What features would you like in your brand new RX-7
Pretty self explanatory. List the options you'd like to see/don't see on the 2017 model.
Do: -shift lights on steering wheel like F1 cars and Ferrari's. -a DRS system (drag reduction system) again like F1 cars. -option between manual and DSG gearbox. -launch control. Don't: -hybrid power like the new NSX but if they do add it, add KERS. -no stupid smiley front end like the S2. |
Super easy, sadly it will never happen in this day and age.
- lightweight like the old FC's and FD's like sub 2800 lbs. - 300+ HP - no electronic nannies a pure drivers car - Manual transmission - 2+2 for insurance reasons and convenience (since it is already made in Japan anyway) - Battery located in the rear of the car - ability to run wider tires without rubbing - good brakes (4 piston or better) with good ducting - no sunroof and room for a driver + helmet on - tall 6th gear for better highway economy when cruising at 80 MPH. |
All I want are the basics...heat, a/c, radio, MP3 jack. It can have roll up windows for all I care. In the spirit of a true drivers car, do anything to keep weight and cost down. No moonroof, heated seats, heated mirrors, nav, etc.
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I'm not going to be exactly realistic but here goes:
- 50/50 weight distribution - big/long wheel wells for more wheel/tire - 3000lbs or under - 350+HP - 2+2 - OEM BBK (Brembo like EVO's etc.) F/R - Turbo from factory Like old FD's/Turbo FC's - DSG/with 6 speed manual would be neat. - OEM Lip kit option - 1.5way/2way diff option - Factory Recaro's like the R3 - Full size spare - If possible 3 rotor 16x (@_@) (don't flame just dreaming.) |
- hella flush wheels
- telescopic steering wheel - single din stereo with an options/space for doubledin upgrade - spare tire (not an option) - seperate oil tank for seals lubrication I dont want any fish on my taillights..lol.. |
I want it to have:
a rotary engine steering wheel throttle, clutch, and brake pedals windows that roll up and down using buttons real back seats, not just luggage carriers, or no back seats at all limited slip rear diff cruise control ABS radio for cross country trips Anything else is just extra. If you want to make it a true mid or rear engine car, fine by me. That would be interesting to have Mazda market a sports car with that type of engine layout for once. Here's a wild question - Would a 3 or 4 rotor engine that was limited to lower rpms than a 2 rotor engine (say 6500 or 7k) still make decent hp, while making way more torque, and lower emissions, with their new 16x direct injection setup? I'll take one of those in a factory offered kit, thank you very much. BC. |
But all the fun is in those last 2500 rpm. If it's capable of running that high why not let it? Carbon buildup might become a problem again. I redline the crap out of my car and she just asks for more. I wouldn't want to lose that in the 7. Id like it to rev atleast as high as now. 10k would be cool though :D
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2 seats
1190kg or less. Non-power everything (roll up windows etc are fine, less stuff to remove) Easy accessibility to the engine bay components DSG is fine, as long as it has 7 gears (6 shorts ones, a long 7th for mileage purposes only) Some level of under car aero and no lame wings. More exige, less evora to say it better. a ClubSport version that comes with a road legal cage for the euro market would help the track crowd accept it as a track toy. |
Originally Posted by Jims5543
(Post 4379879)
Super easy, sadly it will never happen in this day and age.
- lightweight like the old FC's and FD's like sub 2800 lbs. - 300+ HP - no electronic nannies a pure drivers car - Manual transmission - 2+2 for insurance reasons and convenience (since it is already made in Japan anyway) - Battery located in the rear of the car - ability to run wider tires without rubbing - good brakes (4 piston or better) with good ducting - no sunroof and room for a driver + helmet on - tall 6th gear for better highway economy when cruising at 80 MPH.
Originally Posted by 77mjd
(Post 4379890)
All I want are the basics...heat, a/c, radio, MP3 jack. It can have roll up windows for all I care. In the spirit of a true drivers car, do anything to keep weight and cost down. No moonroof, heated seats, heated mirrors, nav, etc.
