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Imabnormal 07-17-2005 05:36 AM

RX8 or G35 help :\
 
Hello everyone this is my first post but I have been reading these boards for about two months now religiously. I realise you all love your 8's but I hope you can help me with my situation from an objective stand point. I am nineteen years old and have been out on my own since I was eighteen. I have worked and horded what money I could since sixteen. Been driving a Saturn SC2 but it sucks and I'm ready to move up. I absolutely love the RX8. A friend of mine drives one and he has been awsome enough to let me take it out about three times now. I LOVE IT but I need a car to get to work and college five days a week. Minimum of about 45 miles a day on the car. Over the past two weeks I was sure there would be a new 8 parked in my driveway within the month but now I'm having doubts. From reading these boards the 8 might be too much of a headache with my already incredibly busy schedule. With all the maintenace required, constant fill-ups due to the low gas mileage, etc. The G35 has been a low second choice since I started looking but it's edging its way up. I am just unsure...and could use some help. If you guys were in my position and money was not a concern (have enough saved to pay 50% down on whatever I buy will finance the rest no problem, qualify for s-plan and vpp through Infinity). Wich ever I go for would be fully loaded so the price isn't far off of each other.Which would you go for? Would you stick with the 8? Appreciate any insight you guys can give me on the subject.

-Kit

P.S. I know it makes some of you guys sick to see a 19 year old buying a car like this but I'd rather eat ramen 7 days a week and drive a nice car than spend my money responsibly :D

cgrx 07-17-2005 06:00 AM

I love the G35 COUPE

kmg1186 07-17-2005 06:49 AM

If you're planning on getting an 05 then most of those technical issues shouldn't be a concern. The constant fill-ups is a bit overblown. My car before the 8 was an Acura Integra and I was getting great mileage. The 8 is of course worse than that 4 cylinder but remember this is a sports car and buying some gas is expected. But ~20mpg isn't too bad in my book.

As far as driving the car every day, my car is a daily driver. It goes where I go every day. It's great stuff and will satisfy your wants completely -- given you aren't all about straightline performance and know how to work the gearbox.

Btw, I bought the car when I was 18. And yeah, some older guys on here get a little ticked off by that, but as long as you are mature about everything than they won't hate. :rolleyes: I just like to always remember this is a car all about class and finesse, not about raw horsepower living life a quarter mile at a time. I am completely positive that you will be extremely satisfied with the 8. Go for it.

p.s. If you end up getting the G35 however, I'm sure you'll be just as happy as both are great cars.

VikingDJ 07-17-2005 07:04 AM

From an objective point of view, this is a difficult choice. The G35 is a sweet car, and so is the RX8. No one can really make decision for you, but you really have to check out both in detail, and you'll know what you prefer more. My suggestion is to look at other cars as well, to make sure you have narrowed it down to these two. If you want that kick in pants feeling, then the G35 is the way to go. The RX8 is more of a drivers car IMO, but it does lack in the power department. If you want that instant power, then the RX8 is not the right choice. Personally, I feel both cars are a bad choice, since you are commuting a lot, and will be loading miles on whichever car you choose. They will both cost you in the long run to drive and maintain as a daily driver that you put lots of mile son. Both are gas guzzlers, but of course the G35 is considerably more powerful, and the RX8 is considerably more nimble. I have a feeling you will be happy with either car, but get ready for lots of maintanence and gas either way. Is there any other car you have looked at? The biggest mistake you can make is to buy an RX8, only to find you want more power. You'll lose out badly on resale, because depreciation on RX8 is pretty high. However, you can make most of that back due to the great deals offered on the RX8.
It's hard for me to imagine someone not loving the RX8, except for power hungry people, who put performance first. I think you will love the car, and as far as headaches, that risk is there in either of these cars. If lack of torque and less hp doesn't bother you, then I'd say go for RX8. If you want that power just by stepping on gas pedal, then go for the G35. Either way, I don't think you can go wrong. Good luck!!

TODreamer 07-17-2005 07:16 AM

Go drive both cars and see what you think then.

But ultimately IMHO ... I could get into a big comparison of the two but I really dont think I need to. If you are concerned about the maintenance of the RX8 being a potential hassle to you, It probably will be a hassle to you indeed if you were to get it...If your gut is trying to tell you something its probably right.. and who needs to pay 30 odd Gs for hassle?

