VW Drops Diesels in USA.
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Interesting AN are saying Mercedes Benz and 'other' car makers are having trouble with new Diesel certification in USA?
I guess Mazda has already been given the green light?.
IF they have Urea exhaust treatment (which the rest of SA-D world does not) I would not buy one in a fit, I would not buy one anyway....great torque etc, but really maintenance is a PITA, like all diesels.
Reliability not much better than a RE ....oops.
I guess Mazda has already been given the green light?.
IF they have Urea exhaust treatment (which the rest of SA-D world does not) I would not buy one in a fit, I would not buy one anyway....great torque etc, but really maintenance is a PITA, like all diesels.
Reliability not much better than a RE ....oops.
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I guess this shouldn't really be that surprising. They probably don't think they can get customer confidence back any time soon and by the time they do, their plug-in electric options will have had time to mature.
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The amount of vehicles available as diesels elsewhere in the world is staggering, but thanks to our idiotic restrictions it makes it so difficult and expensive to be competitive in the US. The biggest problem I see is that people view them as polluting more than a gas engine, the emissions are more visible yes, but are less harmful than a gas engine. The VW Rabbit diesel did years ago, what that pos Prius does now.
The maintenance on VW diesels is ridiculous...my truck not so much, I change the oil, the fuel filter, and clean the air filter. That is about it...but then again mine is an 04, but with 100K of towing :D However, the greater cost of certain components is sickening. When it comes time where I have to do a transmission rebuild (4000), fuel injectors (2800), and glow plugs (500)....my Duramax engine and Allison transmission are getting replaced with LQ4 and 4L80E.
The restrictions with the new diesels such as the "afterburner" in exhausts where you have to add a special fluid otherwise the truck shuts off or the EGR which recirculates soot ridden exhaust back through your engine, coolers (think 6.0), and worst of all through the turbo...yeah high speed precision bearings love soot.
Plus the whole byproduct of refining gasoline thing.
However, the myth that diesels last longer, more reliable (however you put it) than a gas engine, really isn't true. I don't think it isn't a simpler design, or lack of ignition system, it really is just a comparable diesel will rotate less over the same time period and usage of a comparable gas motor
The maintenance on VW diesels is ridiculous...my truck not so much, I change the oil, the fuel filter, and clean the air filter. That is about it...but then again mine is an 04, but with 100K of towing :D However, the greater cost of certain components is sickening. When it comes time where I have to do a transmission rebuild (4000), fuel injectors (2800), and glow plugs (500)....my Duramax engine and Allison transmission are getting replaced with LQ4 and 4L80E.
The restrictions with the new diesels such as the "afterburner" in exhausts where you have to add a special fluid otherwise the truck shuts off or the EGR which recirculates soot ridden exhaust back through your engine, coolers (think 6.0), and worst of all through the turbo...yeah high speed precision bearings love soot.
Plus the whole byproduct of refining gasoline thing.
However, the myth that diesels last longer, more reliable (however you put it) than a gas engine, really isn't true. I don't think it isn't a simpler design, or lack of ignition system, it really is just a comparable diesel will rotate less over the same time period and usage of a comparable gas motor