I would add: Bluetooth Speaker Phone and an integrated roll hoop. |
I'll make my requests/suggestions real and practical:
1/ ENGINE: A light weight more efficient, properly tested NA rotary making close to 300 hp and close to 200 lb/ft torque. Definitely need a separate oil metering tank with a level sensor. 2/ FUEL EFFICIENCY: 30 mpg hwy 3/ BODY DESIGN: As sexy as possible hatchback 2 door body, obviously with Kodo themed style. 2600 base weight. 4/ INTERIOR: Modern yet simple high quality interior with soft plastics and nothing rattling (Some FDs). I need the tachometer to be the central large focus as usual. Seats should be slimmer and much lighter weight than RX-8, yet strong and durable. Mazda has not had the best seats that they could do in their segments throughout the years. I want 0 rotor symbols in the interior unless it is an extremely well done 50th anniversary badge (Definitely no headrest rotors). 5/ TRANSMISSIONS: 6 Speed manual Skyactiv gearbox. Has to be easy to use with short clean direct feel shifts. 6 speed Skyactiv Auto with paddle shifting and optimized rev matched downshifts. 6/ WHEELS: Start with 16s and go up to 18s like the RX-8 had. Lighter than the 23 lbs 18s on the 8 is essential. I think 3 wheel sizes, 16,17,18. 7/ SUSPENSION: ALUMINUM everywhere and multilink stuff if they want. We do not want McPherson strut on the front, thank you. I trust them to figure out the right suspension solutions. 8/ EXHAUST: Straight and simple. Maybe exiting in the center. That's my quick list. Paul. |
How about an engine that perform but also on average can make it to 100,000 miles without losing compression. That is what I want in the next rotary.
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It'll never happen but maybe a three seat layout like the mclaren F1.
A display like the lexus LFA and lambo aventador. With a few different layout |
Originally Posted by blazenblue63
(Post 4380036)
It'll never happen but maybe a three seat layout like the mclaren F1.
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23 MPG City/ 30 MPG Highway
2800 lbs. 7 Speed Manual transmission (7th gear overdrive) 350 NA HP (450 HP Factory Turbo option) 2+2 (like the 8) Standard 18" x 10" wheels with appropriate rubber. 4 piston Brakes Lower standard ride (or even better stock adjustable suspension) Separate oil for lubrication of apex seals or better yet seals that don't need lubrication (since we're wishing) Price tag under $50K, (better yet, under $40K, but that ain't gonna happen). |
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 4380042)
I was thinking about that. But, it could only happen in a rear mid-engined car due to the requirements for a transmission hump and drive shaft.
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3rd seat like kabura.
trauma-free engine. |
a 12a and a sidedraft carb.
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Peripheral exhaust ports? :)
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NOS......lol
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 4380240)
Peripheral exhaust ports? :)
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Originally Posted by speedracer2169
(Post 4380243)
NOS......lol
This! lol |
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4380035)
How about an engine that perform but also on average can make it to 100,000 miles without losing compression. That is what I want in the next rotary.
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Parkbench spoiler
Neons stickers air-bags psssssh psssssssh hopity hop racing stripes tin can exhaust matt black paint |
Only have 1 modest request....that I fit in it.....
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$65,000 or less price tag
I would think that with a $35k price for the 8 the below listed is not much more to ask -NO Turbo, no hybrid! Please! Although open to alternative fuel solutions (E-85) -Rx8 body style like, Miata size, FD width -2+2 true 2 door hatchback like the FD (jdm had rear seats? optional?) -3 rotor N/A sat back and low like PAN SPEED & GARAGE REVOLUTION or 16X capable of minimum 300 HP/220 tq -Forged lightweight 1 piece wheels -True BBK (all 4) -HUD, Individual TPMS, Gauges for everything possible, psi, temp, safety warning/ automatic shut off. -Manual Transmission (capable of handling FI) -Max Cooling: Ducts, Vents, Large Dual pass Rad, High capacity oil pan, large Dual oil coolers, Tranny cooler, -Low body weight, PAINTED carbon roof, carbon hatch, carbon hood, carbon seats. Aluminum or carbon wherever possible to reduce weight. |
E-85 ???? 2 or 3 rotor Turbo? I know I've seen a couple of Turbo'd FD and FC running E85 in the 500HP range. (wiki)
E85 has a number of advantages over conventional gasoline. One advantage is a reduction in tailpipe emissions. [1] Another advantage is a high effective octane rating, reducing engine heat and wear, and increasing performance. Because the ethanol component effectively displaces fossil fuels with energy harvested from renewable sources, in theory E85 is less carbon intensive than petroleum. Alcohol fuels reach their peak torque a bit more quickly than gasoline does, so any vehicle that receives a very basic conversion to be able to run on E85 will be very slightly faster on E85. As more effort is put into maximizing an engine to take advantage of E85's higher "octane, engines achieve greater power advantages. One car that has higher power on ethanol is the Koenigsegg CCXR, which on ethanol is the third-most powerful production car, with 20% more hp on E85 than on gasoline. According to the manufacturer, this is due to the cooling properties of ethanol.E85 has an octane rating higher than that of regular gasoline's typical rating of 87, or premium gasoline's 91-93. Because of the lower heating value E85 has a cooler intake charge—which, coupled with its high stability level from its high octane rating—has also been used as a "power adder" in turbocharged performance vehicles. These modifications have not only resulted in lower GHG emissions, but also resulted in 10-12% power and torque increase at the wheels. Because of its low price (less than $2.00/gal in some places) and high availability in certain areas people have started to turn to using it in place of high-end racing fuels, which typically cost over $10.00/gal. |
* Roadster and it is able to be cheap :) and everbody will buy !