I'd be inclined to tell you to just go get the G35 as it seems like a safer purchase for you. Both are fantastic cars but the G is a little better on gas and more hands off which seems to be a biggie for you.

bxb40 07-17-2005 07:24 AM

I check those same two cars before getting the RX8 (so you know which one won me over). You did not mention, but if you get an automatic, go with G35c. However, if you get the manual, get the RX8. That power difference does not reflect in any way on daily driving. Just yesterday my buddie's stock MT RX-8 hold to an G35c with mods on highway (but you need to know how to really work those gears to stay at peak power). The power and weight differences, plus gear ratios, tend to cancel each other. What does still make a difference is handling. The RX-8 is better. It is also more nimble, easier to drive, quieter (you'll commute a lot, it will matter), ride is smoother and has more room inside (fits 4 adults nicely, the G35c is tight in the back). Insurance will be less for RX-8 too (4 door). You will need a little more gas though. Tires cannot be rotated on G35c front to rear due to size diff. Both come with summer tires, so you might want to change those according to your local seasons. I assume you like the looks and finishes of both cars, so no comment there. But you know that to other drivers and pedestrians, the RX8 looks more... exotic :)
Hope this helps - good luck and enjoy either car. They are both really nice....

PS due to a recent recall on RX-8, you might not be able to get one next month.... an extra point for G35c :)

cgrx 07-17-2005 07:31 AM

check out your insurance rates on the two as well

TODreamer 07-17-2005 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by cgrx
check out your insurance rates on the two as well

There will definitely be a significant difference in insurance...

comparing a more expensive, more powerful, two door luxury car vs a cheaper, less powerful, smaller displacemnt engine car

Bigdog6060 07-17-2005 07:45 PM

This is interesting topic, my friend and i just graduated from college. I ended up getting a rx-8 and he got a loaded used g35c. Both manual, from what i can tell of course i like the rx-8 better its just different and i like different. When you guys talk about maintenance i dont understand??? putting a little oil in it once a month is a problem is that what you guys are refering 2?

Sigma 07-17-2005 07:51 PM


From reading these boards the 8 might be too much of a headache with my already incredibly busy schedule. With all the maintenace required, constant fill-ups due to the low gas mileage, etc. The G35 has been a low second choice since I started looking but it's edging its way up. I am just unsure...and could use some help.
Well, you might as well start by addressing the shortcoming you see with the RX-8.

Personally I don't consider the RX-8 as requiring any more maintenance than any other car. Maybe a tad bit more attentiveness, but nothing that requires much thought or effort. Most people aren't burning any more oil than a piston engine burns in the same amount of time.

Gas mileage -- well, it seems to depend on how lucky you are at getting a good one from the factory. All the flashes seem to have done enough to bring mileage up to decent numbers. Either way, the difference between the RX-8 and G35 is generally not that much. At least two publications have averaged almost exactly the same mileage between the two in their long-term tests, and I belive it's Edmunds that averaged even less with their G35.

As for pricing, make sure you get the accurate pricing on both. I get both S-Plan and VPP as well, and the difference between an RX-8 and G35 is quite a bit. A Loaded G35 (minus Nav) VPPs at $34,500 and has no rebates. A loaded RX-8 GT (minus nav) S-Plans at $30,200 -- that's a $4,000 difference. The RX-8 also has $1000 in rebates now ($2,000 if you lease) and that will likely go up next month to even more. You're talking about an Off-The-Lot difference in price of a good $6,000.

Figuring that you put $15,000 down (which I don't recommend doing but if that's what you want to do) and 4.9% financing, the payment on the G35 is $420/month. The payment on the RX-8 is $300/month.

As for the overall choice, definitely drive them both. But if you truly have your heart set on an RX-8 you are very likely to get buyer's remorse if you end up with something else unless you are very sure that the G35 is what you really want, not what you settled on for a small mileage increase.

TODreamer 07-17-2005 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bigdog6060
When you guys talk about maintenance i dont understand??? putting a little oil in it once a month is a problem is that what you guys are refering 2?

Well, theres that and other antics of the Rotary engine one should be mindful of... Some people simply don't want to deal with it...... and others don't mind

PaulieWalnuts 07-17-2005 07:59 PM

You're not giving much to work with here. It depends on which is better for you. My final two choices were the G35 and RX-8. The G35 is a sporty luxury coupe and the 8 is more of a sports car IMO. I love both but only the 8 had the capabilites I needed to justify buying.

As far as higher maintenance goes, I really think this is overblown. I average 20 mpg (260-280 miles per tank), need to add a quart every 4,000 miles and have had zero problems so far. I'm pretty sure the G35 will get about the same gas average mileage.

So which one would I go for again? The 8 has been a great car and the more I drive it, the more I like it. So if I had no constraints and could pick either, I'd still probably go with the 8. It's a great car.

Bigdog6060 07-17-2005 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by TODreamer
Well, theres that and other antics of the Rotary engine one should be mindful of... Some people simply don't want to deal with it...... and others don't mind


Oh yeah the flooding issue.... oh its just sucks so bad have to take the car for a quick lap around the block and makes me :) every time.

