XDEEDUBBX

who cares...the 8 looks better..

ILOVERX8

2nd to that , it is not just how fast the car ran in a straight line

Overport

depends on the driver heavily....but i doubt a Type-S can beat a RX-8.....maybe next time i see one at a stop light....

Fishey

I dunno, Both my friends Rx8's (Manuals) hit 170RWHP (thats not 230hp) and only managed a 1/4mile of 15.1 @ 91 (Same time as my 944 on the same day)

DemonRX-8

I had an encounter with an RSX yesterday. I was cruising down 66 at 90 mph when I passed by him and took the next exit. I noticed when I passed him that it was an ordinary RSX (no S or R on it's badge). He didn't gun it and try to keep up or anything.

Anyway, I notice him pulling up behind me at the traffic light on the ramp but didn't think anything of it. So I took off at my usual brisk pace, not WOT or anything and revved to about 6.5k and I see him glued there on my back bumper! I look again when he gets in the left turn lane at the next stoplight - no type S or R. I'm sure he's going off to his message board with a kill story now . . . "I hung right on his bumper and could've taken him if I had another lane!" I'm thinking WTF? Go away, I wasn't trying to race you!

Overport

Let 'em race on a track and the 8 will BLOW it away.

Berni

I owned an Acura RSX Type-S for 16 months. Take off was terrible. torque steer annoyed me at start up and when turning. last august while driving from WA to MT i saw my first 8 at a mazda dealer. this was in Idaho. I was having a blast driving on the mountain roads whe i saw the 8 and dicided to take a closer look. As we all know it was fabulous in person. while checking it out the dealer came out and offered a test drive. No **** he let me drive it like i stole it. through the mountains I could not even get it to its limits. mostly because what i was doing in this 8 would have given me a big "game over" in my type S.

the rest of the trip home the acura felt so...frail...insecure..

anyway i am not "hating" on the acura, after all i bought it it the first place. the 8...my 8 (to me) just out classes, drive, and flat out performs better then my type-S. Real world driving..not no damn dreaming i was some fast and furious 0 to 60 king of the road (never my scene anyway)

My biggest greavance with my Type-S would have to be that it was FWD. i just don't like that style.

and don't even get me started about why i love my 8 that list is incredible ..i will post that list soon , however it does not belong here.

AltecLansing

im not sure if RSX type S is the same as Type R, but i know the Type R can be really fast on downhill racing and even on tracks. it really depends on how u are going to tune it. and yeah, FWD has its incarnate problem that can be hardly solved. i no what, the G35 drivers are keep laughing at those TL drivers for torque steering, that the TL drivers can not deny.

anyway, Ferrari's 550 is a FWD. :D

Smoker

no it isn't !!!

Its Ferrari's only FRONT ENGINE car. It is still RWD.

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lilbigman

a front wheel drive ferrari ---
bwahahahahahaha *crying* aaahhahahahahaha

ok im done -------no im not
bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaha

ok ok im really done---- nope
hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

Smoker

here's what I meant to post on that last reply.

lilbigman

bwhahahah
ok ok stop it Smoker
i cant take it bwhahahah ahahha
Now I got go the bathroom :D

AltecLansing

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRR,right:o :o :o :o :o
its front engine not FWD:D

geez!

kcruboy

Doug McGill...

Ur an idiot....Go to the track and lets see what you run stock....it seems many 8 drivers are having a hard time even getting mid 14's stock, more often they're closer to 15.0....as of now, times with mods are pathetic.

RSX's run around 15.1 stock (so it wouldn't get "blown" away by an 8) . Like I said earlier, with a few mods to both cars, the RSX will take out an 8 cleanly.

Again, the 8 may barely edge out an rsx from a dead stop, but from a roll you'd be like a fish out of water. With intake, ecu, and tires I ran 14.3 and 14.4's, and thats with crappy fwd launching. If we took off from 20, 40, 70mph I'd leave you squinting to see whether my car was a Type S or not.

RX8-TX

Although his position might have been a little pretentious...I think he was refering to a race-track like in an AutoX course (I am not sure)...in other words, no car would be shifting beyond 2nd gear (the 8 at least)

RX8Lover

Good talk - see you out there. :o

RXhusker

Now granted -- I don't have a stock 8 :D but with 4 people in my car last weekend I rather easily beat an RSX-S. After being even at the start the 8 easily pulled away through to the 3 to 4 gear shift. I launched at 2.5k with DSC in the one-click off position. Mr. RSX wouldn't pull next to me at the next light -- don't think he was up for a rematch.

Ike

Bastard, you stole my giant eyeroll! :p

Lawerence

RXhusker sounds like the guy you raced couldn't drive to save his life.
Especially if you launched at 2.5K and were ahead of him.

Im going to be honest, and I'll probably get flamed.

I was never that impressed with the RX8s acceleration in the first place. Yea its not slow, but most ppl can only manage low 15s in the 1/4 mile which is what an RSX pulls.