* 1000-1200 kg's enough * 300 hp na rotary with range extender * Maybe engine in the front range extender in the back with everybody see like exotics and give them product numbers on range extenders :) to be unique ! * Put it on a fuel comsumption gauge :) to see mileage ! * Create the shape of the furai ! it is looking like to be Zonda's maybe roadster version looks like Zonda S 7.3 http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7...adsters128.jpg http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9...ncept20082.jpg http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8173/mazdarx92.jpg |
^Yes, without that little window....and make it Red, Jet Black, and Silver.
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If you think about it, Speed Source was selling their 3 rotor cars for $60,000k correct? With extras! And those things are nuts. If they can give that away for that price, make something similar production wise.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000.... See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters. |
Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
(Post 4380433)
If you think about it, Speed Source was selling their 3 rotor cars for $60,000k correct? With extras! And those things are nuts. If they can give that away for that price, make something similar production wise.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000.... See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters. You have absolutely no idea of what it takes to design a production car that has to fulfill several needs and meet many safety requirements. |
At $50K + (which I don't mind paying)
I want a Lotus Exige with a Wankel :worship: That's the easiest way to sum up the list of features I want on my car. |
Bse50- I know, that's why I said "Gave it away". :)
I might have no idea but I do know what I want (already listed) and what I'm willing to openly pay ($60k) ...of course if they bring more than expected to the table...what's from stretching another Nickel :bigok: |
^^^ so willing to pay $60K for no AC, horrible ride for public streets, no working windows, and no interior? hmmm
I think at $50-60K mazda could produce a Cayman S competitor maybe even Cayman R? And I would gladly but that with Mazda's new styling. |
I think most of these people, that are asking for a $45-60K car, are thinking they can pick one up in 3 years on the used car market for half that price. Well, if Mazda can't sell'em new, they aren't gonna be there used.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4380035)
How about an engine that perform but also on average can make it to 100,000 miles without losing compression. That is what I want in the next rotary.
And I still can't understand how some people keep talking about a 'stripped down' interior. So are we expecting Mazda to sell the new RX-7 with a stripped down interior, a roll care and free racing helmet? :Wconfused Very few people in their right minds would buy a brand new sports that at least doesn't have a decent radio and a couple of fancy lights inside. |
Originally Posted by Mazmart
(Post 4380033)
I'll make my requests/suggestions real and practical:
1/ ENGINE: A light weight more efficient, properly tested NA rotary making close to 300 hp and close to 200 lb/ft torque. Definitely need a separate oil metering tank with a level sensor. 2/ FUEL EFFICIENCY: 30 mpg hwy 3/ BODY DESIGN: As sexy as possible hatchback 2 door body, obviously with Kodo themed style. 2600 base weight. 4/ INTERIOR: Modern yet simple high quality interior with soft plastics and nothing rattling (Some FDs). I need the tachometer to be the central large focus as usual. Seats should be slimmer and much lighter weight than RX-8, yet strong and durable. Mazda has not had the best seats that they could do in their segments throughout the years. I want 0 rotor symbols in the interior unless it is an extremely well done 50th anniversary badge (Definitely no headrest rotors). 5/ TRANSMISSIONS: 6 Speed manual Skyactiv gearbox. Has to be easy to use with short clean direct feel shifts. 6 speed Skyactiv Auto with paddle shifting and optimized rev matched downshifts. 6/ WHEELS: Start with 16s and go up to 18s like the RX-8 had. Lighter than the 23 lbs 18s on the 8 is essential. I think 3 wheel sizes, 16,17,18. 7/ SUSPENSION: ALUMINUM everywhere and multilink stuff if they want. We do not want McPherson strut on the front, thank you. I trust them to figure out the right suspension solutions. 