\\Konig\\ 07-17-2005 09:59 PM

from my experience in an auto 2005 G35, it feels MUCH less sportier than the rx8. The interior seems heavily leaned towards luxury, unlike the rx8's interior which is tight, compact, and makes you feel like your actually in a sports car.

Turning in the G35 IMO requires much more effort than the rx8. I find it hard to adjust to the g35's heavy steering wheel.

I would pick the RX8 over the G35, simply because of its looks, how it handles/feels, and because of it's engine. I've had my 2005 for some time now (+6 months) with no problems whatsoever.

tazzydnc 07-17-2005 11:28 PM

Both cars are great. I think the rx8 is more practical with the 4 doors and more room in the backseats, plus its cheaper (I dunno how much you are willing to spend but the 8 can be had for much less). As far as performance goes both again are great. The g35 is a bit faster, the 8 handles a bit better. If you want a torque monster its hard to beat the g35, if you want a car that can take the curves in a glide go with the 8. Honestly I dont think you can go wrong either way though.

mahuna 07-17-2005 11:48 PM

those were my two choices as well, i just got my 8 a month ago and love it. the G35 is definitly just as nice of a car but there is just way to many of them on the road. you cant even spit your gum out the window without it bouncing off the hood of a G35 befor it hits the ground. both great cars, just ones not as comon as the other and that tiped the scale for me, but hay....thats just me. i have no doubt you`ll be happy with either one you pick

mahuna 07-17-2005 11:54 PM

whats the flooding issue, ove only had my 8 a mounth,is there something i should look out for?

Imabnormal 07-18-2005 12:50 AM

From continued reading on the two cars I have calmed down a bit about the decision. I'm going to go drive the cars one after the other this week and hopefully it will help me decide. Its just the thought of dropping 30k+ on a car and finding out I didnt get what I wanted after six months has been freakin me out a little lately. It's pretty much a one shot deal because whatever I get I'll be stuck with for the next five years minimum. Appreciate all your input on this and I guess it will just come down to what I decide. Leanin toward the 8 though :D

Ol1i3x 07-18-2005 02:14 AM

my brother has a g35 coupe and the gas milieage isnt exactly awesome either. most of the time he gets about 16.6 mpg (says on the navigation). im not sure what people get on the 8 tho

Rotary Rasp 07-18-2005 02:37 AM

Lets not forget 9,000+ RPM! :eek::D

spork 07-18-2005 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by mahuna
whats the flooding issue, ove only had my 8 a mounth,is there something i should look out for?

Basically a flooded engine = a dead engine. You can try some techniques to get your engine running again but sometimes it'll require a tow to the dealership and them fixing it (and replacing your spark plugs).

This CAN happen when you shut your engine off cold. The new flashes should've mostly eliminated the problem but you can still potentially have this happen to you. If your engine is warmed up (check your temp needle) then your engine will not flood, even if you turn it on and off again immediately.

Just avoid turning off your engine when it's still cold if possible. Or if you have to shut it off cold, it's recommended you rev the engine to 3K rpm and shut off the engine while doing so.

This and the extra oil use is the added maintenence that some people don't want to put up with. But before you freak out...

I learned how to drive stick on my RX-8. That means countless stalls while the engine was cold. I'm talking like at least 20 times where I stalled when the engine wasn't warmed up yet. I never had my car flood on me. I think I almost did once though, but it started up after a few more cranks (though it did get me worried since I stalled in the left turn lane and stalled long enough to miss that light).

As for the oil thing... unless you're pushing your car excessively hard, you should have to put in more oil every 1000-2000 miles. In fact I only added oil twice and I'm up to 9000 miles. I've also had 2 oil changes though and each time the dealership over filled the oil. :O


my brother has a g35 coupe and the gas milieage isnt exactly awesome either. most of the time he gets about 16.6 mpg (says on the navigation). im not sure what people get on the 8 tho
I used to get about 15mpg mostly city and like 16.5 mixed. But after adding a few gas saving techniques to my driving I get like 17-18 mixed (like 30% freeway). I get around 19mpg when I do more freeway (ie like 70%). I've never broken the 20mpg barrier but my last tank was 19.9mpg. :)

grvmchne 07-20-2005 04:12 PM

A buddy of mine has the G-35 and he was quite impressed with the 8, as I am with the 35. We both agreed that the 35 is a little heavier feeling and strangely that the interior feels a little cheaper. But the 35 has some serious strong points with it...in particular it has better torque. I personally like the 8 better because of the ease of the back seats and the rotor. It also feels very nimble, quick acceleration (not mind blowing but quick) yet even though it is lighter it still feels solid and safe. As far as 0-60, I think the 8 is a little faster according to some tests

Outlaws eXtreme 07-20-2005 04:19 PM

I own both, and they are both great cars. The 8 is more fun to drive only because it feels more spirited on turns and corners. The G35 is definitely more powerful, brute force even. Both rides pretty well. If I had to say a negative thing about the G is that the interior is somewhat tacky... plasticy looking. The 8's negatives have already been mentioned. Both gas milage aren't that great, but the G does get slightly better.

