Should I get an RX8 or wait for the 2005 Mustang GT?
09-13-2003, 03:58 AM
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I went to the NY auto show to see the RX8 and was floored by the new Mustang. First platform resdesign in alomost what... 20years? I thinlk it will be an exciting vehicle and will certianly be better than RX in straightline performance, and it's looks in person were excellent.
ANythng else is a guess. Also depends if you feel like waitinng.
I love the RX's handling, italian looks, convenience of a 4 door design (and I love the 2 tone interior.) I also like having a distinctive car that not as many people have - I love being the only in in Manhattan with it. Mustangs sell in boatloads, which to most people is an asset. I'm sure your RX8 would have better gas milage than mine, but that is a different story.
ANythng else is a guess. Also depends if you feel like waitinng.
I love the RX's handling, italian looks, convenience of a 4 door design (and I love the 2 tone interior.) I also like having a distinctive car that not as many people have - I love being the only in in Manhattan with it. Mustangs sell in boatloads, which to most people is an asset. I'm sure your RX8 would have better gas milage than mine, but that is a different story.
09-13-2003, 04:30 AM
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I love how the RX8 and the 05 Mustang concept looks but the only drawback I have for the mustang is it's interior. If Ford sticks with those interior of the concept, I wouldn't buy it...it's old looking :D The RX8 on the other hand have a terrific interior, it's so comfy...if only the RX8 have 260-300hp
09-13-2003, 04:40 AM
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you're right, being an 18 years old with the mustang concept interior doesnt look right. hehehe!
"If only the RX8 have 260-300hp"...well there are other positive aspects of the RX8. Just look around this forum.
If you can wait for the 05 Mustang, might as well wait for the 05 RX8...you'll never know what Mazda will do bout the missing power.
"If only the RX8 have 260-300hp"...well there are other positive aspects of the RX8. Just look around this forum.
If you can wait for the 05 Mustang, might as well wait for the 05 RX8...you'll never know what Mazda will do bout the missing power.
09-13-2003, 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by 04RX8or05Mustng
I love how the RX8 and the 05 Mustang concept looks but the only drawback I have for the mustang is it's interior. If Ford sticks with those interior of the concept, I wouldn't buy it...it's old looking :D The RX8 on the other hand have a terrific interior, it's so comfy...if only the RX8 have 260-300hp
I love how the RX8 and the 05 Mustang concept looks but the only drawback I have for the mustang is it's interior. If Ford sticks with those interior of the concept, I wouldn't buy it...it's old looking :D The RX8 on the other hand have a terrific interior, it's so comfy...if only the RX8 have 260-300hp
The interior will not look like that on the production model.
09-13-2003, 06:26 AM
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The production model will also still have solid rear suspension. Only the SVT Cobra will have Indepedent rear suspension.
Botom line on the cars though: If you want straitline speed then go with the mustang, but if you want a well engineereed, great handling car to Auto X or just through around in the twistes then go with the RX8.
Botom line on the cars though: If you want straitline speed then go with the mustang, but if you want a well engineereed, great handling car to Auto X or just through around in the twistes then go with the RX8.
09-13-2003, 07:16 AM
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if you can wait till '05, might want to consider the Lotus Elise. That car looks exotic and fast, 0-60 in 5.1 sec is what i heard.:D
Here's a quick look at the stat
http://www.criswellauto.com/index.cf...els&finish=yes
Here's a quick look at the stat
http://www.criswellauto.com/index.cf...els&finish=yes
09-13-2003, 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I think I just got called old, I love that interior...
The interior will not look like that on the production model.
I think I just got called old, I love that interior...
The interior will not look like that on the production model.
09-13-2003, 11:24 AM
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While I really do like the Elise, Lotus has never been known as a manufacturer that prizes build quality or reliability. Better be ready to only have the Elise as a part time driving machine.
New Mustang will be interesting. I saw the '05 Mustang at the Detroit Auto Show this past winter....the same time I saw the rX8 in person and fell in love with it.
I think it's a critical mistake on Ford's part not to offer the independent rear suspension. I also agree, that the interior in these pictures is not going to be the interior that makes it into production. Trith told, it will be an updated V8 muscle car, pure and simple. If I had wanted that, I would have bought a Cobra, which I could have gotten cheaper than the RX8 with all the discounting and rebate going around.
New Mustang will be interesting. I saw the '05 Mustang at the Detroit Auto Show this past winter....the same time I saw the rX8 in person and fell in love with it.
I think it's a critical mistake on Ford's part not to offer the independent rear suspension. I also agree, that the interior in these pictures is not going to be the interior that makes it into production. Trith told, it will be an updated V8 muscle car, pure and simple. If I had wanted that, I would have bought a Cobra, which I could have gotten cheaper than the RX8 with all the discounting and rebate going around.