8/ EXHAUST: Straight and simple. Maybe exiting in the center. That's my quick list. Paul. -It will lack complexity - it will not be another FD -It will brake better then just about anything but a race car -It will be well balanced, and will rocket through a slalom - very tossable -The driver will feel connected with the road as compared to anything else in the market segment -Mazda is saying "up to 300 hp" - that means it will be 285-290 bhp, that will equate to a little less than 200 tq -It will be available in yellow, but only for 1 year -It will not be a drag car -The tach will be front and center -The suspension will be fully adjustable -It will be light as compared to the market segment -It will not have a 700 tq rated drivetrain like a Toyota -There will be a R1/GTUs type option -The cooling system will be far from perfect for hot weather or track days |
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 4380575)
I think most of these people, that are asking for a $45-60K car, are thinking they can pick one up in 3 years on the used car market for half that price. Well, if Mazda can't sell'em new, they aren't gonna be there used.
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I just want a 2 door, something that handles and brakes like the RX-8.....sub 3K lbs and has a gas tank that will not starve below a 1/4 tank at the track :)
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Originally Posted by RXeligion
(Post 4380439)
At $50K + (which I don't mind paying)
I want a Lotus Exige with a Wankel :worship: That's the easiest way to sum up the list of features I want on my car. |
Originally Posted by alnielsen
(Post 4380575)
I think most of these people, that are asking for a $45-60K car, are thinking they can pick one up in 3 years on the used car market for half that price. Well, if Mazda can't sell'em new, they aren't gonna be there used.
But, as what always happens, when a new car is launched, the dealership's will attach bs market adjustment and exotic car fees to it, so even if it is a $40k car, the first several months of buyers will be paying a premium for it. Anyway, it's going to be a while before the first bumper molds are built, and who knows what's going to happen to Mazda in these coming years, not to mention our lives themselves. BC. |
Originally Posted by Rotr8
(Post 4380548)
^^^ so willing to pay $60K for no AC, horrible ride for public streets, no working windows, and no interior? hmmm
Originally Posted by tza0001
(Post 4380652)
+1! Also being able to get in and out:)
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I would be happy with a reinvented FD with a reliable 16X non turbo weighing in around 2600 lbs. Sell one version with features comparable to the sport rx-8.
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
(Post 4380425)
E-85 ???? 2 or 3 rotor Turbo? I know I've seen a couple of Turbo'd FD and FC running E85 in the 500HP range.
I really only see E85 as a viable fuel for (production) sports cars if it's intended for a very low volume production run or added to vehicles after the fact. |
A new rotary car being planned the day this one hits the ground so we don't have to wait 5 years.
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I trust that mazda will pull it off
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Ok why not:
1==it will not happen--but drivers seat in the center 2- 8 speed dual clutch transmission ( a good one) 3- better ignition system 4- better cooling ( coolant and oil) systems--aux electric water pump 5- 2+2 config 6- wgt as mentioned 7- good visibility 8- better audio and rear view mirror 9-real gauges 10 central tach with digital speedometer 11- a 10 sec 0-100 mph performance level. 12--comes with great tires. 13- easy access oil filter/engine etc. 14- easy access to sparkplugs--or laser sparkplugs:) to tell you the truth if they would drop a small 3 rotor into the R3 ( get it?), for me it would be perfect and I would pay in the low 40's for it. |
To sum up everything I want with the new RX7, besides all the upgrades of the suspension, exhaust and more power at the same time more fuel efficient:
AUXILIARY for your iphone/android/Galaxy!!! |
It will probably compete with the Nissan GTR so it will need to match performance. However, it can be done by the renowned low weight and brillaint dynamics of the RX platform
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Originally Posted by skc
(Post 4381451)
It will probably compete with the Nissan GTR so it will need to match performance. However, it can be done by the renowned low weight and brillaint dynamics of the RX platform
something on par with this is what I have in mind for the next RX-car: |
sweet!
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