At 19 years old, either car is a good deal.

Aseras 07-21-2005 08:20 AM

that was my dliemma as well and I settled on the rx8. The g35 just didn't tip the scales inall the categoies like the rx8 did. the rx8 was a nearly perfect balance, was cheaper and had lower insurance costs. Plus it looks so sexy :)

Outlaws eXtreme 07-21-2005 12:47 PM

To defend the 'sexiness' of the G35, it can look pretty dang sexy too. It'll just cost you more that's all. :)

NgoRX8 07-21-2005 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
It'll just cost you more that's all.
Yah, because you have to make it sexy. :D

Slick8 07-22-2005 12:48 AM

Deciding between the two was a difficult decision, the last two contenders were the G35c and RX-8. I test drove the G35c, 350Z, WRX STi, EVO, 330ci, M3, Z4, S4, TT, and R32. Out of all these cars, it seemed like the G35c and RX-8 were the only cars that had the greater balance of performance, reliability, value, daily driver, style and design. The german cars are just ridiculously priced for a depreciating asset especially when the japanese cars these days are serious competition, and the EVO/WRX just too ricey though balls-out-amazing.

When I was shopping for the the RX-8 and G35c, the G35c was priced about $10,000 dollars more than the RX-8 I bought. I test drove the G35c and didn't get the wow/fun/smile factor feeling that I got for the RX-8. The G35 definitely has the edge with "status" thing and the looks are more traditional, though a sharp looking car. The RX-8 interior and exterior design are much more modern, as is the engineering precision in the chassis/engine. The G is more luxury and the 8 is more sport.

When looking at the aftermarket for the RX-8, though small, it is growing and is priced better than the G35c/350Z. If you do get the RX-8, you MUST add the necessary mods to the RX-8 to take full advantage of this conservatively tuned coupe which will add a few grand to the total: flywheel, CZ piggyback ECU/canscan/laptop, high flow cat, and REVi intake/ram air, and front/rear sways.

In this tuned form you will outpace a G35 or 350Z, but only if you understand how to drive the RX-8 and have good driving skills.

In the end, I took home the RX-8 and never regretted it.

...the $10,000 difference went toward a 50" grand wega HDTV and a kick arse home theater system, pre-owned ducati 748, the above mods, and some shares of ebay before they split. :D

bedrock83 07-22-2005 03:40 AM

I test drove a g35 coupe two days ago, it doesnt compare. Even my girlfriend who loves that car(the g35) said that it felt a lot slower. So although the power may be there where is it??? Besides nothing compares to the styling of an 8 unless you plan to spend xxx,xxx dollars.

crossbow 07-22-2005 07:27 AM

Btw...even if you don't like the looks of the evo/sti...you know you can change that right? If you like the way the car drives, handles, and acts, get it. Then just reverse body kit them. Just like you can "rice out" other cars, you can "de rice" the sti/evo. There are some pretty damn clean evo/sti's running around, without wings, hood scoops, and 5000 ducts in the front bumpers.

playdoh43 07-22-2005 01:52 PM

Ok, I am a 2005 G35 coupe 6spd owner here. Just got it couple of weeks ago. I like it better overall compared to the rx8 because its got 298hp and still handles great with those wide 19 inch wheels and potenza performance tires. Not to mention its the newest generation of the legendary SKYLINE in Japan so its got a lot of legacy. So I ended up choosing the G35 because its more refined and luxurious and have better performance. The G35 is more like a more powerful BMW 3 series than anything like the RX8. Rx8 is usually crossed shopped with the 350z and s2000.

However, I hope you understand that G35 is also in a different class in terms of price. It took me months of shopping to find one not loaded top to bottom with options and premium pakadges. The only option I got is a sunroof. And I got a pretty good deal on it as I searched in Md, Va, Pa, De, DC, and NJ. Still the out of the door price after taxes and tags ended up between $35-36k. Thats a lot more than what youd expect to pay on a base rx8 6spd which shouldnt break 30k. Also keep in mind that 95% of G35s in dealerships are loaded with options, so normally a G35 coupe 6spd goes for 35-37k before taxes and tags, and close to $40k after all is said and done. :eek: . On top of that, if you are getting an automatic, then you can easily get a good price on one if you bargain well. If you want a 6spd manual though... its a lot tougher. Around where Ive searched, you pretty much cant get the car at or below invoice. the 6 spd is still backordered in many states. Insurance is also crazy for this car and im 23 years old, I expect your insurance to easily cost above $2000 a year! ohh did I mention the tires are about $270 a pop?

