dont get me wrong. just not "race cars". well except for the s2k and nsx.....

It isn't their cars, which are awesome. It's the fanboys--the dumbasses with poorly-done cosmetic "improvements" on their economy Hondas, and their delusions of living life a quarter mile at a time when in reality their cars are bone stock and they couldn't change their sparkplugs if their lives depended on it.

They make excellant motorcycles.

well some have there own type of hate for the H.
I have always been a rotor head and so rotor VS piston has been with me since I was young.Mostly from when I was younger and would street race.
but now drive a civic and have owned several 11-12sec crx,integra's.and all very reliable
my last crx made 250@ the wheels NA.
B20/B16 100shot :)

i too own a crx as my daily driver. It's very efficient on gas and is very cheap to maintain. The crx takes the daily beating while the 8 sleeps in the garage

Honda makes the most reliable piles of boredom on the planet, but all of the sports cars they make are either too small for me to fit in (S2000) or too expensive for me to afford (NSX). That leaves only torqueless FWD econoboxes. The engines may rev well and have a huge aftermarket, but if you've ever experienced 300fwhp you'de understand why it's an exercise in futility.

My daily driver is a 2000 Civic. It's been a great car. So far it's got 125,000 miles on it. Everything has been great. It'll probably go another 125,000 with no problems. It may be fairly slow but at 32/38 mpg I'm not going to argue with it.

FWIW: I flooded it this week! Don't think it's only a rotary thing.

If the Honda is built in a japanese factory i would buy one no problemo but i have read that the next honda civic for the Australian market is being built in Thailand :eek: i would not touch it they couldnt put together a lego set let alone a car :mad:


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michael

LMAO! On an unrelated note I read recently that Hyundai (or was it Kia) paid the Chinese government millions to setup a factory over there for one of their cars to be built. I guess they're willing to let the quality slide since they're probably only paying those Chinese workers the equivalent of $5 USD per day.

Great dumbass post. Thailand make some of the most reliable cars in the world for the most popular car company in the world, Toyota. All their taxis are Corollas driving in 40 degree heat every day.

Do some research before making outright claims like that.

On a side note, Honda also has a factory in Shenzen China. Doesn't mean the quality is any less.

Life is about choices and i wouldnt buy a car thats been put together in any of those countries :eek:

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michael

The RX-8 is the only non-Honda product I've owned since 1991. In 14 years I've never been stranded.

Properly maintained, they just start, every time.

They pioneered variable valve timing, which is now used by almost every manufacturer. Back in the early 90s, 190+ HP from a NA 4 cylinder was unheard of, as was 250+ from a NA V6... unless it was from Honda.

The 86 CRX HF got what, 50 MPG? And that was in 1986.

The designs are bland, with few exceptions, but they sell LOTS of cars.

Great quality, great technology, and a well-run business as well, in my opinion.

My opinion on Honda is that it's affordable, reliable & easy to maintain. Nothing wrong with their cars in my opinion. I thought about getting the S2000 too but decided that the 8 is better for me & since I know a bunch of people that have them already.

I don't know what other people's problem is with Honda.

I think Honda is great! ALL their cars are fantastick in their respective categories.

The only Honda I'm not quite feeling is the NSX... dont get me wrong, its nice but @ 142K I am NOT feeling it

hondas are great.
my current daily is an EK sedan, does the job, park it anywhere.
hondas have strong gearbox (hint hint mr. mazda) and reliable engines.
each car manufacturer have their own quality control, even if they have off-shore plants.
how many ppl have you heard having problems with their jap built cars.....
alot of european cars are now built by other countries :rolleyes:
anyway, i like hondas as much as i like other brands, inc. mazda

It really doesn't matter where cars are made, it's the quality control system put in place by the company that matters. Honda has been making accords here in the states for years, yet they maintain just as high quality standards as those made in japan. Suzuki makes horrible quality cars and they are built in japan. American cars made over seas have the same quality as those made here, which could be a good or bad thing...

i have owned 3 honda civics, one of which i bought off of a friend, all of them got better than 30 mpg, and thats with all the bolt ons. i beat the piss out of them, and they never let me down. dont get me wrong, i absolutely love my 8, and will continue to love it for years to come. if i ever get around to getting a beater, it will be a honda.

keep in mind, that honda knows engines, they are the worlds largest manufactured of gasoline engines. period.

My last car was an Acura Integra. Great car, never had any problems during the four and half years I owned it. My wife has a Honda Element. She loves it. We've hauled all sorts of stuff in it for our many home improvement projects. Never had a problem.

My father also has a Honda Element. His is a 2003 which is the first model year. He's put nearly 120,000 miles on his car in almost three years and it runs as good as the day he bought it. He also has a 1969 Honda CB 750 motorcycle that he bought brand new. Thirty-six years later it still starts and rides like it did when he bought it.