Throw Hondata and an intake on an RSX, then throw Canzoomers on an RX8 and they will still be about equal.


And with these cars (especially the RX8) I dont think you can take the stated HP and figure out the hp/lb. I would take the WHP as that is alot more accurate (especially for the 8).

So RSX-S curb weight 2767/ 165WHP (normally 165-170, i'll take the low end)= 16.76 lb/hp

The RX8s curb weight 3,029/ 180whp (normally 170-185 and im taking more towards the high end)= 16.82lb/HP

Wow thats damn close...closer than I thought. So you see why people are saying it all depends on the driver.

Lawerence

Just for ***** n giggles....

Here is a dyno of an RSX-S with intake/hondata #4 and hondata IMG (total is around $800 USD)


(This dyno is a little high, normally with those mods they dyno around 190-195whp)

And here is a dyno of canzoomer stage1 (cost $600 USD).


So you take the same wieghts from before
RSX 2767/190WHP (just because that dyno is high)= 14.56lb/HP
RX8 3029/200whp (im a nice guy what can I say?)= 15.14lb/HP

So the RSX-S has a slight advantage there too.
From a rolling race both stock, I say they are equal.
With the mods listed above i give the very very slight nod to the RSX-S..

Now before you guys go banning me let me say I honestly dont think that anyone bought thier RX8 to drag race (same goes for the TypeS), and the 8 is better in many other ways.

Broker73

ok, this is one I have to comment on. I went out with Maurice & Cam on Monday night to test the new map for my car. We did some runs with my mod turned off, to compare against it stock. We found a stretch of road to do some good runs side by side. From a start, through first and second he pulled away easily, then as soon as we both went into 3rd gear, he pulled hard and was about 4-5car lengths before I gave up.

The power on the new map is soooo smooth, we turned it off so we could actually do a side by side comparison to see the difference.

Yesterday coming home from some running around, a young guy in a modded out Talon Turbo wanted to race from a light. The next light we came up to, the road was clear as we were in the west end of town. We took off, and I slightly pulled away in first and second, and in third gear I noticed he was a car length or so behind me before I back off to slow down.

He wanted to see the car, so next light he rolled down his window to chat. I asked him what mods he had done, and he mentioned Intake and exhaust, and something else?? but I couldn't hear him.

So with the mod, the 8 is nice and quick, and I beg to differ about the RSX being able to keep up in the 1/4.

Oh and yes I had the mod turned on here.

Lawerence

You beg to differ, but I just showed you some cold hard #s.
So show me some?

I can also show you plenty of 15 seccond timeslips for the RX8 (I havent seen ONE SINGLE 14 seccond slip of a stock RX8) and Gtech is NOT a timeslip thank you.

On ther otherhand, I could show you plenty of 15 and high 14 seccond slips for a stock RSX-S. in fact I can show you slips where people have run 14.3 with just an intake.

So beg to differ all you want, but untill you get some #s to prove me wrong...

Broker73

would love to see a 14sec slip for a stock RSX. The lowest time I have seen in an Mag is 15.4 ( Car and Driver)


Judge Ito on here has got in the 14secs stock.

kcruboy

Broker 73....

Check out ww.clubrsx.com . There are quite a few people who have run high 14's STOCK. A few have run 14.7's stock. Of course this isn't everybody, but it does happen every once in a while (jsut liek judge ITO). As Lawrence pointed out, with intake and ecu, most are able to run mid - low 14's (I ran 14.3 with these mods). And I"m considered just a lightly modded rsx.

Not many 8's can brag of running times faster than mine, even with a couple mods. The 8 owners congratulate each other for running mid 14's. There's turbo rsx's running 11's now and n/a ones running low 13's / high 12's. These are cold, hard facts.

And yes I do have respect for the 8! I like the car, but its just not that fast.

jdmlover79

i had rsx type-s be4 i bought my G35 coupe 6spd!
my best time for my rsx type-s was 15.4 sec (1/4 miles but it was at LACR, it is above sea lvl by 1300 fit)
so if you caculate at sea lvl it came out to be 14.9 sec yeah 14.9 sec that was my first run ever (i only drove manual for 2 years now)
i saw couple of rx-8 up there and they were happy with 15.5
average ran 15.7 sec

after i put my i/h/e and tires (not a racing header)
it ran 15.0 sec 1/4 at LACR

if you only count straight racing rx-8 is much slower than rsx type-s

also i raced couple of rx-8 on the street with my rsx type-s 1st gear from the stop rx-8 always jump ahead by like fender and i start pulling on him end of 2nd and 3rd i am ahead of rx-8 by 1/2 car length and keep pulling.

rsx type-s is quike little car ! i love them !

kcruboy ! nice car you have there! budy



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i don't think rx-8 even have 238 hp
i think it is around 220~230 hp