Im not trying to scared the crap out of ya with these numbers :p, just want to put you into perspective how much it cost to get a G35. Rx8 should be much cheaper
and still provide you with a lot of refinement and good looks.

good luck on your purchase, you cant go wrong with either cars. just be responsible and make sure you can afford it, so it dosnt get taken away from ya by force later on ;) If you can afford it, id say SKYLINE all the way :), but im obviously a lil baised.

shaolin 07-22-2005 07:16 PM

Hey there the G35 is no skyline. The G35 is a variant of the 350Z. The skyline has been a riceboy's dream for sometime, but historically the Skyline is just a heavy RWD sedan and coupe line. There have been various trims, but the GT-R, which is the "legendary" skyline that you speak of utilizes an active AWD system dubbed "ATESSA" which stands for Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All Electronic Torque Split. The closest current G35 to that is a G35x, which is still a stretch. Furthermore, the Skyline has always been a completely seperately designed car from the Z/Fairlady Z.

The 300ZX/Fairlady Z of the late eighties and early nineties was offered in two basic packages. One being a strict 2 seater (with a convertible option) and the other being a 2+2. This my uninformed friend, is what your new G35 is really the next iteration of. I understand that in Japan, Nissan calls the current G35 a "skyline" but you have to understand the "history" or "legacy" if you're going to make claim to it. The Skyline has NEVER, EVER platform shared with any other car in Nissan's line up. It decended from the original GT-R in the early 70's which was a limited production car, dedicated to the then Emperor of Japan. Not only that, but both the G35 and 350Z, as well as the Altima's version of the VQ35 series engine are all in reality RENAULT engines.

Your car may masquerade as a "skyline" in some markets, but in most skyline dedicated circles and nissan enthusiast minds, the car really is no skyline by any far stretch of the imagination. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, if you consider this bad news. I'm no fan of the fat pig, riceboy dream the skyline is. But I do think the G35c is a very, very nice car. The "gentleman's Z."

\\Konig\\ 07-22-2005 07:57 PM

I would never consider the G35 as the skyline's predecessor. That would suck.

shaolin 07-22-2005 08:00 PM

You mean successor?

playdoh43 07-25-2005 09:41 AM

"Hey there the G35 is no skyline." is a very ignorant and narrow minded comment IMO. How do you know I was refering to the GT-R? not all skylines are GT-Rs, a skyline is still a skyline. and the 350z is based on the v35 skyline/g35 design, not the other way around. GT-R is the highest trim of the skyline. no one ever claimed that the g35, aka skyline 350GT in JDM is a skyline GT-R :)

Sharing platform and Engine with the 350z dosnt take anything away from the skyline legacy. At least i dont think it takes anything away from the Corvette legacy to share platform and engines with Caddy CTS-V, nor does it take anything away from Ferraris to share platform and engines with Messeratis. You're entittled to your own oppinion, but I certainly dont think platform sharing takes away anything from a good car.

The new 2007 GT-R based on the G35 design will have twin turboed VQ32DETT or VQ35DETT engine making 450-500hp and cost 60-70k. Having a Renault engine as you claimed (even though its co-engineered by Nissan), will not take anything away from it and keeping it from becoming the Porche 911 turbo fighter that Nissan intends it to be and continue the dominance of the GT-R badge.

That dosnt mean all the other versions of skylines are no longer skylines. Im affraid youre the one confused about what a skyline really is buddy and not understand the 50 years of Skyline "history and legacy" before you made your claim about it. The skyline line debuted in 1955 before its manufacturer Prince, was merged with Datsun/Nissan. Prince is a division of Nissan, and the entire SKYLINE lineup is dedicated to the then Emperor of Japan, Crown Prince Hirohita. This occured well before there were a GT-R version.

The SKYLINE officially became a performance car at the 2000GT (S 54 series) iteration in 1964 powered by a naturally asperated 2.0 liter inline 6. It finished 2nd in its first race, the 2nd GP of Japan in 1964 and almost beat the victorious Porsche 904GTS, which was a pure race car. Skylines has since then became one of the most popular track cars in Asia and in the world well before the GT-R version debuted. None-GT-R skylines are raced all over the world for decades and you can find many G35s on race tracks today.