09-13-2003, 11:40 AM
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Well, I wouldn't call Ford reliable either, but I know what you eman on your point Graphicguy.
I am not hugely into this retro look. If most of the buyers are in their 20s and 30s, why would you design the interior so 40-60 year olds would remember their youth???
I am not hugely into this retro look. If most of the buyers are in their 20s and 30s, why would you design the interior so 40-60 year olds would remember their youth???
09-13-2003, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by revhappy
Well, I wouldn't call Ford reliable either, but I know what you eman on your point Graphicguy.
I am not hugely into this retro look. If most of the buyers are in their 20s and 30s, why would you design the interior so 40-60 year olds would remember their youth???
Well, I wouldn't call Ford reliable either, but I know what you eman on your point Graphicguy.
I am not hugely into this retro look. If most of the buyers are in their 20s and 30s, why would you design the interior so 40-60 year olds would remember their youth???
You hit the nail right on the head!
09-13-2003, 01:38 PM
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I like the looks of that Lotus! That being said, I betcha it'll be very, very expensive to insure.
Not sure how the Mustang would rate. Lower or higher than the 8?
edit: i just checked out the Lotus again and noticed that the US will only be getting the 120 hp version. Maybe the insurance won't be as bad as I thought....
Not sure how the Mustang would rate. Lower or higher than the 8?
edit: i just checked out the Lotus again and noticed that the US will only be getting the 120 hp version. Maybe the insurance won't be as bad as I thought....
09-13-2003, 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by OmegaBob
I like the looks of that Lotus! That being said, I betcha it'll be very, very expensive to insure.
Not sure how the Mustang would rate. Lower or higher than the 8?
edit: i just checked out the Lotus again and noticed that the US will only be getting the 120 hp version. Maybe the insurance won't be as bad as I thought....
I like the looks of that Lotus! That being said, I betcha it'll be very, very expensive to insure.
Not sure how the Mustang would rate. Lower or higher than the 8?
edit: i just checked out the Lotus again and noticed that the US will only be getting the 120 hp version. Maybe the insurance won't be as bad as I thought....
Lotus is saying it will be under 2,000 lbs. The guys over at elisetalk.com are betting that it'll be around 1,900 lbs. Lotus is claiming a 0-60 time of 4.9 seconds or less. Not bad for a convertible that'll probobly get 30 or MPG that is focused primarily on handling!!!! :D
Now..if I can only get that promotion!!!! :p
09-13-2003, 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by revhappy
The US is getting a 190 HP 1.8 liter 4 cylinder with VVT-I (presumably a tweaked Celica GTS engine) and Toyota transmission (hopefully Lotus also tweak the ill-advised gear ratios found in the Celica GTS).
The US is getting a 190 HP 1.8 liter 4 cylinder with VVT-I (presumably a tweaked Celica GTS engine) and Toyota transmission (hopefully Lotus also tweak the ill-advised gear ratios found in the Celica GTS).
Hmmm. If it meets the specs that you mentioned, then it will be very expensive to insure. UGH.
btw - I wasn't aware that Toyota and Lotus were affiliated. Learn something new everyday.
09-13-2003, 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by OmegaBob
Kewl ! Thanks for the clarification. The Lotus link posted above mentions that it'll be 120 hp.
Hmmm. If it meets the specs that you mentioned, then it will be very expensive to insure. UGH.
btw - I wasn't aware that Toyota and Lotus were affiliated. Learn something new everyday.
Kewl ! Thanks for the clarification. The Lotus link posted above mentions that it'll be 120 hp.
Hmmm. If it meets the specs that you mentioned, then it will be very expensive to insure. UGH.
btw - I wasn't aware that Toyota and Lotus were affiliated. Learn something new everyday.
09-13-2003, 05:04 PM
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Omega... i have a 2001 mustang gt and the insurance rating on that car is much higher then my rx-8. I am not too sure about this but i think my insurance rating on my rx-8 is 18 while my mustang gt is 24.
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I am not hugely into this retro look. If most of the buyers are in their 20s and 30s, why would you design the interior so 40-60 year olds would remember their youth???
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Originally posted by pyrospawn
if you can wait till '05, might want to consider the Lotus Elise. That car looks exotic and fast, 0-60 in 5.1 sec is what i heard.:D
Here's a quick look at the stat
http://www.criswellauto.com/index.cf...els&finish=yes
if you can wait till '05, might want to consider the Lotus Elise. That car looks exotic and fast, 0-60 in 5.1 sec is what i heard.:D
Here's a quick look at the stat
http://www.criswellauto.com/index.cf...els&finish=yes
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Originally posted by mikeb
ford
fixed or repaired daily
The car looks cool but thats about it
ford
fixed or repaired daily
The car looks cool but thats about it
Yea, I've seen many mustangs (perhaps V6 models) that have stopped on the roads. And these were like this generation. Ford F series and ranger are very reliable though... :D