Say what you will about Hondas; they make good products. Some people "rice" theirs out and that's ok for them. Not my place to tell them what to do with their cars no matter how stupid I think they look. ;) :p :D

My gripe with Honda is that they make the most boring cars in the entire galaxy. They have FWD syndrome. If they added some V6 and V8 (No less than 270hp) RWD coupe/sedans to their line-up then that would be a plus. The second thing they need to do is be bold and agressive with their design. Their cars are nothing but visual sleeping pills.

the NSX is aluminum...and it's hand made. it's considered an exotic. i've driven my friend's NSX, not as fast as i thought it would be, but it's definately a sports car. the handling, sex-appeal, and honda reliability makes it one of the best cars, IMO.

simplicity is a beautiful thing :D

Great cars> The S2000 is a ball to drive. I'll take my Rx-8 though-just love it.

I owned nothing but Hondas for years. Great cars and I am really liking the new Civic. No matter what people say its hard to knock Honda's success with the Civic platform. Smart manufacturer.

I have owned both RX-8 and S2000, great machines, but my S2000 gets 25MPG and has not had any recalls. The RX-8 sounds better and is smoother.
The S2000 handles like a go-cart but lacks stability control and traction control.
The RX-8 has much more room and rides better.
The S2000 has better fit and finish.
The RX-8 has better gadgets.
The S2000 has better A/C, much better.
The RX-8 has a better stereo but both suck.
The S2000 has much better HID headlights, that look more blue.
The RX-8 has more airbags.
They both put a smile on your face.

It is too close to compare them until it comes time to put the top down.

I could go on forever

The S2000 is built in the same plant as the NSX, the only 2 that are.

My hate for Honda? I wish my experience was like everyone else who has posted, but it hasn't been. Owned two Hondas... '89 Prelude Si and '93 Ascot (JDM). The Prelude was an amazing POS and it was never modded or beaten. Go figure. The car went through 3 timing belts in about 140,000 or so miles. Two of them broke thus stranding me and costing all kinds of wonderful money to replace bent valves and remachine the heads. The clutch slave cylinder went out on the car twice (thus stranded again) too. Non-technical.. the spoiler (?!) got ripped off and stolen... hail storms... side swipped and finally it was totalled after an SUV ran a stop sign (but at least it still ran). Just couldn't win with that car.

The Ascot... that lovely twin carb 1.8L engine. I bought it used in '99 for about $3,600 and put practically no money in the car. I changed the oil and did what it needed to pass inspection. That car wasn't so exciting to drive, and power... what power?! ... but it did get amazing gas mileage which I saw on monthly trips between Northern Japan and Tokyo.

The only other Honda experience I've had is with a rental Civic last year. Not bad at all for Honda's economy car and a rental at that.

Unfortunately... the Prelude scarred me badly and there are absolutely no aftermarket parts for the Ascot (probably because it's a low class Accord). Add in HOnda's boring ass designs or WTF designs (the upcoming Civic Si, paricularly the interior) and the fact that Honda just can't seem to get past FWD cars... even for Acura! That market is ALL RWD or AWD, but their damn cars are FWD?! Come on...

Why don't I like Honda? A really bad experience combined with them not making a single car I would consider buying (including the NSX and S2000).

Manufacturing in China... according to the latest articles I've read the quality is improving, but is not good enough for worldwide export yet. The majority of manufacturers are shipping the parts in from Japan, etc. and only assemblying the cars in China for Chinese market consumption. However, one or two manufacturers (Toyota is one I believe) is looking to begin exporting the cars to SE Asia.

BTW... I do love Honda motorcycles. As this is their roots... this is something that Honda does right... Toyota/Lexus right. JDM... everyone says Honda makes the best quality and reliable bikes. Yamaha is highly regarded as well.

Honda does make a great car, some of the new Honda designs suck however.

Hondas are very easy and reasonably fun to drive, but unexciting. I have a Civic which is very reliable and economical. It's just not a sexy car.

the fact honda is so popular and there are so many aftermarket parts available. Rice or not is just personal choice.

There are many option for NA setup... not to mentioned the FI.

Honda and Mazda ...........apples and oranges

I believe the Insight is also built at the same plant.

I stand corrected....

I have NO hate for any cars or car company...only "at the moment" preferences.

I think Honda is a great company that builds great cars. Some people will hate on them but honestly they pretty much build the best cars on the road (along with Toyota). They routinely pull alot of HP out of their smaller engines (smaller than the competition that is).

I like Honda but I don't like their style...it's just plane unorganized. Parts of the cars look good but parts of it looks bad (just look at what they did to the “cool” concept Civic, the final rendition really stinks). It's like they have a cool designer working with a bunch of blind accountants.

The S2000 is pretty nice, the past Civics have been nice, and their NSX has always been sweet!