The ENTIRE Skyline line has always been associated with performance, not just the GT-R. The g35 is a great performer at 298hp and almost 50/50 weight balance like a mid engined car coupled with 19 inch potenza tires provides it with great handling that out-performs the R32 Skyline GT-Rs. I never said the G35 is a GT-R, you just seems to assume that only GT-Rs can be considered skylines due to your own warped and uninformed view of what a Skyline is. :p

In conclusion, A G35 coupe/SKYLINE 350GT is to a SKYLINE GT-R, what a base Corvette is to a Corvette Z06. The GT and GT-R are trim levels of the Skyline. And most "skyline dedicated circles and nissan enthusiasts" knows this fact. and would never confuse a G35 with a GT-R :) but unlike you we all know the legacy of Skyline. I also agree that the g35 is a very nice car :) and a gentlemen's Z. :p

SlowLude 07-25-2005 03:20 PM

The G35 is a damn sexy car, but it is more expensive and you really can't seat anyone in the back older than 10 years. You can't negotiate on the price and the dealers that we have here are stuck up snooty muthas. It's fast, but for some reason, it feels like you're driving a sedan. Its fairly common here, so its not all that special. I put a MS kit on my 8 and I haven't seen another around here yet! So worth it!!

playdoh43 07-25-2005 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by SlowLude
The G35 is a damn sexy car, but it is more expensive and you really can't seat anyone in the back older than 10 years. You can't negotiate on the price and the dealers that we have here are stuck up snooty muthas. It's fast, but for some reason, it feels like you're driving a sedan. Its fairly common here, so its not all that special. I put a MS kit on my 8 and I haven't seen another around here yet! So worth it!!

I agree, G35 have a real linear and smooth powerband, and its torquey at just about any RPM. Rx8 feels more sporty and nimble despite being slower. Rx8 is a nice medium between the crazy gokarts like Evo, Sti and S2000 vs. the utility of luxury sport coupes like BMW 3 series and G35s.

Morgan 07-25-2005 05:57 PM

ok...i'm not reading any crap posted before me..i'm just throwing in my 2 cents.

I have an RX8 and the boyfriend has a G35-so recently i've been spending a decent amount of time in both. Now granted, his IS TT-but i really love it. I was looking to buy one before the 8 but too impacient. Now i really wish i had just waited.

I know this is my rx8 forumss and all...but i REALLY love the G. I love it to death from the inside out...just make sure to get black or white!!

crossbow 07-25-2005 06:05 PM

Hope your bf has money on the side for an engine rebuild...the shop nearby has two halves.

On the left is all the 350z's and G35's getting twin turbos put in...on the right is all the previous 350z's and g35's with twin turbo's getting their engines pulled, as the rods snapped, and now they have to spend about 10,000 USD on a bottom end buildup.

The shop LOVES it.

pelucidor 07-25-2005 10:05 PM

I had one of the first batch of RX-8s for a few months - wife complained back seats too claustrophobic for the baby. So then I got a G35 Sedan (with 6MT, sports suspension/wheels/summer tires, aero kit, NAV, and every other possible option).

RX-8 is lithe, nimble, subtle. G35 is heavy, fast, brutish.

RX-8 has MUCH better Bose stereo than the craptacular Bose in the G35.

RX-8 has slightly better NAV (bigger screen, better colours) than G35 (Birds Eye view a waste of time).

RX-8 is more fun, but G35 (sedan) is much more practical in terms of space.

RX-8 has wonderful and light steering. The G35 has wonderful and heavier steering.

RX-8 has superb brakes, and the G35 has just as good brakes (although a little more touchy for the first 2000 miles).

RX-8 has wonderful pinpoint handling that just encourages you to try that same corner a little faster each time, the G35 is more ponderous and heavy and less encouraging for an average driver like myself but also very accurate. Better drivers might find they both have similar limits.

If getting auto then G35 is probably a better bet - little performance difference to the 6MT.

If getting 6MT then I would go for RX-8 - much better gearchange and clutch.
Also there is a known problem with the 6MT in the G35 - grinding in 5th or 6th gear and then eventual failure to enter gear. My transmission had to be replaced at 6k miles. New transmission failing again at a further 14k miles - Infiniti does not know the cause and just replaces everything. I think only about 3% or less of G35s with 6MT have this problem so by no means common.

RX-8 with 6MT got about 17mpg over 3500 miles, whereas G35 with 6MT gets about 22mpg over 20k miles (but I drive more calmly nowadays than when I had my RX-8).

Material quality between the two vehicles is about the same, although 2005 model G35 has improved a bit from my 2004 (real metal surfaces etc).

Ownership effort: I am the laziest person in the world when it comes to looking after cars. G35 wins here because I don't do anything except fill it with petrol every 380 miles and check tire pressures every few weeks. However the RX-8 is not much worse - fill with petrol every 280 miles, check tire pressures and oil every few weeks (every 1000 miles).

