HtownRX8

Yeah I did... it seemed a little one sided towards the RX8 though... its still a tough call.

Lawerence

Yes that article was VERY one sided IMO

0-60 in 6.4 in wet weather, vs 6.4 in driy weather? that is total BS. I stopped reading right there


On topic, just imagine what car you would see yourself driving 4 years from now when its paid off (assuming you finance)...

HtownRX8

Being 19 I think I can see myself driving either car in 4 years, but as it stands right now, I am leaning more towards the RX8 for overall looks. Personally, I think the VW might have a slight advantage in several different areas(power, braking, awd, etc), but looks are a big deal. We'll see.

Gord96BRG

I wouldn't say one-sided, they just preferred the RX-8 over the Golf. That's the idea of a comparison - to identify the car they prefer!

Not BS. Many AWD cars actually record better acceleration times in wet conditions where they can generate a bit of wheelspin at the start. If it was a RWD car tested in the wet, then BS. For AWD - it might have actually been an advantage for the R32.

Regards,
Gordon

Lawerence

Wow, i need some of what your smoken' on, because you are tripping .

If you think any street car performs better in conditions with less traction (ie. WET) then you are a fool.

The few reports on vortex indicate that the car is anywhere from 13.8 -14.4 in the 1/4 mile. Oh yes, that was in the dry (lol). And that would put the 0-60 around in the 5s somewhere.

Gord96BRG

Ignorance really must be bliss! THINK about it, don't just mouth off because this possibility has never occurred to you. The truth shall set you free!

You've never thought that an AWD can have too much traction? Never seen them bog out of the hole because they can't generate any wheel spin? Based on available power, shape of torque curve, and traction available, there's many cases where being able to generate a bit of wheelspin will provide faster acceleration times. You can dismiss that idea out of hand (who's the fool?), or actually think about it and do some reading and learn something.

Good luck.

Regards,
Gordon

fluque

I agree, there's no secret that some wheel spin is good for greater acceleration. Try any kind of motorsport where a car accelerates from a stand still. Even traction control in F-1 cars allows for wheel spin at starts

Ike

I just don't quite get VW's thinking with the R32... It's a nice car, but who's going to buy it? Performance enthusiasts that value a nice interior over performance? VW tuner/enthusiasts, when most of them are into the turbos? AWD peformance cars fans, when the WRX/STi, and EVO are around? The only real reason I can think of to buy an R32 over the competition is you just have to have the aesthetics, AWD, and want some speed to go along with it. I don't think there are a whole lot of people out there that fit into that category.

tschangrx7

If I wanted a BMW 330xi at a $10-15K discount, I might get the R32.

Lawerence

Well you are correct that it needs to generate some wheelspin, but you are dead wrong about it being faster in the wet.

You can say whatever you want. But untill I see a stock WRX run faster than a 14.1, a stock evo run faster than a 13.4 and a stock STi run faster than 13.2 in the WET...you are wrong.

Lawerence

One more thing, most of these cars (EVO, STi, R32) HAVE enough power to spin thier wheels in dry weather.

ShapeGSX

No, more traction is always a good thing. Trust me.

KC_Prelude

Right now I think there is only 5,000 r32's being brought to the USA so I don't think they will have too much trouble getting rid of them. Who would buy it?

1. Yuppies that really want a BMW but can't afford it (prefer german to japanese).
2. VW enthusiasts that already had gti's.
3. People who are attracted to the balance that the RX-8 has (looks vs power vs practicality) but need a little more practicality or do not have a personality that fits the 8's styling.
4. People that like the 8 but want AWD
5. People that like the 8 but want torque instead of high revs.

My personal take on the car is that it is nice but overpriced. I saw it only at an autoshow and it was the only car that was locked and you were unable to sit in the interior. Its fast enough for what it is but it should be priced closer to $26,000. I could not pay 30k for a car that did not drop my jaw every time I saw it. Im not real keen on VW reliability and repair prices or service for that matter. Its probably not as much fun take through corners as the 8 and really what else matters?

Ike

1.) They will just buy an Audi.
2.) VR6 owners maybe, but most GTi owners like their turbos.
3.) It's got less room than the RX-8 for passengers, will be higher for insurance, and VW isn't exactly known for reliability.
4.) Most will buy an EVO, WRX, STi, A4, Legacy, TT, etc.
5.) See above

Don't get me wrong, I like this car, but I just see it as something people will testdrive and like but it will be an also ran on most peoples list.

KC_Prelude

What can I say, its a very niche market. Some people only buy VW's. It is the hottest hatch sold in the US right now. Im sure the r32 will go over well with the gay enthusiasts (im not joking) since the jetta, passat, and golf were all on the top ten cars driven by homosexual men. I would rather have an Evo, STI or an 8 myself. Now what I REALLY can't understand is who would buy the freakin turbo beetle. Talk about a NICHE market. The r32 stomps all over the beetle.

takahashi

VW R32 is heavy and understeer to much... better style in the RX-8 too