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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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RX8 Tranny in an RX7

Big disscusion on the 7 board about an 8 tranny in a 1st gen 7. It would be great to have the 6 speed, but there seems to be some disagreement whether or not the 8's tranny is strong enough. Anybody have any comments? Quite a few people seem to have HEARD that there is problems with this transmision. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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There is much talk that it is not as strong as the ones in the FC Turbo or FD. But to be specific as to how much power it can handle, I can't answer that. As compared to a transmission in an SA/FB, I would think the RX-8's is strong than those. But I may be off on that also.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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I can't truly say the RX-8's transmission is weak, but I will say it may have a hard time handling power compared to the R-series transmissions (TII, FD). If you want a 6-speed, invest in a bulletproof JZA80 Supra transmission. I hear they can handle insane amounts of power. Look at all the 800+ rwhp MKIV's.

As a side note, Charles Hill managed to install a 50+ shot nitrous system on his RX-8. So far, his transmission has held up quite well. Perhaps there is some strength in this gearbox.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shelleys_man_06
I can't truly say the RX-8's transmission is weak, but I will say it may have a hard time handling power compared to the R-series transmissions (TII, FD). If you want a 6-speed, invest in a bulletproof JZA80 Supra transmission. I hear they can handle insane amounts of power. Look at all the 800+ rwhp MKIV's.

As a side note, Charles Hill managed to install a 50+ shot nitrous system on his RX-8. So far, his transmission has held up quite well. Perhaps there is some strength in this gearbox.
A first gen RX-7 would have quite a bit less weight though wouldn't it? That would mean less stress on the transmission. If it's not enough though, I'd go with this:

http://www.jericoperformance.com/4.html
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Haha. Jerico. Don't forget about G-Force.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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My tranny is bathing in Redline MT90, and my clutch is now operating via the MS stainless steel cable - all I can say is what a difference. This tranny is strong, it just needs a taller 6th.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Why a taller 6th?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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A "taller" gear, meaning that the rate of increase in engine speed vs vehicle velocity is higher than a "shorter" gear. The result is that the taller gear will pull harder, but will reach maximum engine RPM at a lower output shaft (wheel) RPM than a shorter gear. Neither is better or worse, taller gears accelerate better, shorter gears give you a better top end speed. I don't want to cruise at 145, I want to get there fast.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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...anyways.

don't forget that the 13B-MSP is about twice as strong as even the best running 12A.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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I don't have a 12a in mine. It is a GSL-SE, 13b 6 port. I must say that even with it streetported and a header with a straight pipe I don't think it will make enough power to where the tranny will break. At least in my way of thinking. I may be wrong though. Any thoughts?
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wakeech
...anyways.

don't forget that the 13B-MSP is about twice as strong as even the best running 12A.

The 13B-MSP has twice the HP, but not twice the TQ and thats what hurts transmissions. More like 1.5x the TQ at best?
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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Yes but mine is not a 13B-MSP. Torque is 130lbs ft 135 hp. After the build it would be more like 180 lbs ft and 210 hp est.
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