RX-8 has 4 year/50k mile warranty and cheap servicing costs. G35 has 4 year/60k mile warranty and slightly more expensive servicing costs with free loaner cars and other perks as needed.




But all the above is pointless - just test drive them in quick sucession and you will know immediately which you prefer.

If you are not ecstatic the first time you hear that ultra-smooth turbine zoom to 9000rpm and then the gentle warning chime before the rev limiter cuts in at 9500rpm then the rotary is not for you...

Others might be amazed at the huge low down torque of the G35 and it's deep vocal V6, and how easily it pulls in any gear (3rd will smoothly handle 10-80mph).

jefferrari 07-25-2005 10:17 PM

I always question myself, what if I get a G35 or 350z or S2000? Sometime I compained about stuff in the 8. But probably would have complained if I buy other cars. Maybe the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

Because I need (or I thought I need) a back seat, so I narrowed down to G35 or 8. I am geting the base 8, so money was an issue (or I thought it would be better if I have some spare money in my pocket).

I guess I am just lost in the car buying game. 3 months after I bought my 8, I am still thinking about this. Imagine how much time I spent before I the purchase. (Sorry boss!)

I think you can try to have the dealers quote to you, see which one you are happier. I mean, both are great cars, so you will not make a wrong choice. So dealership service level and discount levels will also make your purchase happy.

playdoh43 07-25-2005 10:40 PM

Its normal, I do the same thing. I always wonder what if I bought this used Z06 with 36k miles on it or used E46 M3 from my friends sister's fiance who had to get rid of it to get a FX 35 now that hes getting married. (sucks to be him :p). Dosnt stop me from enjoying my G though, I still smile every time I get in it. But you always think what if?... :)

silverx8 07-25-2005 11:06 PM

The RX8 is different. The Wankel has a unique feel, just like a Porsche opposed 6 cylinder, or a riced out subaru, or a Ferrari V12. The gearbox is short and precise, the engine is front mid. All this adds up to an experience like a fine wine-unique.

There may never be another Wankel powered sports car, and this may be the last chance to feel what it is like.

Rotaries like to drink oil, but I never heard of a timing belt change, or burned valves, snapped con rods, blown head gaskets, leaky valve covers, etc...

Smoke Honda 07-25-2005 11:36 PM

I just wonder how many of these topics are on the G35 forum? I think you should post on both the forums and take from both of them. Being a RX-8 forum, of course the people here are a little bias you know. I mean, these people on this forum did pass thru the G35 and bought an 8. The same is true with the G35 forum. Only a handfull of people on this forum knows the G35 well enough to say positive and the real negative about it.
Here's what I propose, a comparison between a Nissan 350Z, G35 coupe, and the RX-8. All of which is in my backyard right now. I think I'm going to start taking pictures and showing the stuff that the automotive forums don't show you to get the answers. Tire wear, warrenty, material, economics, space, comfort, reliability, ect. The comparisions is going to be a little lopsided because my 8 only have a apperance package, but it'll have to make due. I'm going to have to sway away from curtain things to make it an even field. I have a pretty good amount of time right now to do this and I'll post pictures and things when I done. Shouldn't take longer then a week.
You could make your decision then.

shaolin 07-26-2005 02:11 PM

Say what you will, but skylines have never impressed me. Maybe the GT-R's. Like I said, they've always been mediocre coupes and sedans. And they have ALWAYS been designed seperately from the Z.

No matter how you try to stamp it, and no matter how much useless info you post, it doesn't change the fact that your car is platform shared with the Z. No skyline before the current "skyline" ever platform shared with the Z. And the comment about the Corvette and the Caddy is nil. You danced all around the subject, and called me out saying I don't know the difference of a GT-R and regular run of the mill skyline, but it seems you have comprehension problems. RE-READ my post. Your long useless post proved no point what so ever and provided no solid reason as to why I should even consider your car a "skyline" when it's just a heavier Z. I could post all kinds of historic info on why the RX-7 was a great car, what kind of heritage it came from, etc. etc. etc. but it doesn't prove anything saying the RX-8 claims any stake to that heritage. Accept it. Your G35 (although a very nice car) doesn't stake any claim to any of the "skyline heritage" you are so fanatical about. It's just a bigger Z. I hope in 2007 when they release the GT-R they give it what it deserves and make it its own design.

r55790 07-26-2005 02:33 PM

G35... Had one before I got the Rx8. Traded it in for the 8 as well... bad mistake. G35 is made better, service is better, and they always fix the problem or try to instead of trying to get around the issue.

Rx8 is a lot of fun the drive and turns heads... but I can truly say it's the first and last Mazda I will ever by... it's just plain horrible.

playdoh43 07-26-2005 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by shaolin
Say what you will, but skylines have never impressed me. Maybe the GT-R's. Like I said, they've always been mediocre coupes and sedans. And they have ALWAYS been designed seperately from the Z.

No matter how you try to stamp it, and no matter how much useless info you post, it doesn't change the fact that your car is platform shared with the Z. No skyline before the current "skyline" ever platform shared with the Z. And the comment about the Corvette and the Caddy is nil. You danced all around the subject, and called me out saying I don't know the difference of a GT-R and regular run of the mill skyline, but it seems you have comprehension problems. RE-READ my post. Your long useless post proved no point what so ever and provided no solid reason as to why I should even consider your car a "skyline" when it's just a heavier Z. I could post all kinds of historic info on why the RX-7 was a great car, what kind of heritage it came from, etc. etc. etc. but it doesn't prove anything saying the RX-8 claims any stake to that heritage. Accept it. Your G35 (although a very nice car) doesn't stake any claim to any of the "skyline heritage" you are so fanatical about. It's just a bigger Z. I hope in 2007 when they release the GT-R they give it what it deserves and make it its own design.


I never clinged to the GT-R's herritage, Im clinging to Skyline's own rich heritage. GT-Rs are not the only Skylines that has a racing heritage you know?. I never said the G35 is a skyline GT-R lol. so No, I dont have to accept it. because your argument is weak and ignorant. youre the one that said skyline sucks and its mediocre blah blah (which is fine with me, but if it sux, then why are you so passionate about it?), when you talk about my car isnt a skyline as if only GT-Rs are worthy of the skyline name plate. Your so called mediocre non-GT-R skyline coupes and sedans have raced all over the world since the 1950s.

welcome to the 21st century, buddy where platform sharing is the future. There is no shame in platform sharing. So youre saying my car is not a skyline because it shares platform with 350Z? lol. I guess you didnt know that Nissan wanted to save money and didnt want to develop a seperate platform for 350z, so they decided to use the skyline platform. The platform was orignally disgned for the skyline, not the 350z. Thats why 350z a pretty heavey for a sports car because its based on a coupe/sedan platform, but its ok since it allows Nissan to sell 350Z at a much lower price point. :)

Ive never heard of anyone besides you that says a car no longer deserves its badge because it shares platform now? Whao you have a real strong argument there about why its not a "mediocre" skyline!!! lol I guess to you, Ferraris are no longer Ferraris since they started sharing platform with Messerati? NICE LOGIC THERE!! lol I never danced around anything, I said theres nothing wrong with platform sharing. I guess you think you know better than Nissan what a skyline is huh? And you called me out first, and posted that LOOOOONG and boring useless info and got all passionate. but its ok, where would the world be without haters :).

khtm 07-26-2005 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by playdoh43
I agree, G35 have a real linear and smooth powerband, and its torquey at just about any RPM. Rx8 feels more sporty and nimble despite being slower. Rx8 is a nice medium between the crazy gokarts like Evo, Sti and S2000 vs. the utility of luxury sport coupes like BMW 3 series and G35s.

Yes, and RX-8s are not known for this at all. And they definitely don't have a more linear powerband than G35s...that would be ludicrous! :rolleyes:

Reminds me of the Nissan salesman who told me the 350z could handle WAY better than my car.

playdoh43 07-26-2005 03:33 PM

lol 350z and G35 dosnt handle better than rx8. happy? :). IMO S2k handles the best, then rx8, then 350z, then G35 is the worst out of the 4. But all 4 can still handle very well. And relatively speaking, rx8 does have a less linear powerband, because there isnt a lot of meat down low, but have tons of power up top. IMO :p Other things RX8 is better than G35 in terms of fun factor inludes ability to REV much higher, light weight, all contributing to a sportier feel :)

khtm 07-26-2005 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by playdoh43
lol 350z and G35 dosnt handle better than rx8. happy? :). IMO S2k handles the best, then rx8, then 350z, then G35 is the worst out of the 4. But all 4 can still handle very well. And relatively speaking, rx8 does have a less linear powerband, because there isnt a lot of meat down low, but have tons of power up top.

Relatively? Have you seen a graph of the RX-8 powerband? It's almost perfectly linear. Wow...where do you get this stuff from. Do you even know what "relative" means?

I've driven a G35C and there's no way in hell, either scientifically or relative to the gravitational pull of the moon, the elevation, or the temperature outside, that it has a more linear powerband than an RX-8.

playdoh43 07-26-2005 03:45 PM

ok ok, you got me :), I told you what i meant, Its wrong to describe it by using "linear powerband" i was just trying to express that relatively speaking, G35 has good torque at just about any RPM, while RX8 isnt meaty down low and has more power up top. happy this time? :) this contribute to G35 feelings less sporty compared to RX8. sorry for the lack of.. accurate term to describe the situation.


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